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Old 05-29-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default language at the field

Does your club have any rules for type of language allowed at the field?

I am not just talk about profanity but vulgar speech. Even in front of kids, some guys really get carried away.

I'm an adult and some of the conversation I overheard at the field the other day really made me feel uncomfortable and I thought it was way out of place. My son is too young to fly, but when he is old enough I really dont what to subject him to that speech just so we can go out to the field to fly.

Old 05-29-2005, 03:24 PM
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I have a potty mouth when I'm around guys, when a child or a woman is around a little switch in my head switches my potty mouth off. It really does irk me when some guy has to use profane language around kids or women. When it's just guys at the field who cares, except if one of those guys are a man of the cloth.
Old 05-29-2005, 03:26 PM
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Well sometimes when I destroy an aircraft worth 1000's of dollars I may let it fly.

But really, are we going to have speach police now too!

Old 05-29-2005, 04:43 PM
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Its pretty bad everywhere.

Guilty.

However when my son is around, I do find that everyone makes an attempt to do better.
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I too am fluent in "French" but I try watch myself around people who would be uncomfortable with it. The words are going to fly out if you normally use them without you thinking like when I saw somebody hit my wifes dead boat at a race after he had been told to watch out for it. The same words came out of my wifes mouth and mine at the same time!
Old 05-29-2005, 07:06 PM
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WHO THE? WHAT THE? WHY THE?!

Sometimes people are just rude.
Old 05-29-2005, 07:18 PM
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The same words came out of my wifes mouth and mine at the same time!
Y'all musta really been meant for each other. I can cuss with the best of them when circumstances dictate; somehow, "ah, shucks" doesn't convey the true emotion when you bite the big one, or it bites you. But, I agree, it's wise to just glance around quickly before you let it fly, it's as much an example of your self-control as it is good manners.

Personally, my favorite one is ##**@!?<>***#*#@@!!!
Old 05-29-2005, 07:31 PM
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If you don't want your children to hear dirty, foul language be sure you turn off MTV; movies; video games; music videos; rap music; and don't let them hang around friends and schools where they talk like sailors anyway..........
Old 05-29-2005, 07:34 PM
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This isn't something I would push too hard but it is always worth mentioning at a club meeting or something. A simple "watch your mouth in front of the kids" in the club newsletter or meeting would likely be enough to give those capable of thinking of others the fore thought to do so.
Old 05-29-2005, 08:20 PM
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Have you tried speaking to the trashed mouthed members and asking them to calm it down a little when in your presence? To me this would be better than a club enforced rule.

Eric

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Does your club have any rules for type of language allowed at the field?
Old 05-29-2005, 08:25 PM
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We have been clamping down of bad language at the field. We have more women and kids than we ever had and we were asked by a female member to cool it.
Old 05-29-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default RE: language at the field

I think there is a bit of a difference between an "AH %^&" as your airplane makes that crunching sound and the use of a string of obscenities in the course of asking to borrow a glow driver. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer adults who have that switch in their heads that goes "click" in the presence of ladies, kids etc.
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Default RE: language at the field

I'm guilty as anyone--when the guys are around. And even then--I hold my tongue around certain members who don't appreciate such venacular.

But, at the field, it depends on the company in my general vacinity.

I try to always be aware of my surroundings and who's nearby and who's on the other side of the pits.

Couple preachers at our club--and I find it embarrassing when one of the other members spouts off with no regard or sensitivity/respect for the religious fellas.

You get an idea of who you can let loose around and who to hold your tongue around. It's just a matter of being observant of the other members' general personality and being respectful of it.

It bugs me too no end when a guy runs his mouth in front of a lady. It embarrasses me and I've found myself apologizing to someones' wife or girlfriend--on account of some jackass running his foul mouth in front of her.

Just like taxiing out for a take-off. Check the pattern before you taxi up and announce a take-off. Someone coming in for a landing or a deadstick?--kill your engine and keep quiet. Give the guy some breathing room--rather than rattle his cage all the way down to the runway.

Common curtiousy(sp?) and general respect goes a long way with just about anyone.
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CP140:

I think your signature line is funny as-all-get-out!!!!! Thats a good one.[:-]

I wonder how we taste with a nice KC Masterpiece marinade?

That just made my night. My wife is yelling at me to quit laughing--I had back surgery 5 days ago and shes afraid I'm gonna pop a stitch!![&:]
Old 05-30-2005, 07:37 AM
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Default RE: language at the field

i think the american culture is a bit too uptight when it comes to colorful language and where and when it's use is appropriate. here even the average game show or sitcom is full of words that would make y'all turn beet red...but we do know where the line is between simply expressing yourself and lewd conversation


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Old 05-30-2005, 08:16 AM
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i think the american culture is a bit too uptight when it comes to colorful language and where and when it's use is appropriate.
Vulgarity is becoming much more common--everywhere. I hear it in restaurants, shopping malls, grocery stores. I think it makes us sound crass and foolish, but I don't think it's up to a model airplane club to try to change society by enforcing a speech code. (Nor do I think it should be up to the government to police our speech at the malls, either). I wish we as a society would increase our own awareness of how ridiculous we sound and what a waste of time and energy it is to add a "colorful" word between every other word in a sentence.

