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stg61abc 08-09-2010 11:50 AM

Mach 1 - looking for original article or infos
 
Hi to all.
I´m a great fanatic abouth the Mach 1 classic patten plane.
I´m looking for some time now, trying to obtain the magazine article about this wonderful aircaft.
If possible I will ask for some of our fellows, maybe the magazine collectors to send me, oc course, if possible the article from this magnific airplane.
I have some pics from the Mach one, but I always to want to know a little more about its history, design and development.
To my knowledege, it was designed by Norm Page, its correct?
Many thanks by the help

Carlo[ ;)]

edh13 08-09-2010 12:38 PM

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I know there are some pictures in the Trenton RC Flyersdata base.
http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/patternm.htm

The home page:
http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/pattern1.htm
You've come to the right place. If anyone can help, these guys will.

Eric


AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken 08-09-2010 02:39 PM

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I have the original magazine contstruction article. I'll see if I can make a pdf out of it.

stg61abc 08-09-2010 02:46 PM

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Many thanks to Eric and to Jeff ;)
Carlo

Bruce Underwood 08-09-2010 05:50 PM

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This fellow has most ALL pattern "repos", etc. I've gotten several from him myself including the Daddy Rabbit, Tiger Tail,
and several others including the El Tigre. Hope this is a big help to you. Best Wishes,
Bruce Underwood SPA L15
Guntersville, AL
bunderwo@bellsouth.net




Plans for SPA-eligible Designs

This is a list of designs eligible for SPA that are available as magazine-size photocopies of the plans and, in most cases, the article as well.

Some of them are not on the SPA approved list, but the necessary documentation is provided to support an application for them to be approved.

I have put this list together from my collection of old magazines, and was amazed at how many there were, even though I don't have several that are listed by SPA.

The copies are a good way of checking out what designs look like. You can also enlarge the plans so they are fully usable, by the usual photo-enlargement or scanning.

I can send a copy of any plan by either airmail or by pdf attachment to an email, for US$10. Please send currency only, because checks cannot be cleared from New Zealand.

Address: Wayne Cartwright Email: waynecartwright@wave.co.nz
P O Box 946
Pukekohe
Auckland
New Zealand

Note that the Blue Angel is available only as a full size plan. The price of this is US$30 including airmail.


1965 Thru 1975

Model Designer Country Magazine Comments

Andromeda Pagni Italy RCM&E
Atlas Matt Leichtenstein RCM&E World Champion 1975
Avanti Grassi USA RCM
Banshee Martin USA FM
Bar-Fli Kraft USA MAN
Beatnik Sonnheim/Love USA RCM
Belaire Bell USA RCM
Blue Angel Yoshioka/Kato Japan kit plans World Champ 1973; full size plans
Cajun Queen Penrod USA AAM
Cardinal Santich USA AAM
Configurator Buso USA AAM Developed from Intruder
Corsair Maloney USA MAN
Crusader Brooke USA MAN
Cutlass Coleman USA MAN
Cutlass Supreme Coleman USA kit plans
Daddy Rabbit I Whitley USA MAN
Dee Bee Brisighella USA AAM
Deb-N-Air USA RCM
DFH 15 Lundstrom Sweden RCM&E World Champs entrant
Dirty Birdy Bridi USA RCM
Don Juan II Flynn USA RCM Great appearance
Dragon Fli Kraft USA AAM Successor to Slik Fli
Eclipse Gierke USA RCS Unique mono-wheel
Ekko III Fang-Chiun Hong Kong MAN
El Cochino Morse USA AAM
El Gringo White USA RCM
El Tigre Donohue USA AAM
Equaliser Foster England RCM&E British competition winner
Eyeball II Schroeder USA MAN
Fakir Mottin USA AAM Winner of design competition
Firebird Hitchcox Canada RCM&E
Fire Fli Kraft USA RCM&E Successor to Dragon Fli
Friend Ship Guthridge USA AAM Great appearance
Hammerhead Fielding USA RCM
Hot Pants Nelson USA AAM
Intruder Kirkland USA MAN
Kaos Bridi USA RCM
King Altair Husak USA RCM
Kompromis Bauerheim Germany RCM&E Third 1967 World Champs
Kwik Fli II Kraft USA RCM
Kwik Fli III Kraft USA MAN World Champion 1967XXXXXXX
Mach I Page USA MAN
Magic Dragon Greer USA RCM
Marabu Giezendanner Switzerland RCM&E World Champion 1967
Mark 8 Foster USA FM
Miss Norway Totland Norway RCM
Moonglow Birch England RM British Nats winner
Morris HF Pagni Italy RCM
Mr. Ed IV Brothers USA RCM
Mr. Slick Husak USA RCM
Mura Wooley USA RCM
Nemesis Baisden USA MAN
Northern Eagle Gierke USA FM
Novi Arrow Brink South Africa AAM World Champs entrant
Omen Wilke USA RCM Large - 92" span
Panzer D20 Brand South Africa MAN
Patriot Foster USA RCM
Patriot II Foster USA FM
Pegasus Wilmot USA RCM
Phantom 1 Klineyoung USA RCM
Phoenix 5 Lowe USA AAM
Pisces Hale USA AAM
Plane Jane Kohler USA MAN
Prairie Duster Smith USA AAM
Raven Gierke USA FM Large - 84" wingspan
Robin Dunham USA MAN
Sequel Weber USA AAM
Scimitar Foster USA AAM
Shrike Violett USA AAM
Skeeter USA RCM
Slik Fli Kraft USA RCM&E Successor to Kwik Fli
Spectre Hammant England RM
Sting Ray Hawk USA RCM
Striker Russell England RCM&E
Styx Marot France RCM&E
Sun Fli 3 Bridi USA RCM
Sun Fli 4 Bridi USA RCM
Super Kaos Bridi USA RCM
Super Sicroly II Prettner Austria MAN Second 1973 World Champs
Superstar Matt Leichtenstein RCM&E
Superstar II Matt Leichtenstein RCM&E World Champion 1971
Swinger Jones England RM
Tarman Blose USA RCM
Texas Twister USA RCM
Thunder Panzer Bland South Africa RCM
Tiger Panzer Bland South Africa RCM
Tiger Tail Chidgey USA RCM&E
Tornado Ballreich USA RCM
Twister Spreng USA RCM&E
Undone Hebestreit USA AAM
Upset Olsen England RCM
Upset II Olsen England RCM&E World Champs entrant
Vertigo Van den Berg England RM
Vespa Brisighella USA AAM
Viper Brisighella USA AAM
Vulcan Hempel USA RCM
Warlock Wilmot USA AAM
Warlord Wilmot USA AAM
Warrior Hammant England RM
Yankee Noll USA AAM


