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Old 03-11-2003, 09:09 AM
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I was just curious as to how many RC'rs are either building full scale, or wanting to build full scale. I've noticed that a lot of the users on my site are RC'rs like me and a lot of those experiences come out when talking about full scale. I like to come here to RC universe because I love RC and because there are great shop tips that are great for both RC and full scale.

Anyway, just wondering if there are any dual passion folks out there or if I'm the only one .

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Old 03-11-2003, 12:07 PM
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Gee, Jake, I have thought about it, but if it takes me 2 years to build a 1/4 scale aircraft, I figure it would take me 8 years to get through a full scale. I don't have that level of patience!

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I know FLYBOY's building a FS Long E-Z
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Old 03-11-2003, 02:56 PM
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Gee, Jake, I have thought about it, but if it takes me 2 years to build a 1/4 scale aircraft, I figure it would take me 8 years to get through a full scale. I don't have that level of patience!
Did you watch Junk Yard wars the other night? They built a full scale in 3 days !!!

I know FLYBOY's building a FS Long E-Z
The long EZ is similar to the design I'm getting ready to start work on. It's a four seat version called the Cozy MKIV. 200 MPH cruise, 1000 mile range, $30,000 when it's all said and done, 3000 hour build time.... . I'm thinking of building a 1/4 scale version, but there are no plans or kits for this aircraft. I think by the time I design and build the 1/4 scale version, I could have the full scale one done. Still, I think I might try. I would like to use the 1/4 scale as a test bed for the placement of a Ballistic Recovery Parachute.

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Old 03-11-2003, 03:17 PM
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Well, good question, I guess i'll let the cat out of the bag...
Currently we have 3 full scales planes out on the farm...in various stages of completion.
1948 Piper Vagabond PA-15 clipped wing. 90% restored. Fuse is done, all that's left is to recover the wing...We did the Stitz thing...really goof proof. Connie C-85, no electrics...hand propper.
Pretty small plane, actually. Gotta love those wheelpants

OK, next is a Thorp T-218 kit we bought from the Arlington Airshow a couple of years ago. Corro wing skins and tail feathers, C-85 also. We got a smokin' deal on it 10.6K complete. All parts were jig drilled, and even came with LG and wheels, and a few pieces of avionics, gratis.
Wing is finished, Tail feathers are done, and the fuse is roughly 85% complete.
We've hit about 4000 rivets thusfar....I usually am on the bucking bar...
We still have to pull the heads off the Connie and do the inspec...

I'll get to the third later, I gotta run...
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Old 03-11-2003, 03:23 PM
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I've been going to Arlington for the past 6 years or so. There are a couple of users on my website that are planning on meeting there this year. Sounds like you've got some real work ahead of you. Good luck!

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Old 03-11-2003, 04:20 PM
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I built a Spitfire II in 83 utralight kit C-IDLR 503 Rotax sold and now ??
built a Skypup from plans in 84 277 Rotax 225 hours sold after loosing medical in 92 C-IFOA will be flying again soon new owner tells me
also built ( he paid ) a Renegade II C-IIWR 503 Rotax
and a Rotorway exec ( I built and he helped some and paid ) C-GTTQ
back to full time modeling since 1993 and having fun
and not missing a chance to fly with my homebuilding friends also
keep those feet and hands coordinated hi hi

Might build 1/1 scale again healt depending
just been through heart surgery again
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Old 03-11-2003, 04:49 PM
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Well, if the new sport pilot license comes out, all you will need is a driver’s license for a medical. No more going to the doctor to get checked out for a class III. I guess they figure if you can drive you must be medically fit to fly a two seater up to a certain weight and speed (can't remember particulars at the moment). It also means just a 20 hour instruction period instead of 40 for the private pilot. I think it's going to help a lot of people that otherwise could not fly because of medical or financial reasons.
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Old 03-11-2003, 04:58 PM
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My first class medical was easy enough to get


Ive seen Mikeys planes, they are all over the place!!
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Old 03-11-2003, 05:42 PM
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I am building a modified Long EZ. We call it the Limo EZ. It is longer, wider and deeper than an ez, but not by much. The fuse is more round as well. My friend that designed the space shuttle desinged this too. It is way cool. His fastest is 238 MPH. This one should be a bit faster with some mods he made. It is a pretty cool picture. I will put a picture up when I get back from this trip.
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Old 03-11-2003, 06:58 PM
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A picture would be great. Sounds live an extermely interesting project. I know my users would be interested also if you got the chance.

