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Two year's ago I purchased three things coming into this hobby...(1) an electric Fire Bird...(2) an Avistar trainer with a LA 40 size motor...(3) the Great plane's Real Flight simulator...I flew the Fire Bird the day I got it and sat on the Avistar for two month's...After getting all my permits AMA membership and asking a million question's at our field I went on a buddy box with our President Scott(so I didn't kill anybody)...The next time out I was flying alone... People would tell me how they had never seen anyone do so well and learn so fast...Well I had to tell them all ( I hated to do it) that it was the time I spent on the simulator that pushed me around much of the learning curve...Anyone out there also come the way of the simulator...
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Realflight is, and isn't alot of things. I use it a little each day to keep the brain and fingers moving in the right directions. Some guys won't like it because it doesn't seem or feel real. What it feels like at times is not so critical as the fact that a control input is a control input is a control input! They will always be real and don't change from maneuver to maneuver. An example would be rolling circles left and right, rolling loops in both directions, slow and point rolls etc. I hope you get the point and keep using the sim. There is alot to be said for spaced repitition education and simulation. Happy Holidays_bob
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Yep I hear ya...I don't fly airplanes on the simulator anymore, but I do practice the helicopter all the time now that I have an Ergo 46...What I liked about the simulator is you get a grip on your orientation...I think they are even more valuable for learning how to fly helicopters's, because there are every changing orientations with heli-flying...I think simulator's are great for starting up and I highly recommend them...After gallons of fuel and hours in the air, I have yet to have a major crash...Simulator's are great for your first steps...But' the real learning come's from time in the air at the field...
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They didn't have sims when I learned, or computers for that matter. I do use it for my heli a lot though. They are great. I saw a kid at the lake last year do an initial flight on a trainer. He had never flown before and would not take help. He took off toward the lake from his front yard, flew it and landed again without killing anyone or the plane. He said he used the sim a lot. He is either pulling my leg, or is lucky or good. Pretty interesting though.
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One of the guys I fly with is 100% self taught, thanks to RFG2. The first day he brought his trainer out (a Durabrick with an OS .40FP, by God) I'd forgotten to bring along my trainer cord.
I helped him check CG, throws, engine settings, etc. I maidened it, trimmed it out, landed it. He wanted to take it up; I didn't think it would be a good idea for a first flight with no buddy cord, but hey! its your plane - I'll grab the box if you have problems.
He took the tx, lined up with the runway, took off, flew a couple of circuits, landed. I think I gave him five pointers during that flight, most of them concerning the landing - keeping the airspeed up, when to flare, etc. Never had to touch the box.
Heck, my ability to fly helis is 100% due to RFG2.
These days, when an interested party asks me "what do I need in order learn R/C" a simulator is on the list. It does make a difference.
I helped him check CG, throws, engine settings, etc. I maidened it, trimmed it out, landed it. He wanted to take it up; I didn't think it would be a good idea for a first flight with no buddy cord, but hey! its your plane - I'll grab the box if you have problems.
He took the tx, lined up with the runway, took off, flew a couple of circuits, landed. I think I gave him five pointers during that flight, most of them concerning the landing - keeping the airspeed up, when to flare, etc. Never had to touch the box.
Heck, my ability to fly helis is 100% due to RFG2.
These days, when an interested party asks me "what do I need in order learn R/C" a simulator is on the list. It does make a difference.
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Definately.
The major cause of newbie crashes is just plain dumbthumbs caused by disorientation. Spend a couple weeks on a sim, and you won't have to think about which way to push the sticks. I becomes instinctive, just like using your mouse has become instinctive. Are you thinking, "OK hand, move the mouse over there"? Imagine how much easier your first RC flight would have been without any orientation issues whatsoever.
G2 is awesome.
The major cause of newbie crashes is just plain dumbthumbs caused by disorientation. Spend a couple weeks on a sim, and you won't have to think about which way to push the sticks. I becomes instinctive, just like using your mouse has become instinctive. Are you thinking, "OK hand, move the mouse over there"? Imagine how much easier your first RC flight would have been without any orientation issues whatsoever.
G2 is awesome.
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Yep... one of the Wonders of RealFlight is its PRICE !!!
Its is only good for first time training but there are other free sims that can serve the same purpose, like FMS.
Its is only good for first time training but there are other free sims that can serve the same purpose, like FMS.
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Gentlemen:
I have found another excellent use for RF G2.
I suppose I could make you guess, but I'll save time and tell you.
I am a scratch builder. A real scratch builder, not a plan builder.
Work out your design using a cad program, TLAR, or anything in between. Plug the numbers into RF, and see how it flies. Alter as necessary and try again. Gentlemen, it works. It is a H**L of a lot easier than building several variants of this and that, and so far, every one off the boards using this cheat has been a good plane. A tool well worth the $200 price.
Design your twin on RF, better than getting another ARF
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I have found another excellent use for RF G2.
I suppose I could make you guess, but I'll save time and tell you.
I am a scratch builder. A real scratch builder, not a plan builder.
Work out your design using a cad program, TLAR, or anything in between. Plug the numbers into RF, and see how it flies. Alter as necessary and try again. Gentlemen, it works. It is a H**L of a lot easier than building several variants of this and that, and so far, every one off the boards using this cheat has been a good plane. A tool well worth the $200 price.
