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Old 08-03-2002, 12:53 AM
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Now we have darn near a State or the Art city owned field. A small handful of us work with the city to keep this running smooth. LIke most areas, we have the guys who thought the field was just fine 40 years ago and no changes were ever needed.
* We have 5 pilot boxes since we allow only 5 pilots in the air at a time. Our boxes are 6 ft square, 18inch pole on each corner with that orange safety netting around it. We have been talking of going with chain link fencing in its place. Seems like priorities are gone. The first thing out of peoples mouths are "what if my plane hits it?" The orange netting does okay but in the sun, it dry rots quickly and needs replacing every couple months.
* IMHO the boxes are there to protect the pilot and the hell with the plane.
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Old 08-03-2002, 01:09 AM
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Try a tennis net, they last quit some time and are more forgiving to the plane while still offering protection to the pilot. You are right to assume that it is there for the protection of the pilot!
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Old 08-03-2002, 01:25 AM
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People first! Like the last reply, try another material. You could always use sunscreen on the orange stuff!
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How high would the chain link be?? I got "behind" the chain link at our field with the transmitter pointed down and lost control of a model. The chain link shielded things pretty good!. I raised the tx and regained control and then walked out on the other side of the fence. Everything fine.
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Knee high or aroun 18inches
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Old 08-04-2002, 01:31 PM
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Go with the chain link fence. Also, get rid of the people with the attitudes of why change, it has worked for the last 30 years. Wether or not they realize it, the world is changing, and unless you learn to deal with that change, you are jeopardizing your field and every other one in the area. A club would be better off to refund dues to some of these dinasaurs than jeopardize their flying field.

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They must not be very good pilots if they got to worry about hitting the pilot station.

I vote get rid of the pilots who can't hit the runway.
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Old 08-05-2002, 12:06 AM
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AugieP38,

Lots of new guys have trouble landing as well as taking off. Experienced guys can also get into trouble with gusts and cross winds. The pilot stations with fence are there to protect guys like you and me - flying and watching our planes - and keeping the occasional stray from biting out legs.

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We're to the safety fence part of my field too. So far the orange fence at 4' high running in front of the pilots but not to the sides is the best idea.

We've already had some issues with running off the sides of the field, but the only side we worry about it the one with people behind it. We're going to use 8 or 12 foot fences on the sides of spectator area (probably 8 foot), and that should take care of that issue too.

We feel that enclosing the pilot in chain link would make essentially a dead area if the antenna tip got lower than the fence.

I've also seen the orange fence last for 6 months in >100 degree heat, but we realize that we'll have to replace it eventually. We can still use the poles and then put in something like welded wire fencing which is cheaper than chain link and somewhat easier to install.
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Old 08-05-2002, 07:31 AM
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go to your nearest junk yard and get a bunch of the rectangle]
passenger side air bags , made out of kevlar sould offer protection to both plane and pilot and there free . dont know if the elements will were them out quickly or not but free is worth a try
my friend has a junk yard and is happy to get rid of them because they have no purpose to him and get in there way when they are trying to get out the parts from the dash he can sell
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Old 08-05-2002, 04:53 PM
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Safety is of course or should be the no .1 concern.

SAVE THE PILOT............but you may want to listen a
little bit to the people who have indicated the the field
has been fine for the past 30 years.

If their hasn't been a problem for many years then why
is there a problem now ? Is it because some people who
shouldn't be flying on their own are doing so ? Maybe ?

I've been flying R/C since "72" and yes I've seen many
crashes in one form or another and no one I know that is
in this hobby hasn't totaled several planes. In all cases
a barrier fence was useless. Observation: The most
dangerous item at the airfield is, or seems to be ,pilots
who don't have a clue. They don't fly the plane...the plane
flys them. You can pick'em out ,there always on the flight line
alone because everyone else is hiding under picnic tables.

The most dangerous people usually are the ones who want
the most safety devices...........Why ? This way it's less likely
that "they "will hurt someone else.

Another observation:
At most clubs in my area, it seems that only about 25%
of the membership really use the field and fly often.

There is nothing wrong with that ! BUT

This means that 75% of the people who don't fly make
the rules for the ones that do !

A 4ft barrier ? I suppose it will protect your leg but I would be
more concerned about my head .

Oh YA , just one more thing and I'm done.

Ever notice that it's usually the same people every week
that for one excuse or another always have the problems.
Loose prop, not charged, no spare glo plug,engine won't
run,out of fuel,sloppy repairs,no rubber bands(or old ones
that break) this is where the danger is , don't expect a
barrier to make make up for them.

SAVE THE PILOT AND RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEM
Enough !
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Old 08-05-2002, 06:08 PM
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you might try some of that plastic construction site fence. We use it at our field, works good.
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