Scoop! Too early to release information.
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
Scoop! SPA legal?
SPA legal?
Rusty- I understand SPA to allow airplanes that have retractable landing gear be flown but the gear cannot be retracted. Airplanes may be powered by an O.S./Saito 4 cycle (not a YS...Wilmaaaa!!!!) with up to .91 displacement, any 2-cycle .61 or less and no tuned pipes or power creating exhaust components and no electric powered models.
The "Scoop" does have retracts, may be powered by a .61 glow, an "E" powered equivalent and is designed for tri-gear retracts. The model is capable of flying all of the manuevers described on the attached document with great precision.
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SPA legal?
Rusty- I understand SPA to allow airplanes that have retractable landing gear be flown but the gear cannot be retracted. Airplanes may be powered by an O.S./Saito 4 cycle (not a YS...Wilmaaaa!!!!) with up to .91 displacement, any 2-cycle .61 or less and no tuned pipes or power creating exhaust components and no electric powered models.
The "Scoop" does have retracts, may be powered by a .61 glow, an "E" powered equivalent and is designed for tri-gear retracts. The model is capable of flying all of the manuevers described on the attached document with great precision.
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
BUT.... was the original design flown-published etc. prior to 1976? If YES, can the design be flown with fixed gear ( why have the weight of retract mechanisms if you can't pull up the gear )? If NO, to the 1976 question, then it doesn't matter.
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
ORIGINAL: BERUSTY
Rusty wins a flight on Frak's new Hangar 9 phoenix 7...the Dirty Birdy would be a terrific subject to be offered...this scoop is NOT a Dirty Birdy or a US design.
Rusty wins a flight on Frak's new Hangar 9 phoenix 7...the Dirty Birdy would be a terrific subject to be offered...this scoop is NOT a Dirty Birdy or a US design.
Question is, are we talking about a classic here or is this scoop forum mis-posted. I want to think that Rusty wouldn't make such a mistake. If it is a classic and it's not a US design (i.e, either European or Japanese), well, that narrows things down some!
Now, if a Dirty Birdy were to be offered, what exactly would make it terrific? Just the availability of a glass and foam kit or would it need to be finished and covered/painted? This is where we cross into the nebulous ARF zone. What exactly is making H9's P7 offering terrific - I think it has to do with the fact that it is a classic pattern design AND it is an ARF, otherwise there wouldn't be anything unusual about the offering since classic pattern kits (at least reproductions) abound, especially the built-up frame US designs.
What we are most lacking are the Japanese classic designs - those are designs that in my view would constitute a terrific offering; whether built-up, glass and foam or ARF's. In a nutshell, what is that we covet? Blue Angels, Aurora's, Atlanta's and Cosmos'. The rest is available for whoever is interested in building kits.
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Hi,
I would love to see a Hanno Prettner classic plane as ARF. With all his victories at F3A World Championships and great designs I'm sure many would be interested to buy one such ARF. Super Sicroly (although not WC with that model), Curare, Magic, Calypso, Supra Fly, Supra Star, Mystic. Or among US designs I would love to see a Mach 1 ARF, Compensator ARFor maybe a Dr. Jekyll ARF model (WC 1991).
/Bo
I would love to see a Hanno Prettner classic plane as ARF. With all his victories at F3A World Championships and great designs I'm sure many would be interested to buy one such ARF. Super Sicroly (although not WC with that model), Curare, Magic, Calypso, Supra Fly, Supra Star, Mystic. Or among US designs I would love to see a Mach 1 ARF, Compensator ARFor maybe a Dr. Jekyll ARF model (WC 1991).
/Bo
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
What about if I reel off every pattern name I can think of, that way I'm sure to win, er, whatever this is...
right?
right?
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
Well,
given it's not a US design and it's red, white and blue, that might help some. Although on second thought, there is still a wide range of classics using those colors:
[ul][*] Atlas[*] Arrow[*] Magic[*] Calypso[*] Blue Angel[*] Skymaster
[/ul]
And then probably a number of scale aerobatic "TOC" models.
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given it's not a US design and it's red, white and blue, that might help some. Although on second thought, there is still a wide range of classics using those colors:
[ul][*] Atlas[*] Arrow[*] Magic[*] Calypso[*] Blue Angel[*] Skymaster
[/ul]
And then probably a number of scale aerobatic "TOC" models.
