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Old 12-06-2007, 11:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: Gregg G

The Nutcracker and the Intruder were both designed by Jim Kirkland. He designed the Nutcracker before the Intruder. I would guess that the Intruder is probably a derivitive of the Nutcracker.j
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I'm pretty sure the Nutcracker was after the Intruder. It was one of the last of Jim's design if not the last as I remember. Had some of the same features of the Intruder (diamond stab) but larger and longer and with anhedral stab (at least the versions I had)
I have some old pictures somewhere and if I can locate one I'll post it here.
Old 12-06-2007, 11:53 AM
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What is the Kaos? Who makes it? Where can I get it? Is it a kit or arf?

(Thank you)
Old 12-06-2007, 01:58 PM
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1. Vertigo II. Also any Phoenix 5-8. Very similar in layout and performance.

2. Patricia.

3. T-2A.

4. Dirty Birdy.

Old 12-06-2007, 03:03 PM
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1. Brushfire
2. Summit II
3. Super Curare
Old 12-07-2007, 08:19 AM
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Enough of all these American designs! Here's a selection from my side of the Atlantic -

SPA -

Moonglow - Mike Birch
Upset 2 - Chris Olsen
Marabu - Bruno Giezedanner

BPA -

Thunder Panzer - Rich Brand
Superstar 2 - Wolfgang Matt
Lightning 3 - David Hardaker


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Old 12-07-2007, 08:41 AM
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Marabu was a great-looking airplane. One of the early retract-equipped models as I recall. Bruno was (is) a great designer and builder.
Old 12-07-2007, 09:26 AM
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Bruno was (is) a great designer and builder
"was" i'm afraid WEDJ. Bruno was killed in an air crash many years ago. His brother Emil, another excellent flier, is still around.

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Old 12-07-2007, 09:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: RFJ

Bruno was (is) a great designer and builder
"was" i'm afraid WEDJ. Bruno was killed in an air crash many years ago. His brother Emil, another excellent flier, is still around.

Ray
I'm sorry to hear about that. From '90 to about 2000 I was out of the hobby.
Old 12-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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I always wondered what happened to Bruno. Very innovative designer! He flew the first (and probably only) variable sweep wing pattern ship and possibly the first inverted, rear exhaust (OS .61VF) design at 2 different FAI F3A WC events. One of the designs was the Scorpion, if memory serves. The other I have forgotten. Both came after the Marabu.
Was he flying at the time of the accident?
-Will Bartlett
Old 12-07-2007, 11:49 AM
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Of the good classic SPA legal designs, I'd have to claim the Compensator was my favorite

But I will acknowlege that Blue Angel as one heck of an airplane !

From a performance standpoint, the Tipo 750 was a real workhorse.

I remember when I brought my first EU1-A to the field the first time and people said "Man, that is a BIG plane !". Nothing ever matched the slow rolls I stretched out with that aircraft. At the the same time, nothing ever made me cringe and pray as much as this plane when trying to get to the top of a square loop with half rolls [&:]

The Maya was pretty darn awesome --- That was the last of my "pattern" planes before pattern pretty much turned into giant scale. I think Dean has something there...... full enclosed FIRE 90LX and pipe ..... a basic 11x8 up front .... push a bit over 15,500 rpm or so. I bet it would move rather nicely set up for full ballistic mode [8D]



Old 12-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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Rich Brand's Tiger Panzer. I've never flown one. I just think it looks cool.

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Old 12-07-2007, 06:33 PM
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RFJ, Any chance you have pictures of the planes you mentioned?
Old 12-09-2007, 11:42 PM
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I find the Curare to be the one I liked best of all, followed by any of Don Lowe's Phoenix models.

The brown and white one is from the seventies. Copied Dave Brown's paint scheme, the black, orange and white one I currently use for SPA and will most likely fly in Huntsville at their next BPA event.

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Old 12-10-2007, 02:51 PM
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Hi Ed- Beautiful Curare Sir! Is that a 4-stroke .91 in the nose?? If so, how well does it fly compared to a strong .61/pipe combo? Thanks, Jeff
Old 12-10-2007, 04:41 PM
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Hi Jeff,

In my humble opinion, it is just as fast and just maybe faster than some of the Compensators, Tiger Tails and such. The Phoenix 5 would give it a run for it's money. Most folks who see the SPA sleek planes fly can't believe their speed, wheels down and all. It is a OS-91, 24% Cool Power and a 13.5 x 9 competition prop from APC.

It really flies great and will slow roll from county line to county line as the old saying goes!

Best
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:52 AM
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RFJ, Any chance you have pictures of the planes you mentioned?
Here are some rather poor shots of the models I nominated.

Top row (L-R) Lightning, Marabu, Moonglow, Super Star
Bottom Row (L-R) Thunder Panzer, Upset

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Old 12-11-2007, 06:13 PM
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El Gringo, Compensator, Atlas, Revenger, T2-A, and Saturn. Mmm... exquisite!
Old 12-14-2007, 04:33 PM
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OK. I like the Aurora also, but check this one out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=002

Holy Cow!!!!!!

DAVE

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