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Old 12-17-2018, 06:53 PM
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Hi Donny, after trying to learn how to fly on a 1/2 A Pilot ARF in the late 1970s,I say no thanks it is some times very hard to get them to fly right! But my club guys laugh at me because I fly 25 size airplanes and I just got a new wing and fuse for an A-Ray kit that I had cut here 14 years ago. Then last night I found out that the center spar that my friend cut out for me is too short so I had to cut a new one to 1/8 thick by 5/8 wide by 26 inches long on a piece of glass. Hopefully I will have 3 wings and two fuses framed up this week if I get the time
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thanks doesn't matter where you live I can send it...
that's right I cut a old spickler 500 wing embedded CD sheeted vacuum sealed, spickler fuse. Now comes the modifications...

Weighs 15 oz fuse and wing, going to mount a 46 outrunner, 4s lipo, timer, 60. Amp ESC.
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mkjohnston View Post
Hi Donny, after trying to learn how to fly on a 1/2 A Pilot ARF in the late 1970s,I say no thanks it is some times very hard to get them to fly right! But my club guys laugh at me because I fly 25 size airplanes and I just got a new wing and fuse for an A-Ray kit that I had cut here 14 years ago. Then last night I found out that the center spar that my friend cut out for me is too short so I had to cut a new one to 1/8 thick by 5/8 wide by 26 inches long on a piece of glass. Hopefully I will have 3 wings and two fuses framed up this week if I get the time
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I can't imagine using a arf to teach anything. I don't have much success with arf's no matter what size they are. with a few exceptions.

Post some pics of your A-Ray build! and share the fun. I have a 25 sized plan built 3.25 Laser? I thought it wouldn't fly worth a hill of beans but I was shocked, it flew very well right up to the moment the elevator hinges pulled out. no glue, my bad!
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:36 PM
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[QUOTE=donnyman;12486849]I can't imagine using a arf to teach anything. I don't have much success with arf's no matter what size they are. with a few exceptions..../QUOTE]

Oh I don't know, I like the Seagull Boomerang as a four channel trainer. Mine flew very successfully until I failed to take back control quickly enough!

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Old 12-19-2018, 05:46 AM
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Good morning,
I just wanted to say that I have lurked on this thread since its beginning enjoying all the banter and experiences, and now that I turned 50 a few weeks ago, have officially posted to say hello to all you old geezers
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Good morning,
I just wanted to say that I have lurked on this thread since its beginning enjoying all the banter and experiences, and now that I turned 50 a few weeks ago, have officially posted to say hello to all you old geezers
Well good morning to you! and welcome aboard, you could have jumped in at anytime. We are always open to conversation.

Tell us about yourself with some pictures if you got'um.....................................again.. .... WELCOME!
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Telemaster Sales UK;12487015]
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I can't imagine using a arf to teach anything. I don't have much success with arf's no matter what size they are. with a few exceptions..../QUOTE]

Oh I don't know, I like the Seagull Boomerang as a four channel trainer. Mine flew very successfully until I failed to take back control quickly enough!

YA SEE? that's what most of my arf's look like! I have a Goldberg Eagle 2 I built many many moons ago and it is alive and healthy, it flies smoother and better than any arf i've known so no assemble and "flies" for me.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:26 AM
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[QUOTE=donnyman;12487071]
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YA SEE? that's what most of my arf's look like! I have a Goldberg Eagle 2 I built many many moons ago and it is alive and healthy, it flies smoother and better than any arf i've known so no assemble and "flies" for me.
My favourite trainer was a Telemaster 40 (of course,) but the wings fell off while I was demonstrating it to a potential buyer! I've still got the wings.

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Old 12-19-2018, 09:38 AM
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The horizontal stab looks in pretty good shape . Red
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So did he buy it or not?
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Veco Chief Full stunt. Fox Red Head 35 with throttle plate in the exhaust and intake. . U C Full tank of glow. 13 years old. Never flew UC>

School yard virgin with 1 kid holding it. He lets go Plane rolls 18" start to climb into a vertica series of Ss . MOMMA !!!Air borne ALL OVER the sky. One too many uncontrolled loops does it in.

