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The retailers chose to ignore the FAA. And they will till the FAA bans selling their product. Only then will they consider fighting them. Though there will be a few exceptions. Wallmart and Amazon will be fighting against our interests, but banning us from flying above 200 feet or so. And they have more than enough money to bribe the FAA. I believe the bribes work better than lawsuits. Unless you bribe the judge. Wait! That's still a bribe! But bribing judges is cheaper.
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The retailers chose to ignore the FAA. And they will till the FAA bans selling their product. Only then will they consider fighting them. Though there will be a few exceptions. Wallmart and Amazon will be fighting against our interests, but banning us from flying above 200 feet or so. And they have more than enough money to bribe the FAA. I believe the bribes work better than lawsuits. Unless you bribe the judge. Wait! That's still a bribe! But bribing judges is cheaper.
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All manufacturers and resellers have a vested financial interest in any regulations that may impede sales of their products.
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Apparently, the tough rhetoric in this thread has worked.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...odel-aircraft/
Way to go, guys! We owe you a lot.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...odel-aircraft/
Way to go, guys! We owe you a lot.
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Read my post! Amazon and Wal Mart want to have a drone delivery system and restrict model airplanes from flying above 200 feet. They were the ones pushing for the registration. They see more millions from drone delivery than from actually selling them.
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Hey All,
I must have missed something... I read the posts here then I went back to post 5 where the site was listed that we should use to register and found this.
Register
My UAS If you own a drone, you must register it with the Federal Aviation Administration's Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) registry. A federal law effective December 21, 2015 requires unmanned aircraft registration, and you are subject to civil and criminal penalties if you do not register.
and your $5 registration fee will be refunded!
Register on December 21, 2015
[h=2]It says nothing about registering anything but drones.....[/h]Did I miss something???
TTYL,
Bruce
I must have missed something... I read the posts here then I went back to post 5 where the site was listed that we should use to register and found this.
Register
My UAS If you own a drone, you must register it with the Federal Aviation Administration's Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) registry. A federal law effective December 21, 2015 requires unmanned aircraft registration, and you are subject to civil and criminal penalties if you do not register.
- Review the UAS Registration FAQs to learn more about the program.
- Read the Aircraft Registration Records System of Records Notice (PDF).
- Read the Registration and Marking Requirements for Small Unmanned Aircraft Interim Final Rule.
- Read the Registration and Marking Requirements for Small Unmanned Aircraft Interim Final Rule Regulatory Evaluation (PDF).
and your $5 registration fee will be refunded!
Register on December 21, 2015
[h=2]It says nothing about registering anything but drones.....[/h]Did I miss something???
TTYL,
Bruce
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Again if the AMA had not embraced the drones, I do not believe that we would be going though this! They could be saying then an now it ain't us doing this, go after the ones that are and leave us be. We did not have all this BS until the drones showed the ugly heads, it's not us doing this! We are not flying out of sight or spying , we just enjoy getting together and making a day out of what we built. AMA should have stayed with what has worked all these years for them, you drone guys could have started your own little drone clubs, boring as they would be, flew one once and thought if my plane where so easy to fly, I wouldn't waste my time, no effort and totally boring!
These drones are flying tripods, camera mounts. People fly them to take pictures, not to experience aviation The AMA wanted them as members. Meanwhile, no one I know who flies camera tripods wants anything to do with the AMA,
The Pollyannas and their rose colored glasses say "so what is 5 buck fee, just pay it and enjoy!" As if 5 buck tax is all that is coming from the FAA what a joke.
The sheeple say "the AMA had no choice, there were no other options"....horse hockey......Many tried to tell the AMA to fight with a different tactic, separate traditional models from drones, I know AMA Hall of Famer Bob Violett has been telling them for YEARS. This is his most recent (published) letter.
http://www.bvmjets.com/Safety/AMA0714-1.pdf
It is one thing to be ineffective when facing a problem, it is quite another to be EXPENSIVE and ineffective. US$1,000,000 for this mess?
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Hey All,
I "technically" flew a drone, of the target type, at Ft Bliss TX in 1970 and someone shot the thing down...lol Imagine that I guess I wasn't much of a pilot back then either...LOL I must wonder where this madness will carry this hobby/habit, that I have loved for so many years. We, all the responsible modelers, get punished cause of the actions of the ones that won't comply to the new ruling anyway.
