wwoneguy

This is a third party view. I know both,On Your Six,and Megaboat as good friends. Megaboat is one of the nicest guys on the planet. He would give you the shirt off his back,but he is a bit timid to support himself.

Every word [On Your Six] has put in this forum is true about Megaboat's case. On your six has no other motivation then to help our friend get a fare and timely solution to the purchase of the DR-1 from ETM.

To me,knowing Megaboat's case first hand ,and reading others in the forum,ETM's neglect is in communication with his customers.

topspin

I am sure they are very nice guys as I'm sure you probably are also. I just don't understand why on_your_six was saying such terrible things about the owner of Easy Tiger models. Since he never actually bought anything from them he really doesn't have a dog in the fight. I can understand wanting to help a friend but there is a point at which it becomes pedantic to just keep beating the same drum over and over.

Anyway I said my two bits worth so I will respectfully bow out.

John.

CastorTroy2150

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I just got done reading through this thread, it's been some time since I have posted anything, however I have some input...
It seems that a reasonable person would understand the thread originator's reason for posting this to begin with. In my experience, this hobby unlike most, is one of general respect and people helping people. You show up as a new hobbiest, or someone who is just new to a club, and you are met with kindness 99% of the time. Members and fellow hobbiest are ready to help by lending a hand, offering parts for free, and guidance on a unusual level. It seems that this is simply what this thread is about, general help and warning, not unlike any you would recieve on a flying field. TOn your six doesn't need to provide the name of his buddy, its clear that the mixed reviews from this dealer are more negitive than positive. You had good results when buying? Great! However, as fellow hobbiests, we owe it to our friends and fellow builders/flyers to inform them of improper bussiness practices, to help protect each other. It is EXTREMELY unprofessional to not follow up, provide up to date information, realistic delivery times/ delay information, and excellent customer service. IMHO, the climate of this hobby demands it as a general respect remains between us all. This is very important if,as a dealer, you wish to remain successful in this hobby. I am 100% sure On your Six, and the buyer(friend) would have been more understanding should the seller kept them up to date with delays and progress of the order in a timely fashion(as the other members who have had problems would have). Fact remains, none of the people should be demonized for posting problems and improper bussiness procedures from Easy Tiger. I for one am very please that Six and the others have saw fit to inform me, which ultimately may not prevent me from purchasing from ET,but help me make an educated choice when considering purchasing from this company. I for one would like to say thank you, for the information and detailed information and timeline from On Your Six while dealing with the issues. The people lambasting him, give it a break, he obviously posted the plane was recieved. This alone proves he didn't have some uncalled for vendetta againt the buyer, only wanted to hold the seller to a reasonable business standard......that is all,lol

init4fun

I would be really interested to see what proof you have that RC Truth is Curtis' web site ?

And not just some BS "a friend of a friend of a friend told me it is Curtis' site" , , , I want real and actual proof .

Now , and without attacking the person whose "just lookin for the facts , the whole facts , and nothing but the facts" , Present your evidence to support your allegation .

combatpigg

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How would you go about finding out if "RCTRUTH" is a "shill" forum or not..?
I can think of several ways to disguise ownership, you don't need to be too crafty.
The name alone raises "red flags" with my BS detector. Is there a SHORTAGE of "RC TRUTH" in this world..?
I've already got more RC TRUTH than I know what to do with...but if you think you are lacking RC TRUTH, then maybe this forum is where to find it.......??

804

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Take this FWIW, and it may well be nothing,
but a few years ago, I had a little conversation with ET on the old AMA forum.
He said most of his business came from magazine ads and very little from on-line.
He made it pretty clear, in my mind anyway, that he didn't much care what was said
about him in the forums, he was doing just fine thank ya' very much.
I read a few comments by him in that RC Truth, and that, taken with what I just told
you, would lead me to believe you may be doing your friend more harm than good here.

topspin

Well stated and let us not forget thet there are other RC dealers who get far more complaints than ET and yet have lemming like followers who will dive off of the cliff to protect a hobby shop that they don'y even own. It is a strange world but here is my final take. On_your_six, you said what you had to say so now if you really feel that stronly about keeping your fellow RCers from getting ripped off then why not go after the really big time crooks like Hobby King??