bem 08-09-2010 06:03 PM

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Hi,

Model Airplane News June 1973 Mach 1 construction article in PDF below.

/Bo

bem 08-09-2010 06:06 PM

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Hi,

Model Airplane News July 1973 "Field and Bench" Midwest Mach 1.
Picture of kit box external and internal of unbuilt Midwest Mach 1 (mine).

/Bo</p>

bem 08-09-2010 06:24 PM

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Hi,

If You plan to build a Mach 1 today you can scratch build from Model Airplane News Mach 1 plan or from Midwest plan. Eureka Aircraft sell "short kit" of Mach 1 and You can also try to find a Midwest kit on the famous auction site or perhaps find a sell ad here at RCU (sooner or later an unbuilt kit will appear). I had a Mach 1 myself in the 1970th with Rossi 60 FI RC (side exhaust)and later I had a Rossi 61 FI RC ABC (rear exhaust) in it. Carl Goldberg retracts and EK-logictrol super pro 7 ch radio. Flew very well. I entered Swedish F3A championship with it in summer 1978 when I was 16 years old. Very fun and I learned a lot from the older and more experienced flyers.

/Bo

mithrandir 08-09-2010 06:40 PM

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I think a Mach I is how a pattern plane should look!!!

nice

McLeodAviation 08-09-2010 11:52 PM

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One of my favorites!

stg61abc 08-10-2010 07:49 AM

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Guys, thanks a lot to all by the excellent pics ant articles, and I bet that they will be useful to all clasic pattern fans too.:)
Tomorrow I will post some nice pics from the Mach 1 that I have, they are from a Italian version from the Mach 1.
Thanks again
Carlo

Bax 08-10-2010 10:11 AM

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Here's mine from the '70's.

Free Bird 08-10-2010 11:40 AM

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Probably been said before - but that sure looks like Dan Aykroyd holding that Mach 1!

FB

stg61abc 08-10-2010 11:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: bem

Hi,

If You plan to build a Mach 1 today you can scratch build from Model Airplane News Mach 1 plan or from Midwest plan. Eureka Aircraft sell ''short kit'' of Mach 1 and You can also try to find a Midwest kit on the famous auction site or perhaps find a sell ad here at RCU (sooner or later an unbuilt kit will appear). I had a Mach 1 myself in the 1970th with Rossi 60 FI RC (side exhaust) and later I had a Rossi 61 FI RC ABC (rear exhaust) in it. Carl Goldberg retracts and EK-logictrol super pro 7 ch radio. Flew very well. I entered Swedish F3A championship with it in summer 1978 when I was 16 years old. Very fun and I learned a lot from the older and more experienced flyers.

/Bo
Hello Bo. Thanks by sharing these nice infos. I´m thinking to build one myself in a near future, I have two sixty one options: ST 61 K ABC or OS 61 SF.
I ask you if the plane its easy to fly, and if its is all that fast
thanks and regards
Carlo

bem 08-10-2010 04:51 PM

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Hi Carlo,

I can tell You from what plane a transitioned before I flew a Mach 1 for the first time (in spring 1977). It was a low wing plane "Fly-Boy" (made by Belgian company Svenson that do not exist anymore). Fly-Boy was a low wing plane 150 cm (59 inch) in wingspan and I had a Veco 61 in it. Rather cute model and flew reasonably good (picture of Fly-Boy plane below). Anyway after I was finished flying Fly-Boy it was time for Mach 1 and it was first powered bya Rossi 60 FI RC ABC side exhaust with pipe (also had inflight adjustable needle controled by a servo). After a year a changed engine to a Rossi 61 FI RC ABC rear exhaust with pipe through the canopy. The speed was very good then.I have 3 photos of my Mach 1 from 1977 below.

