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Old 02-14-2003, 03:09 AM
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I'm somewhat new to aircraft terms etc...

I've seen ROG many times. What's it mean?
Old 02-14-2003, 03:11 AM
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ROG = Real Old Guy, also known as the guy that's telling you that your color scheme on your new plane is "just too wild".
Old 02-14-2003, 03:22 AM
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ROG-roll on ground, to let an airplane take off using its own power, versus hand launching it. Used a lot in rubber band and F/F planes, well at least that's what it use to mean a long time ago.
Old 02-14-2003, 03:28 AM
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Rise Off Ground, then what GrnBrt said.
Old 02-14-2003, 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by P-51B
Rise Off Ground, then what GrnBrt said.
OOPS!!! Darn pain pills did it to me again, can't see the darn keyboard, yup that be right, rise, not roll!!!!!! Color me embarressed!!!!
Old 02-14-2003, 01:56 PM
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ROG is used to distinguish a ground takeoff from a handlaunch takeoff. ROW stands for Rise Off Water. These terms originated with freeflight competition classes a long time ago.

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Old 02-14-2003, 01:58 PM
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There were also ROW (rise off water) freeflight events with floats. Usually launched from a big piece of plastic filled with some water.

John
Old 02-14-2003, 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by GrnBrt


OOPS!!! Darn pain pills did it to me again, can't see the darn keyboard, yup that be right, rise, not roll!!!!!! Color me embarressed!!!!

It means 9x9 APC " Michael Jackson"
Old 02-14-2003, 05:18 PM
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What is being referred to when talking about prop size? 10x7, 9x9, etc.
Old 02-14-2003, 05:27 PM
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The first number is the diameter and the second number is the pitch (angle). The pitch can be defined as the distance the prop is moved forward in one revolution if it were operating in a theoretical solid medium with no slippage.

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Old 02-14-2003, 06:25 PM
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Heres a few more,

Prop wash - the bucket of soap and water you clean the prop with

bi-plane - what you say when your radio quits working

try-plane - your first attempt at flying

ARF - All ready to fix or something your dog says when he eats your plane.

RTF - Ready to fix, right out of the box. Pre broke.

Winch - the gal you left home.

Sail Plane - the one you just flew and crashed, "fer sail"

Fuse - the wick in the fire cracker

fire wall - the thing you stand behind when your gasser backfires and burns.

canopy - the bucket under the bench when the outhouse if full.

Push Rod - how to get him out of the way of the plane coming at him.

Elevator - the big square building they load grain into from trucks, the one your plane just hit.



Ok, they were pretty bad. Must have not had much to do eh.
Old 02-14-2003, 06:56 PM
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LOL Flyboy! What I hate is a COG - "Crash On Ground"..
Old 02-14-2003, 09:20 PM
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So which would produce more thrust, a 10x1 or a 10x20? It would be the 10x20 right?
Old 02-14-2003, 09:26 PM
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Yes Shor your right but both prop sizes are a bit unrealistic.
Old 02-14-2003, 09:26 PM
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Well, that depends. the power of the engine has a lot to do with it. a 10x20 WOULD produce more thrust, if your engine can swing one. But, for example, if your engine runs great with a 10x6, then a 10x8 might be too much for it and the engine can't produce the power it can with a 10x6. You could however try a 9x8 and get better (or worse) results. It's a give and take thing.
Old 02-14-2003, 09:57 PM
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Yes, I realize those sizes are unrealistic, but they were more or less to make it easier for me to visualize them. Thanks for the help guys!
Old 02-14-2003, 11:37 PM
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Both props produce the exact same thrust at the same rpm, they will just produce it at different forward airspeeds. The 10x1 will probably produce it at a negative airspeed, the 10x20 will produce it at a very high forward airspeed. The thing to remember is that the thrust for any prop is produced at an optimum angle of attack of the blade. When there is more air velocity traveling through the prop from the front, then angle of attack of the air hitting the prop blade is reduced. If you get the airflow moving fast enough, and keep the prop spinning at the same RPM, then the air will have the same angle of attack as the 10x1 prop sitting still. The trouble is that it is a converging dynamic process. As you increase the forward airstream, the load on the prop goes down and the engine will speed up. All in all, lower pitch props will reach maximum thrust lower down on the forward airspeed scale, higher pitch props will reach that same thrust higher up on the forward airspeed scale. A low pitch prop, once the forward airspeed exceeds a value such that the angle of attack is zero or negative (such as in a dive at idle) , will actually be working in reverse, slowing the plane down. This is called downline braking.
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AS KILROY would say this whole thread is SNAFU!!!!!!!!
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