I mean if you are truly as altruistic as you say you are.

Chad Veich

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Then why does he bother to go to some lengths to find ways of posting on the various sites where he has been banned? He posted a bunch of adverts over at RC Groups under a number of pseudo-names and even going so far as to tell folks they should hurry up and order before his threads got yanked by the mods.

804

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Don't know, I'm not a psychologist.
I asked him basically the same question, and just relayed his response. Draw your own conclusions.
I would only ask the question, "how well has this tactic worked so far?".
I do hope it works out.

combatpigg

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This thread has had 10,000 views....maybe 1000 "unique" views..? This thread has done some good.
RCU provides all of us with real time consumer advocacy thanks to responsible members who take the time to keep their fellow members informed.
There are countless reputable and totally honest hobby industry peddlers out there who have nothing to fear from the internet forums because they are 100% honest and accountable, even when occasional goofs get made.
Who knows how many "SHEEPLE" types who are too timid, intimidated, etc. to report bad dealings with vendors....for fear of being labeled as "TROLLS" on the interwebs.......?

topspin

Oh you mean like hobbyking.

KiwiKid

That is a rather strange request given that Curtis is all over the site like a rash and "everyone knows it's his site". EasyTiger , Admin and half a dozen sock puppets are all Curtis and you can tell that a whole bunch of threads are just Curtis having a chat with himself

I have no real problem with him or that site (which is quite entertaining) myself. Curtis has some good looking reasonably priced models - see his marketing attempt at RCG alluded to earlier: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0#post23586592

My advice to Curtis would be to specialise is sourcing, merchandising and marketing stock (which he is good at) and hire a Customer Services officer (maybe part-time) to focus on keeping customers advised of delays and reasons etc. For example, I know a bit of background causing the delays to the DR1 delivery that generated this thread. This was a new product and there were some performance and production issues that had to be sorted out causing the delay. The drop-shippping aspect was always a problem too, although Curtis seems to be getting more products in stock now. People are generally understanding if they know what's going on and are kept informed as they often have experience in their own lives of similar situations.

Curtis obviously went to the "Basil Fawlty" school of customer relations and he brings alot of problems on himself un-necessarily, but I believe he recognises this and his business does seem to be going well with a higher degree of open-ness apparent of late with appearances at trade shows and fly ins. As mentioned in this thread, I guess its a case of knowing who you are dealing with and acting accordingly.

It's nice to put a face to a name - is this the gentleman of which we speak??

combatpigg

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If you say so. I've never dealt with them.

init4fun

Ok , So , almost 24 hours have passed since I asked for proof of this statement . So far , Combat pig has responded , KiwiKid has responded , and still no real evidence to prove Curtis is the Admin of RC Truth .

For all you know , I could be the Admin , and none of you would have a clue ! It's easy to toss around guesses and ideas , but lets just keep them at that , cause that's all they are , guesses ....

Now , If anyone else has any SOLID PROOF as to whose really behind RCT , I'm all ears ..............

combatpigg

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RCT isn't even a pimple on RCU's butt...so what difference does it make who actually launched it....??
Might as well spend your time at the landfill counting the flies.
Whoever came up with the name [RC Truth] has an agenda that is pretty transparent. You don't need to be too sharp to be able to see right through that. Like it's some sort of site dedicated to righting all the wrongs that involvement in our perilous hobby subjects us to.....
It looks like the type of RC Forum that would attract your Timothy McVeighs, Ted Kavinskis, David Coureshs and of course your Easy Tiger Groupies........
So, it's nice that there is a special place like that for those who need their minimum daily requirement of the "RC Truth"......
How funny.

init4fun

Wow CP , Great work with the insults !!! Gee , we got ET groupies , The Unibomber , and even went for the lowest of the low , McVeigh ... Are ya sure you couldn't have worked Charles Manson or maybe even Hitler into there too , just for further dramatic effect ? Maybe ya just forgot them . Well , there ya go , I added a couple of more bogeymen for ya to chew on .....