David.
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
Scoop! What is it not?
Define "terrific"?
Rusty- I define terrific to include the fundamental design, collaboration with the orignal designer, construction techniques of reproduction, original flying qualities of model, color scheme, quality of execution, value for the $ and is capable of attracting modelers to the classic space due to the universal appeal of the airplane.
Will it be a TOC type of model?
Rusty- No. I have made a number of appeals to various large and small manufacturers with no interest. The elves have been recruited and involved to offer serious modelers high quality semi kits to work from.
Colors?
Rusty- I would not use the red, white and blue colors as a clue.
There are dozens of potential models. I will post the (8) detailed photos once I am given permission. There will be other "Scoops" to share in the future.
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Define "terrific"?
Rusty- I define terrific to include the fundamental design, collaboration with the orignal designer, construction techniques of reproduction, original flying qualities of model, color scheme, quality of execution, value for the $ and is capable of attracting modelers to the classic space due to the universal appeal of the airplane.
Will it be a TOC type of model?
Rusty- No. I have made a number of appeals to various large and small manufacturers with no interest. The elves have been recruited and involved to offer serious modelers high quality semi kits to work from.
Colors?
Rusty- I would not use the red, white and blue colors as a clue.
There are dozens of potential models. I will post the (8) detailed photos once I am given permission. There will be other "Scoops" to share in the future.
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RE: Scoop! Too early to release information.
It's hard to imagine the parameters just described as fitting with a Prettner collaboration - I just don't think he's interested in that kind of involvement at this point. Matt, on the other hand, not that hard to imagine. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a company such as PA would do something with the Matt's although it's also hard to imagine Matt being that interested in a collaboration with classics. Current F3A? All together a different story.
This has to be an Asian venture with an Asian design, but, "universal appeal of the airplane" - I can't think of any non US design that has universal appeal other than the Curare. Perhaps the Aurora. If red, white and blue are part of the colour scheme, then even the Aurora would qualify while the Curare wouldn't.
Yes, I've reached my conclusion - we're talking about an Aurora. Naruke is alive and well and definitely active.
Either this means that Dan has managed to involve "ARF" manufacturing or it has happened independently in the East.
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This has to be an Asian venture with an Asian design, but, "universal appeal of the airplane" - I can't think of any non US design that has universal appeal other than the Curare. Perhaps the Aurora. If red, white and blue are part of the colour scheme, then even the Aurora would qualify while the Curare wouldn't.
Yes, I've reached my conclusion - we're talking about an Aurora. Naruke is alive and well and definitely active.
Either this means that Dan has managed to involve "ARF" manufacturing or it has happened independently in the East.
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I suppose it could be a Curare even if the colors areblue, white, red (andyellow). Probably not many remember that Hanno Prettner first Curare had those colors at World Championship 1975. At the World Championship1977 that Hanno Prettner won with a Curare the colors was orange, white, black (and yellow). I have a bad quality picture of Hanno Prettnerfirst blue Curare below, and a better quality picture of the later WC model orange Curare. I also throw in an old picture of my own Curare I had back 1977-1978.
/Bo
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ORIGINAL: dhal22
let's see, the blue angel has been mentioned, the atlanta, the aurora, etc, etc. what about a curare?
let's see, the blue angel has been mentioned, the atlanta, the aurora, etc, etc. what about a curare?
do i win a prize?
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ORIGINAL: FSFLYER
It's a Curare ARF. He posted it on here and removed it for some reason. Then decided reinvent himself into the ''Riddler''
It's a Curare ARF. He posted it on here and removed it for some reason. Then decided reinvent himself into the ''Riddler''
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ORIGINAL: BERUSTY
the fundamental design, collaboration with the orignal designer, construction techniques of reproduction, original flying qualities of model, color scheme, quality of execution, value for the $ and is capable of attracting modelers to the classic space due to the universal appeal of the airplane.
the fundamental design, collaboration with the orignal designer, construction techniques of reproduction, original flying qualities of model, color scheme, quality of execution, value for the $ and is capable of attracting modelers to the classic space due to the universal appeal of the airplane.