TTYL,
Bruce
I "technically" flew a drone, of the target type, at Ft Bliss TX in 1970 and someone shot the thing down...lol Imagine that I guess I wasn't much of a pilot back then either...LOL I must wonder where this madness will carry this hobby/habit, that I have loved for so many years. We, all the responsible modelers, get punished cause of the actions of the ones that won't comply to the new ruling anyway.
TTYL,
Bruce
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They should be stopped at all cost. If one of their delivery drones causes damage to a person or property, we'll get some more restrictions on our rc planes, probably drive most of us out of the hobby in the long run.
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
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The retailers chose to ignore the FAA. And they will till the FAA bans selling their product. Only then will they consider fighting them. Though there will be a few exceptions. Wallmart and Amazon will be fighting against our interests, but banning us from flying above 200 feet or so. And they have more than enough money to bribe the FAA. I believe the bribes work better than lawsuits. Unless you bribe the judge. Wait! That's still a bribe! But bribing judges is cheaper.
They should be stopped at all cost. If one of their delivery drones causes damage to a person or property, we'll get some more restrictions on our rc planes, probably drive most of us out of the hobby in the long run.
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
They should be stopped at all cost. If one of their delivery drones causes damage to a person or property, we'll get some more restrictions on our rc planes, probably drive most of us out of the hobby in the long run.
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
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....meanwhile the FAA is about to drop the medical exam requirement for private pilots (3rd class medical). Being a license holder myself, I'd rather make sure any private pilot is in healthy conditions and able to fly safely.
Not sure what to think about this.
Not sure what to think about this.
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Hey All,
Anyone that shops at Wal/CHINA mart deserves what they get !!! I haven't been in one of THOSE sorry stores in about 14+ years and I WILL NEVER go into one again !!! BUT you are free to WASTE your money there and SUPPORT CHINA...lol That's just me...lol
TTYL,
Bruce
Anyone that shops at Wal/CHINA mart deserves what they get !!! I haven't been in one of THOSE sorry stores in about 14+ years and I WILL NEVER go into one again !!! BUT you are free to WASTE your money there and SUPPORT CHINA...lol That's just me...lol
TTYL,
Bruce
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They should be stopped at all cost. If one of their delivery drones causes damage to a person or property, we'll get some more restrictions on our rc planes, probably drive most of us out of the hobby in the long run.
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
It's all fun and games until you regulate it to death, should we bring a lawyer with us when we fly our toy planes?
Btw, Walmart sells rc planes now, just found out. Not just the foam toys. Interesting.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fling-Spor...fwt=popupBlank
Weird to see Walmart selling that stuff, has to be online only (they are trying to compete with Amazon). I've never seen more than a Air Hogs type of plane on a shelf.
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Hey All,
Anyone that shops at Wal/CHINA mart deserves what they get !!! I haven't been in one of THOSE sorry stores in about 14+ years and I WILL NEVER go into one again !!! BUT you are free to WASTE your money there and SUPPORT CHINA...lol That's just me...lol
TTYL,
Bruce
Anyone that shops at Wal/CHINA mart deserves what they get !!! I haven't been in one of THOSE sorry stores in about 14+ years and I WILL NEVER go into one again !!! BUT you are free to WASTE your money there and SUPPORT CHINA...lol That's just me...lol
TTYL,
Bruce
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As I understand it, and I could be wrong, the registration fee can only be paid by credit card. So, even though only name, address and phone number are required to register, they now have a credit card number. Does anyone here think that the FCC does not have enough muscle to go to the credit card companies and pry all the pertinent information about me out of them? And then they refund my five bucks. How very generous of them!!!!!!!!
And yet more right wing anti government hysteria, Did you also note, that should you desire you could use an anonymous prepaid Visa card. Apparently you must also be a ham as I'm sure you intended to say FAA rather than FCC.
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Helimaster,
Common sense tells you that anytime your pvt. information is out there on an unsecured site you are at risk! RIGHT WING HYSTERIA?
You have got to be kidding...........this administration/govt. is not capable of doing basic internet security thats why Hillary set up her own as well as our Sec. of Defense Carter
Look how much they spent to set up a site for Obama Care that failed, Oh wait those folks were personal friends of the Obamas............
Common sense tells you that anytime your pvt. information is out there on an unsecured site you are at risk! RIGHT WING HYSTERIA?
You have got to be kidding...........this administration/govt. is not capable of doing basic internet security thats why Hillary set up her own as well as our Sec. of Defense Carter
Look how much they spent to set up a site for Obama Care that failed, Oh wait those folks were personal friends of the Obamas............