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Old 05-30-2005, 08:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: rc-sport

I have a potty mouth when I'm around guys, when a child or a woman is around a little switch in my head switches my potty mouth off.
I try not to have a potty mouth, so I don't slip at an inappropriate time.

Here's a true story from work along these lines. A few of us at work were chatting. One of the young women was part of the conversation. One of the guys started to say a potty word, caught himself and then switched to another, less "colorful" word. The young lady caught the change and commented "don't worry, I don't have virgin ears". She immediately followed it up in a proud manner with "I don't have a virgin mouth either". We just stayed silent and watched her face turn red when she realized the second meaning to what she said.
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ORIGINAL: Geistware

We have been clamping down of bad language at the field. We have more women and kids than we ever had and we were asked by a female member to cool it.
It's really sad that it ever got to the point where someone had to ask.
Old 05-30-2005, 08:44 AM
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If you don't like the foul language close your ears. They are just words and words won't hurt you so don't sweat it. Get in someone's face and tell them to stop and most likely the words will hurt.. along with probably something else. If someone tells me to stop swearing I usually have some nice words for them myself.

Honestly, if someone's lettin it fly and you find it offensive - turn the other way. Its not your business. If your kid is with, then explain to him what he heard and TEACH him to ignore it and not to use it.. trust me he will hear it in school anyway and unless you TEACH him that its inappropriate, your kid will still swear - he just won't swear in front of you.. and which is worse?

Some of the most profane, nasty stuff I hear routinely comes out of kids mouths and I am around kids a lot. Believe it or not some 12 year old told me to "F-Off" recently. They also have their own language so even when you think they are not swearing.. they are!

I love those who say they never swear in front of kids. Those of you who think kids don't swear are putting your head in the sand. I was sent home from school in 1st grade for dropping an F-Bomb in front of the teacher. After the teacher washed my mouth out with soap(still allowed in those days) my dad gave me a nice trip to the tool shed and when my ass was nice and tanned, my mom washed my mouth out with soap. Even though I heard the word constantly, I never used it again , at least not in school or in front of adults. Trust me, unless your kid is home schooled, he is hearing it each and every day.

The problem in this world is too many people want to mind each other's business.. or worse yet pass laws to make others conform to their "moral" standards, etc.

I have to laugh at those too, who stop swearing in front of women and children because they have this perception they never swear! Most of the ladies I know, including my own mother, are offended when men stop their conversation or change the subject just because a woman shows up.


What kills me is that the US shields our kids from nudity and swear words, but we have no problem exposing them every day to see death, violence, rape murder, guns, etc on TV. We also think nothing of giving them video games that desensitize them to killing. Guess that's OK, just as long as they don't hear any foul language.

I try to be courteous and not swear period. Unfortunately it usually doesn't work.
It must be the sailor or truck driver genes.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:54 AM
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I don't have a problem with foul language slipping at inopportune times because I don't use profanity. I have developed a vocabulary that is sufficient to express myself without having to add offensive language. There has never been a problem at my club field that I am aware. I have never heard foul language even when planes have gone in. I guess it is just a matter of what is deemed acceptible within different groups of people. Just because the Hollywood elite thinks it is acceptible to use offensive language on TV and in movies does not mean that we as a society have to accept it.
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it is just called good old fashioned manners. if you must use foul language to express yourself, cant you also use good judgement when doing so. i understand kids use foul language too, but where do you think they learned it and where did they learn to use it so freely. we have a few potty mouths where i fly as well. i can see a plane going in and a few words are said, but when the f word is an adjective describing everything to how cold ice cream is to a car wreck and in front of women and children alike, that is where i see the problem to be. we have many people stopping by after church with their families, it is sad when you see the shock on their face when they are watching and hear grown men cursing like a drunk sailer (sorry to slight our fine men of the navy) and over nothing. as for club rules go, i hate to see a rule for foul language in a club,but i guess if you have a person who refuses to show better manners at the insistance of the majority of the members than make a rule. it is a private club and know one forced him to join. barry
Old 05-30-2005, 10:23 AM
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We have a "daytime" language rule in here but there is never a problem with what I type. Most of the posts that I edit are from mostly young-uns that think that they are trying to show some "maturity" by using it.
I have been finding Oprah more offensive than Jerry Springer and other talk shows on TV. It's not the language but the subjects of some of her shows that makes me worry. The commercials aren't any better. I wonder how Mark Martin explained to his son when he was young as to what Viagra was when he got the sponsorship?
When I was a kid, the worst that we used was "Art, Art, cut a fart, blew it all apart", now kids a using a LOT worse talk.
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This is reminiscent of the conversation that I had with my kids when they came off of the School Bus swearing constantly.

First I told them to stop, I didn't appreciate it in the house, second there is a time and a place for that language - this isn't it. If you want to use those words on the bus & at school with your buddies - fine, but not here.

Next; I know all of those words - and a few others that you haven't heard (24 years in the military) - but I don't used them - here.

If you don't stop using them now, you will not realized that you are even using them (doing something wrong) and later in life you will loose jobs and friends because of your foul mouth.

In the heat of the moment if a foul word slips - few will mind. If you cannot have a normal conversation without using obscenities- you have a problem.
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ditto, barry
Old 05-30-2005, 12:28 PM
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I do not think there is much you can do to prohibit such language. It is usually the result of little or no education and/or lack of a working vocabulary by those individuals and most of the more violent offenders are usually to old to educate.


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