Saw "Flyboys" tonite
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Good movie, go see it. Kind of corny, but great flying, even if most of it was computer generated. The only German planes were DR-1's, and they were all red except for one, which was all black. There were Spad's, Nieuport 11's and 17's, Se-5's, Bristol FB-2's and a Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter, which was sort of the squadron taxicab. Most of what you saw in the air were Nieuport 17's.
I won't give away the story, but there is a love interest, I guess to break up the fight sequences and also so the wives will not want to leave halfway through. It's a little over two hours long.
I won't give away the story, but there is a love interest, I guess to break up the fight sequences and also so the wives will not want to leave halfway through. It's a little over two hours long.
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Have heard from five people here that have seen it, 3 no....2 go... I'll wait for the DVD... Like to see the cuts and special effects......
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Supposedly, only 5 actual flying aircraft, or something like that, the rest are computer generated; you have to look carefully to see it, ALL the planes had radials, no rotaries, it was obvious from the engine sound, and you could see it, too.
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They started with Model Airplanes for the flying sequences, but after some hair-raising crashes and mishaps, they switched to CGI.
Perhaps we will see a future MA magazine with some of the models.
Perhaps we will see a future MA magazine with some of the models.
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For those of you that saw "The Aviator", how realistic were the flying sequences in this movie? I remember that Model Aviation had a three part article covering the filming of the flying scenes with models of the Hughes aircraft not too long ago.
I'm hoping "Thunder Over Reno" (due out next summer?) doesn't rely too heavily on the computer graphic stuff.
I'm hoping "Thunder Over Reno" (due out next summer?) doesn't rely too heavily on the computer graphic stuff.
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Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
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Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
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Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
Generally, if the critics give it a high rating, I won't go see it. And if they give it an extremely poor rating, I won't go see that one either. If they give it a C rating or a middle ground rating, I won't go see that one either.
Critics are about as usefull as a floatation device while your hiking across the Sahara desert.
I'm a netflix guy. I don't usually see a movie untill it's been out on DVD for 3--6 months. It's just not worth paying $20 for a pair of tickets for me and the wife. She always wants a coke and a bag of popcorn. By the time I get back from the movies, I'm out about $35.
Netflix costs me $20 a month and I get to watch, on average, 3 movies a week. That ads up to about 12 or 15 movies a month for $20. Toss a bag of Orvill Redenbocker in the microwave and put the kids to bed. Pause it when ever I want if I need to go to the bathroom or get another drink. Better than a night out on the town.
I'll catch Flyboys sometime next year for about $1.25
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Netflix costs me $20 a month and I get to watch, on average, 3 movies a week. That ads up to about 12 or 15 movies a month for $20. Toss a bag of Orvill Redenbocker in the microwave and put the kids to bed. Pause it when ever I want if I need to go to the bathroom or get another drink.
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Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
Just got back from seeing it- I thought it was awesome. Personally I felt it was the best movie I've seen in a long time. The critics gave it a C , yet they gave Jackass 2 a B-.
Netflix costs me $20 a month and I get to watch, on average, 3 movies a week. That ads up to about 12 or 15 movies a month for $20. Toss a bag of Orvill Redenbocker in the microwave and put the kids to bed. Pause it when ever I want if I need to go to the bathroom or get another drink.
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Well, if you get by bi-planes flying like F-18's, its an ok movie. I highly doubt I would add if to my personal collection but it was fun to watch. Like its been said. Disconnect yourself from reality and its ok.
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It was a cool movie. Even if the performance of the planes was a bit unrealistic, it takes you back to WW1 and you see a lot of cool stuff. The Zeppelin was AWESOME, my wife did not even know zepps had existed until watching this movie. Go in with a good attitude, you see lots of old planes, WWi type era scenes, and you will love it.
If you go in with the attitude that " Im going to look for every inaccurate detial" then you will probably not like it.
Both my wife and I liked the movie
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If you go in with the attitude that " Im going to look for every inaccurate detial" then you will probably not like it.
Both my wife and I liked the movie
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Well if you want the history channel it's on cable movies are for entertainment. So I ignore their mistakes because if I didn't I wouldn't want to go see any of holyweird's movies. From relationships to guns, flying, fighting, etc. You name it and holyweird takes it all over the edge to the point of unrealism for the sake of entertainment.
Like in Pearly Harbor when they were taking off in the P-40's he told his buddy "P-40's can't out run zero's, we're going to have to out fly them." There was some definite historical innacuracy for you since the one thing a P-40 won't do is out fly a zero. Matter of fact the Zero will turn circles around it.
However aside from the fighting scene's Pearl Harbor sucked. It was a big mushy love story. Flyboys had a love story but it wasn't way over the top and it didn't consume 90% of the movie like Pearl Harbor did. Pearl Harbor was a love story with a war background, Flyboys was a war story with some love in the background.
Also for all their innacuracies they seemed to very detailed about much of the training devices and ideas they had about how to fly back then. It gave me more than one laugh thats for sure, and the action was great.
I think they do many things just to help the audience. A bunch of multicolored historically accurate bi-planes chasing each other around migth be great for the history buffs who can spot each type at a glance. For the other 99% of the people it would leave them going "Who is who?" about 3 seconds into the fight. Thus putting all the germans in tri-planes painted red and the one black a.k.a bad guy allowed the audience to clearly see friend from foe.