Realized wind up rubber was more doable. Great hobby with vacuum tube G G & rubber powered escapements
I am 81. Fully certified !!
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My crash was very compact. New airplane built and only the engine,radio and tail feathers flew again. I saved the wing to make a mini wing as a reminder. I still haven’t done the mini wing. That was my first crash getting back into RC.


I’m just about finished with my foam cutter. I need to make a fence for it. The wire is adjustable so it is square to the table. I’ve tested the power supply-wire heat setup. If I use 12 volts I’ll have to use a resistor for proper heat on a short wire. This is all experimentation so will see how it works out. Hope to start cutting an airplane soon. I have a long bow for cutting the wing core. Maybe next year. LOL.






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Hi Donny and Fellow old timers. I present to you my fuse of my Andrews A-Ray which my friend cut for me back in 2004. Eddie Taylor at Lazor works cut this out for me and I actually have three wings and and two sets of Tail Feather sets for this airplane. I hope to have this down by the end of this weekend. Some one said it must have been very hard to learn to fly on a Pilot 1/2A ARF and it was extremeley hard to learn.That is why I bought a Sig Kadet and a new 6 channel COX/Airtronics 6 channel and learned how to fly the right way.

this is the left side of the wing

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Old 12-21-2018, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by donnyman View Post
Well good morning to you! and welcome aboard, you could have jumped in at anytime. We are always open to conversation.

Tell us about yourself with some pictures if you got'um.....................................again.. .... WELCOME!
Thanks Donnie,
I've been here on RCU since 2003, and pics of me would probably get me banned I just now reached the age that I am told to grow up, well thats NOT HAPPENING!
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Originally Posted by scottrc View Post
Thanks Donnie,
I've been here on RCU since 2003, and pics of me would probably get me banned I just now reached the age that I am told to grow up, well thats NOT HAPPENING!
My father in-law use to say growing old is mandatory, growing up is discretionary, he refused to grow up! I believe in following his example!
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How can one be on their 2nd childhood if they haven't completed their first?
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Hi GG
Long time since I used that wig wag setup. I loved my first ? Citizenship multi reed bank rc setup. What heavy batteries in the tube receivers ?
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Old 12-21-2018, 05:11 PM
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Hi GG, Long time since I used that wig wag setup. I loved my first ? Citizenship multi reed bank rc setup. What heavy batteries in the tube receivers ?
Here's the 1953 DeBolt 34 inch wingspan Livewire Kitten radio installation (tube / valve):



Here's the battery packs used back then. The 22.5V hearing aid or photo-flash battery was similar to our 9V transistor battery, but about 1/4 inch longer. Used the same connector on top. B+ supply was either 45V or 67.5V for tube / valve excitation. A set of AA pencell batteries for the tube / valve filaments, another for the escapement.
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And they were not even aikeline battery's ether.
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Yes, certainly not alkaline then, they were the old lower capacity carbon-zinc batteries. It was before my time, the single channel Ace R/C Pulse Commander system with Adams magnetic actuator and superheterodyne receiver was much more reliable that I bought in Fall 1972. It was truly proportional rudder if you didn't mind that the rudder was always wagging. Moving the transmitter's rudder stick caused it to pulse to one side more than the other. However, it pulsed fast enough that the plane flew like it was servo operated.

I don't know how long those batteries for the super-regenerative tube/valve receiver was, but one must have been always buying batteries. Also, I could imagine that one was also buying tubes regularly. They were glass and the electrodes and heating filaments inside were fragile, plus you only had a single push button switch that gave full rudder so you had to pulse the rudder for a gentle turn.

It is no wonder that control line was in full vogue.
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Thank you SO MUCH for the posting of GG rudder. I am smiling now. Feels good to see my 12 year old high point of model airplanes.
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You're welcome, cyclops2.

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My favourite trainer was a Telemaster 40 (of course,) but the wings fell off while I was demonstrating it to a potential buyer! I've still got the wings.

Fuselage sacrificed to save the wing. I've done that before, except included the wing, too, so both suffered. Those who boast of never crashing don't fly much.
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Merry Christmas Gentlemen and a Happy and Healthy New Year!

Prosperity is over-rated!

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Merry Christmas Gentlemen and a Happy and Healthy New Year!

Prosperity is over-rated!

Same to you sir and all the guys haunting this thread! Mike
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I am the best builder.

Also the worst pilot.

And to all a good night. More G & T

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