You asked if the plane is easy to fly - Yes it is, anyone that can handle a low wing plane without problem can handle a Mach 1 also. Depending what engine is mounted and if retractable landing gear is usedit can be very fast. It is rather fast in landing phase but You will learn to master to take advantage of the rather large wing area to get proper landing attitude similar to what I show in one of the picture below when my Mach 1 is on approach for landing. You can also use the aileron asflaps today with computerised radios that was not available back then to get down landing speed a little.I had many hundreds of flights with my Mach 1 and after a while I could almost land it at my feet even in rather windy conditions. The first person in our model club back then bought a Mach 1 in 1974-75 afterthe Midwest kit came and he had a HP61 F in it (no pipe, just the standard muffler, and no retractable landing gear). It was the best flying plane we had seen to that date in our club. So the rest of uswanted to fly Mach 1 also and we started to build. I built mine in winter 1976. I had larger ailerons on my Mach 1 then was shown on drawing and I also modifed it in 1977 to have coupled elevator and flaps (like a control line). In 1978 I made a lastmodification by sweep down the stab like a Curare and also increased the V-shape of wing a few degrees. I also mounted the Rossi 61 FI RC ABC with rear exhaust. It flew very well with these changes.

/Bo



stg61abc 08-11-2010 07:19 AM

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HI BO, many thanks by sharing these valuable infos with us.
They also encourage me to buid one in a near future :D
Well, I´m attaching some Mach 1 pics that I had in my files. They are from the Italian manufacturer Aviomodelli from Cremona.
The plane is pretty. Please note that the pic from the Mini Mach F is from a 40 version made by the same brand.
The orange one is a version they called Mach 1 F that used a Fiberglass fuse and the white one is the standart Mach 1 (60) that mixed some ABS with wood parts.
Regards
Carlo

Bax 08-11-2010 09:48 AM

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Quote:

ORIGINAL: Free Bird

Probably been said before - but that sure looks like Dan Aykroyd holding that Mach 1!

FB
During the same era, I was also told I looked like Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick! Don't think I looked much like Dan A, though.

JeffH 08-11-2010 09:49 AM

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I really need to finish mine!

NM2K 08-11-2010 12:22 PM

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Quote:

ORIGINAL: Bax


Quote:

ORIGINAL: Free Bird

Probably been said before - but that sure looks like Dan Aykroyd holding that Mach 1!

FB
During the same era, I was also told I looked like Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick! Don't think I looked much like Dan A, though.


I used to be misidentified as Al Dimeola, a great guitarist from NJ. His picture was on a record album and we did look identical, right down to the haircut and the closely clipped beard.

I was a guitarist myself in those days, but no one would ever confuse my playing with Al's superlative licks.


Ed Cregger

Ben Lanterman 08-11-2010 03:06 PM

RE: Mach 1 - looking for original article or infos
 
Hi all,

The Mach I was one of the few airplanes that I built more than one of - three to be truthful. The lines if the airplane seem to look like what I think an airplane should look like. Unfortunately they all crashed due to failures of the radio kind. All were overweight, too much glue and paint. I would love to get one today and put a big electric 60-90 equivalent in it. I have a Quick Fly III that I built about the same time that has seemed to miss out on the troubles and is still flying. But it just doesn't look like the Mach 1 in the air.

Ben

bem 08-11-2010 06:29 PM

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Hi,

It might be interesting to see a little what Mach 1 was able to place in competition when it was one of the hottest F3A planes.
Here are some glimpses what I have found by reading trough some old magazines and a book I have.
Have fun.
I post pictures that are oldest first, then newer.

This post, #1:
Picture from 1972 Masters Tournament. Norm Page placed 1st. Source Model Airplane News (MAN) January 1973.
Pictures from 2nd Annual Southwestern International R/C Championship 1973. Norm Page placed 1st with his Mach 1. Source:MAN May 1973.

/Bo

bem 08-11-2010 06:31 PM

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First ad (I believe) about Mach 1 about it was kitted by Midwest and sold for $49.95. Source: MAN October 1973.

/Bo

bem 08-11-2010 06:37 PM

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NATS1973. Norm Page placed 20th. See image why. Source: MAN November 1973.

/Bo

bem 08-11-2010 06:39 PM

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F3A World Championship11-16 Sept 1973, Goritzia Italy. Norm Page placed 5th. Source MAN January 1974 and RC Modeler Magazine flight traning course Volume II by Ben Strasser and Tom Cone (1974).

/Bo

bem 08-11-2010 06:46 PM

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NATS1974. Norm Page placed 9th with Mach 1. Source MAN December 1974.

/Bo


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