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Old 03-11-2003, 07:23 PM
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I would love to see a RC model of the Velocity....
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Old 03-11-2003, 07:34 PM
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Is it just me or are there not a whole lot of RC kits based on full scale homebuilt designs? I've seen an RV, and for the life of me I can't think of many more, although I am sure there are. Really, homebuilding full scale aircraft is where most of the innovation in full scale aviation is at so I'm surprised you don't see more of an emphasis on recreating these aircraft. Hmm...Maybe there are more RC replicas of homebuilts than I think.
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I have the Vmar Vans RV-4 that I've been flying for a few months....With a OS 46FX and a Saturn Hobbies Plasma piston and ceramic liner,
Planes is really fast..heavy, but fast...
Would I buy one?
No way, Jose.
Looks good in the air, however.
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Byron has a Glasair ITD, Great Planes has a new Lancair ES, there are plans for a Kitfox floating around, plus some racers. Oh, there are 100" racing Lancair IV's out there too. I'd still like to see more.

I have a KR-2S in my shop, though I'm just not motivated to build it as I bought it before starting flying floats. It's a little small for two full size guys and I can't get floats on it, so it's probably going to have to go. Someday I want to do a Glastar on amphibs. I've helped build a Murphy Super Rebel on amphibs, and it was a lot of fun.
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I also forgot to mention the Fusco Berkut, Long EZ, and Quickie.
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There's no full scale in the works for me.....yet, but I am an EAA member and I did work for Cirrus back in the days when they were selling kits for the VK-30.
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I've got an RV-8 in the works now. Tail is complete and the wings are in the jig being skinned. Maybe in a couple years it will be done!!
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Count me in, well now out, wishing to be in, ahhh heck give me a few years.
Started a Pitts 12 from scratch a fews years back, Had all the wing parts complete and all the metal cut and bent ready to assemble. THEN
Wife got a pretty good job offer and talked me into a career change (didn't take much). Relocated-sold all the parts due to financial reasons-I did keep the plans and jigs so I can start again.
So hence I'll be at it again in the next 5 yrs.
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Here is my Limo EZ fuse with the canard on it. This was about a month ago. Now the nose is on. I will try to put a pic of sams on here if I can find one small enough. His is flying. It looks great.
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Here is Sams. I had to thrash the picture to get it small enough. Sorry for the bad image.
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Thanks for the pictures flyboy. Have you checked out the canard community at www.cozyaircraft.com/forum . It's mostly Cozy builders but there are some long EZ builders there. I share about 1/5th of my members with that site. What engine are you going to put in it? Has it been pretty similar to building RC? Are you going to build a scale model to fly down at the field? .

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Here's the Emeraude I completed from scratch in 1999. We're flying across the Mohave Desert, just South of Edwards AFB.



And here's the 1/4 scale version:



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VERY nice looking Emeraude. There is a framed up emeraude down at the McCalister museum of aviation just down the road from where I live. I like to go down there and drool over it because I really enjoy looking at the wooden structures or aircraft. In addition to creating homebuiltairplanes.com my wife and I have been doing some work on the McCallister website (which has not been updated yet if you go look) so I get a chance to drop down there often. I would like to build an all wood aircraft someday once my fast four seat composite bird is done. Maybe a GP-4 or or an Emeraude

Did you build your 1/4 scale with the same basic structure as the full size? How does it fly?

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p.s. I just noticed your location. Will you be taking it to Arlington this year? You should take both!
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Ill be at Arlington this year, Any of you guys ever flown into it? Is it a madhouse?
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