But really , I'm none of those things , Ive never bought from Curtis nor blown up any small third world countries , and I appreciate the fact that this means so much to you as to actually post drivel like you just did with a straight face . Anyway , Someone declared as fact that RCT was Curtis' site , and I believe such statements should be backed up with proof lest they just look like the rest of the useless smoke that so many seem to have the propensity of posting . Facts . Nothing more . No insults , Bogeymen , nor smoke blowin BS . If no one has any proof that RCT is Curtis' site that fact aint gonna disappear no matter how many times ya drag the one asking for proof through the mud of a pigsty of baseless accusations .

Thanks for the laugh

Wildman62

I've  been reading all the threads about Easy Tiger, everything that has been said is right. I ordered an airplane back in 2011 for $425.00 and never received it, I went through all the paperwork to see about getting my money back still nothing. I've e-mail Curtis several time no response.

Sure would like to receive my plane.

knlken

Init4fun if the evidence sat right before your eyes, which it is. You would probably still deny the truth, which happens alot on that pathetic site. It's obvious your not the owner of that site, you don't have admin privileges on the easytigermodels forum that admin (easytiger) copy and pasted to the other site with ip information.

knlken

One thing I find funny, easytiger (admin) is saying all them usernames on that site are me. What's even more funny, as you can see I am not banned from here. On Rcgroups I asked to have my account closed, banned or whatever. I was not literally banned like you were from Rcgroups. Considering my post count here, you can see I'm just a viewer not much of a poster. I really don't care what is said about me, really! I have everything I need, that is all that matters to me.

topspin

Including a good supply of "Li 6.941" on the periodic table of elements?

knlken

How's it going John my good old buddy?lol To answer your question, no, but still working on that one. So I see you say easytiger is a liar and good for you for standing up for yourself! I see your not posting on his site anymore.

topspin

Hey Ken, going just fine. I have not posted on the Easy Tiger forum in over a year so not sure what you mean but if you are saying that the Easy Tiger is the Admin of thruth site then you need to provide some proof or leave it alone. I can say the moon is made from green cheese and Martians live in your basement but without proof it don't mean much, it's just words.

knlken

I'm glad life has been treating you well. As for the evidence of easytiger being the admin of rctruth, I already know you guys have already seen it. When admin from Rctruth did a copy and paste job of a post from the easytiger forum, instead of the ip being showed as logged, the ip address was shown. The only way that can happen is you have to have admin powers on the easytigermodels forum to make this happen. If you or I would copy and paste a post from the easytigermodels forum to the rctruth forum the ip will show as logged. So easytiger got sloppy with his tracks and got busted!

Phil Schwartz

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SWEET!!

init4fun

Hi Ken ,

No sir , I can say in all honesty I did not see the "Great IP slip up" of which you refer . I do think it is fair to ask for proof when someone makes an allegation that is not easily proven and I'm not about to go believing things I read on the internet as God's law fact just because someone "thinks" something or other . I've seen far too many of these "facts" evaporate under the light of close scrutiny . Heck Ken , for all I know , YOU could be the Admin of RCT , staging your "protest" as a cover for your identity ! I know , Highly unlikely , but still remotely possible . Right ?

I will admit , I have no real interest in the identity of the Admin of RCT , Any more than I care to know the name of the owner of "Internet Brands" (the owner of RCU) Is it because the Admin doesn't want you to know his name that you have this burning desire to "out" him ? Does it really mean that much to you who runs some RC site ? What if it wasn't Curtis , but some other RCer you never heard of , would the name really be all that important then ?

You got caught over there using multiple Ids , one of only 3 rules he has . And because you got caught you won't give it up till ya "out" whoever is responsible . Really Ken , havn't you better things to do with your time than waste it on some silly useless Internet crusade , one with no real "end game" to be enjoyed ?

Go fly something , your blood pressure will thank you .....