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Old 01-30-2003, 06:42 PM
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I think one thing that is being missed here is that NONE of these drones would exist the way they do today if it weren't for the advances in R/C that WE have made over the past 10-15 years. Agree?
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Old 01-30-2003, 08:41 PM
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Don't mean to sound disrespectful, but that foreign policy is what kept you and a lot of Europe from being under Communist domination.
It is also what has helped to install oppressive and sometimes fascist governments in a number of south american and asian contries. It has also provided the same with weapons. Including the lunatic Saddam Hussein. Most of his weapons of massdestruction (which no one has seen evidence of) were given to him by the USA during the Iran-Iraq war.
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Most of his weapons of massdestruction (which no one has seen evidence of) were given to him by the USA during the Iran-Iraq war.
Why is this not surprising?

The US is headed in a fascist direction and toward a police state!

The Patriot Act is the biggest threat to Freedom since McCarthy.

As for terrorists using R/C aircraft for their acts, when it would be feasible for them to do so, they will try to do it. However, I think it would be easier to use full scale aircraft or other more efficient means for the distribution of bio-chem materials or bombs or whatever.
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Old 01-31-2003, 04:19 PM
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I don't want to get in a long political argument. That stuff doesn't belong here. I agree with js3. R/C planes are simply not very practical for bombings or other terrorist acts. It's much easier to just buy some fertilizer and load up the truck and blow something up. Takes very little chemistry-skills.
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Old 03-19-2003, 03:13 PM
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For news that you're not likely to read or see in the mainstream media, go to www.rense.com

Some silly stuff, but also some very thought provoking opinions and facts.
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Old 08-25-2003, 02:57 PM
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Analysts say Iraqi Drones pose no threat:

See here:
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/Main....rticleID=87527

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Old 08-25-2003, 03:33 PM
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Ka Ching!! We have a winner!! And a five month old resurrection to boot!!

Originally posted by ChuckAuger
I've been thinking about the boring part.

And then it came to me!

It's been at least a week since we've had a "RC planes used for terrorism" thread!!

Now that tells me SOMEBODY is laying down on the job.

Come on guys, you can do better than that!

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Old 08-25-2003, 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by ChuckAuger
Ka Ching!! We have a winner!! And a five month old resurrection to boot!!
LOL You nailed it. I'm surprised that nobody added the recent transatlantic RC flight to this thread and it's potential implications.
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Old 08-25-2003, 04:36 PM
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What do I win for the ressurection?

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Let me think like a terrorist.

Use R/C plane for a terrorist weapon.

Pros:
1. You can do a whole lot of damage with an aerosol can.
2. Cheap.
3. You can operate it from a distance if you maintain eye contact, and not get caught.

Cons:
1. The last time we thought we were gonna do a whole lot of damage with anthrax we only killed a few people.
2. You don't get those 40 virgin's in paradise.

Ryder Truck or Cement truck:

1. You can do a HUMONGOUS am out of damage!
2. Cheaper than R/C if you rent the truck. Why buy?
3. You get those 40 virgins for eternity!
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Old 08-25-2003, 05:39 PM
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Do any of you Guys remember your history?
Some of you may recall American history where a certain senator McCarthy whipped up the american public into a frenzy of anti-communist hysteria. Normal citizens were literally looking for " Reds under their Beds". A couple called the Rosenbergs were put on trial and excecuted without a shed of proof.

Its seems to me that some people are starting to develop the same sort of hysteria about terrorism.
Its difficult to make model planes into a mass murdering offensive weapon. Maybe 4 or 5 could be dived into a croud of people, but it would be a lot easier to use an everyday item-much less conspicuous like a car.Easier to use, can carry more whatever.
You may argue that if they use a car then they will get caught, but to be frank i dont think they really care.
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Old 08-25-2003, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Ensignnolo
What do I win for the ressurection?

Ensignnolo
You get to sit back and enjoy seeing this topic get hashed over yet again!

And Again.

And Again.

v
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And Again.

Hey, look!! Already two bites!!
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Old 08-25-2003, 05:50 PM
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A couple called the Rosenbergs were put on trial and excecuted without a shed of proof.