Design your twin on RF, better than getting another ARF
Bill.
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Me too! I flew the first time with no help and I still fly on it every day. I can torque roll on it, but I can't do it with the models yet.
When I first began to fly, the guys at the field were amazed that I learned sooo quickly. So I came out to the field to break in my first engine. In the excitement, I forgot to pull my frequency pin then I heard from one of the guys..."did you learn that on your simulator"?
When I first began to fly, the guys at the field were amazed that I learned sooo quickly. So I came out to the field to break in my first engine. In the excitement, I forgot to pull my frequency pin then I heard from one of the guys..."did you learn that on your simulator"?
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I've been flying for 6 years now and just recently got RFG2. So far the simulator has been invaluable as a tool for my flying skills. By using the sim I have been able to work out the bugs on several maneuvers that I have always had trouble with. So for me it's been worth every penny. Also, my son (who is training now) has learned to land on the sim. We'll find out how that translates into the real world whenever the weather cooperates with us and lets us fly again.
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I had been away from flying for about 20 years, and recently got RFG2. Been flying it to re-aquire my skills and have to say it was a HUGE help. First time I tried G2, I crashed on takeoff with the PT-40. Now I can scream around with the Harrier with ease.
In the past month, I have re-built by Sig Kadet Mk1 and a Great Planes PT-E.
Yesterday (12-18-02) was the "big" day. Made it out to the flying field and 4 had excellent flights with both planes. I am back! Even had to deadstick the Kadet due to engine failure, guess 20 years on the shelf for a K&B 40 was a bit much, but the landing was on the runway center line and was one of the best landings I had ever done. Just greased it on!
If it wasn't for the simulator, I would have re-kitted both of them.
Now, on to my Mig 29!
Later!
In the past month, I have re-built by Sig Kadet Mk1 and a Great Planes PT-E.
Yesterday (12-18-02) was the "big" day. Made it out to the flying field and 4 had excellent flights with both planes. I am back! Even had to deadstick the Kadet due to engine failure, guess 20 years on the shelf for a K&B 40 was a bit much, but the landing was on the runway center line and was one of the best landings I had ever done. Just greased it on!
If it wasn't for the simulator, I would have re-kitted both of them.
Now, on to my Mig 29!
Later!
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Yep... Its is only good for first time training .
Yep... Its is only good for first time training .
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Real Flight and multi engine flying
Real Flight can be a great training aid for twin and multi engine flying. Try this: set "pilot behind aircraft", after you retract the gear hit the kill engine (K) key. One engine will randomly shut down. You can observe the model yaw towards the dead engine. As in full scale flying, if you try to stop the turn with aileron the model will spin in when the speed bleeds off (This is called VMC speed). You have to hold rudder to keep it straight and flying. With the gear and flaps up you can slowly climb. Gear and flaps down and you can't hold altitude, just like full scale. For more fun, fly the B-17 and every time you hit the K key one engine will randomly shut down. (They will windmill for a while). With two engines on one side shut down it takes a lot of rudder to keep her straight.
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Rus:
Very true. But don't forget to back to "Fixed pilot position" and do some more engine out practice.
ALL:
Recheck my post, #8. It was worded wrong, I have edited it. Should have been EVERY plane has been a good flyer off the board using RF to check the design.
A twin? You're IN!
Bill.
Very true. But don't forget to back to "Fixed pilot position" and do some more engine out practice.
ALL:
Recheck my post, #8. It was worded wrong, I have edited it. Should have been EVERY plane has been a good flyer off the board using RF to check the design.
A twin? You're IN!
Bill.
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RF Is a great tool if you do not fly on a blank screen. G2 can be set so you can fly with ground in view. If you do not keep graphics in veiw you do not have the real sensation of flying. Have used RFG2 for many years and have emproved control, and sharpens reflexis.
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I learned Fixed wings without anyone's help (bad idea) after being a U/C guy for a bit. After getting the Heli bug I bought a GMP cricket, and it may have lasted 15 minutes... I bought the old school RC Aerochopper and got good enuf to replace the cricket with a Concept 30, which is still alive today. I now have 4 more Nexus birds, and JUST bought G2.
WHy? cause my dad has that version, and I thought it was SO darn fun to try other planes before buying them.
Crash factor? ZERO!
It gives me the confidence to do inverted passes 1 ft above the deck without fear, and learn new manuvers without worrying that I was gonna put my Extra into the tarmack like I did showing off for the old man some time ago.
WHy? cause my dad has that version, and I thought it was SO darn fun to try other planes before buying them.
Crash factor? ZERO!
It gives me the confidence to do inverted passes 1 ft above the deck without fear, and learn new manuvers without worrying that I was gonna put my Extra into the tarmack like I did showing off for the old man some time ago.
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RF is a great tool for killing boredom during these lousy Michigan winters.
I like to fly off of the snow, but it can be a hassle to put on the long johns, etc.
Flying in the winter while wearing a robe and drinking a cup of coffee is alright with me.
I like to fly off of the snow, but it can be a hassle to put on the long johns, etc.
Flying in the winter while wearing a robe and drinking a cup of coffee is alright with me.