There were only like 5 real planes in the movie and I don't think they did any dogfighting, and they were all replica's made out of fabric and tube and can be had for around $15,000 in kit form with a motor.
Like in Pearly Harbor when they were taking off in the P-40's he told his buddy "P-40's can't out run zero's, we're going to have to out fly them." There was some definite historical innacuracy for you since the one thing a P-40 won't do is out fly a zero. Matter of fact the Zero will turn circles around it.
However aside from the fighting scene's Pearl Harbor sucked. It was a big mushy love story. Flyboys had a love story but it wasn't way over the top and it didn't consume 90% of the movie like Pearl Harbor did. Pearl Harbor was a love story with a war background, Flyboys was a war story with some love in the background.
Also for all their innacuracies they seemed to very detailed about much of the training devices and ideas they had about how to fly back then. It gave me more than one laugh thats for sure, and the action was great.
I think they do many things just to help the audience. A bunch of multicolored historically accurate bi-planes chasing each other around migth be great for the history buffs who can spot each type at a glance. For the other 99% of the people it would leave them going "Who is who?" about 3 seconds into the fight. Thus putting all the germans in tri-planes painted red and the one black a.k.a bad guy allowed the audience to clearly see friend from foe.
There were only like 5 real planes in the movie and I don't think they did any dogfighting, and they were all replica's made out of fabric and tube and can be had for around $15,000 in kit form with a motor.
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For those of you that saw "The Aviator", how realistic were the flying sequences in this movie? I remember that Model Aviation had a three part article covering the filming of the flying scenes with models of the Hughes aircraft not too long ago.
I'm hoping "Thunder Over Reno" (due out next summer?) doesn't rely too heavily on the computer graphic stuff.
For those of you that saw "The Aviator", how realistic were the flying sequences in this movie? I remember that Model Aviation had a three part article covering the filming of the flying scenes with models of the Hughes aircraft not too long ago.
I'm hoping "Thunder Over Reno" (due out next summer?) doesn't rely too heavily on the computer graphic stuff.
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Just for the sake of history, when WWII broke out the Japanese Zero was for the most part a well kept secret from the allied forces. It's certain Claire Chennault and his troop were well aware of what the capabilities of the zero were and how poorly the Warhawk compared, but there was liitle in the way of communication that was payed much attention to from the "eastern" theater.
The vast majority of ours and other allied pilots knew nothing at all about the Zero until December 7-8, depending on where you were with the dateline. That's why so many men died flying in Brewster Buffaloes. They did not know any better and really thought they had a chance. The P-39 was another that faired badly, and was a favorite target of Zero pilots due to the lack of armor it had at the time. By the time our forces finally met the Zero face to face the Japanese had about a 3 year aerial combat head start on us.
All in all, the Zero was a Japanese airborn secret weapon and it took the allied forces quite some time to catch up. Not until the Hellcat did the balance start to even out some, and even then the Zero was still superior. We had a lot more planes and pilots in the air by that time. True aircraft type superiority in the Pacific was not really attained until the P-38 made it's introduction. In that, the P-38 holds the record for the most Japanese planes shot down in WWII.
As for the Flyboys, it's supposed to be entertainment, not history. Hollywood has not accurately depicted history in a long, long time unless it suited their needs better than changing it would have.
The vast majority of ours and other allied pilots knew nothing at all about the Zero until December 7-8, depending on where you were with the dateline. That's why so many men died flying in Brewster Buffaloes. They did not know any better and really thought they had a chance. The P-39 was another that faired badly, and was a favorite target of Zero pilots due to the lack of armor it had at the time. By the time our forces finally met the Zero face to face the Japanese had about a 3 year aerial combat head start on us.
All in all, the Zero was a Japanese airborn secret weapon and it took the allied forces quite some time to catch up. Not until the Hellcat did the balance start to even out some, and even then the Zero was still superior. We had a lot more planes and pilots in the air by that time. True aircraft type superiority in the Pacific was not really attained until the P-38 made it's introduction. In that, the P-38 holds the record for the most Japanese planes shot down in WWII.
As for the Flyboys, it's supposed to be entertainment, not history. Hollywood has not accurately depicted history in a long, long time unless it suited their needs better than changing it would have.
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Just for the sake of history, when WWII broke out the Japanese Zero was for the most part a well kept secret from the allied forces. It's certain Claire Chennault and his troop were well aware of what the capabilities of the zero were and how poorly the Warhawk compared, but there was liitle in the way of communication that was payed much attention to from the "eastern" theater.
Just for the sake of history, when WWII broke out the Japanese Zero was for the most part a well kept secret from the allied forces. It's certain Claire Chennault and his troop were well aware of what the capabilities of the zero were and how poorly the Warhawk compared, but there was liitle in the way of communication that was payed much attention to from the "eastern" theater.
The vast majority of ours and other allied pilots knew nothing at all about the Zero until December 7-8, depending on where you were with the dateline. That's why so many men died flying in Brewster Buffaloes.
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As for the Flyboys, it's supposed to be entertainment, not history. Hollywood has not accurately depicted history in a long, long time unless it suited their needs better than changing it would have.
If you really want to know the real story as the film makers planned and executed the film, then you want to obtain the NOVEMBER 2006 issue of AIR CLASSICS which has a great story about the entire thing, why things were done as they were and the intents of the managers, even two sub-titles such as The REAL story and The REEL story of the Lafayette Escadrille.
The movie is NOT history but entertainment. Got to see it now.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]