That's not true! The evidence in the trial was kept secret from the public, but some of it was used but could not be reported. Since then most of it has been declassified and has upheld the conviction.

Also this had little to do with McCarthy. What McCarthy did started out good, but he went way overboard. Just as the Patriot Act is trying to do a good thing, but went overboard.
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Old 08-25-2003, 05:55 PM
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Oh No!
Does this mean the end of aerosol cans.
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Old 08-25-2003, 06:30 PM
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here we are tryin to make our planes as light as we can just so they can fly, how do they think you could add 4-5 lbs to them and be able to keep thgem in the air long enough to "do damage"?
sure maybe on a 70% job you could but i think the terrorists would just use rpg's or something like that to get the job done
or full sized piper cubs or some such small plane. those would carry much more of a payload than a r/c plane


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Old 08-25-2003, 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by blue62
sure maybe on a 70% job you could but i think the terrorists would just use rpg's or something like that to get the job done
or full sized piper cubs or some such small plane. those would carry much more of a payload than a r/c plane


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Plus you can rent them for $40 per hour. Actually they are free cause you pay when you get back! And you get your virgin's!
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:01 PM
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The fact still remains, R/C planes have the potential as vehicles, not weapons. Panel truck rentals were not outlawed after OK City. Jet liners were not outlawed after 9/11.
The potential of an R/C plane is SIGNIFICANTLY less than a brown paper bag with a device in it dropped into a trash can on a busy sidewalk. Stapping an aerosol can to an R/C plane and putting it into a situation where whatever the can held could be delivered precisely enough and in a concentration high enough to do real damage is a HECK of a lot more difficult than simply carrying the cans into somewhere busy and simply starting to spray.
The HSA has identified R/C planes as a potential vehicle. You want to bet that bicycles, cars, motorcycles, trucks, planes, short pants, and pogo sticks are on that list as well?

Lastly, let's not forget the allure of this process. It's martyrdom and the 72 virgins. Getting yourself axed in the act is part of the MO.
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:34 PM
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"With a model airplane and an aerosol can, you can do a lot of damage."
Did not read thru all the posts to see if this had been mentioned, but....

with a Ryder rental truck and a visit to the farm supply store....
you can do a lot of damage.
Lets do away with rental trucks and farm supply stores.
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better yet lets do away with the terrorists!!!


no virgins!


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What better way to terrorize a society than to force it to ban things it enjoys (RC Airplanes, guns, rockets, gardening), make its people subject to background checks and strip searches at random, have cameras watching its people and listening in on them, and forcing them to lock their doors, stock up on food and water, and wear gas masks.


Yep, I say we could be doing a great job on the war on terrorism, for the terrorists benefit.

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Is it 72 virgins? LOL I thought it was 40! Where to sign up?
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:21 PM
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I agree with scott we shouldn't ban everything that people think might be used as a terrorist weapon. That would just take away from our freedoms and if the terrorist wanted to they could get a hold of weapons to use, a little thing called the black market that nobody can stop. I think everyone should go out and just live there lives like normal and worry about what might happen, if you do you are just letting the terrorist win.
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Old 09-01-2003, 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by SDCrashmaster
The no fly perimeter around San Diego's Jack Murphy Stadium was 7 Miles.
jack murphy wow that dates you doesnt it lol i used to fly at the stadium but since they stopped that i cant even think of a suitable place to fly R/C within 7 miles of it but i have been gone for a few years now
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Old 09-01-2003, 07:29 PM
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some one posted that 99.99999% of us in the hobby are..... well i beg to differ i think ALL of us in the HOBBY are good and do not pose a terrorist threat i think terrorists pose a terrorist threat their weapon of choice makes no difference if they use a sport sized cub that doesnt make the R/C community a bunch of bad guys on our way to gitmo any more that using a 777 or was it a 757 makes airline pilots a threat and should a terrorist use an R/C plane doesnt make him a hobbyist
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Originally posted by Sport_Pilot
Is it 72 virgins? LOL I thought it was 40! Where to sign up?
may sound funny to us outsiders but people really do sign up all the time, usually young men who haven't touched anything other than a donkey or a goat. another great incentive is the nice check your family receives when the deed is done...

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