elisepower101

Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone know how to get a 3pmx remote to work with a r6004ff receiver?

I know the receiver says it will only work with 2 remotes, neither of which are the 3pmx, but the size of the receiver makes it perfect for me.

what would make a 2.4Ghz receiver not work with a 2.4Ghz remote? I don't get it?

Please help, Thanks.

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That would be a question best posted in the [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_125/tt.htm]Futaba Support forum[/link]

You read the Tower description it says what radios it's compatible with,,. those are the curent 2.4 "Aircraft" radios in Futaba's line. It's marketed as a "Aircraft" reciever.
I'd bet it will work with any 2.4 futaba module/Tx

Why do you wan to use it with a 3 channel Surface Radio,, just the small size???
I'd guess it won't hold up to abuse like a Rx designed for surface use will.

What do you plan to put it in?

p.s.
Welcome to RCU

Bax

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The Futaba R6004FF receiver is an aircraft receiver, and will not work with the R/C car transmitters. Per the tech notes: "Compatible with the following FASST transmitters; 6EX, 7C, and the following transmitter modules; TM7, TM8 (on 7 channel mode), TM10 (on 7 channel mode) and TM14 (on 7 channel mode)." It will also work with the 12FG and 12Z transmitters.

Silent-AV8R

This is a handy chart to keep bookmarked:

http://2.4gigahertz.com/modules/modules-receivers.html

It shows what works with what.

scale only 4 me

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Why?

I just to test put my TM-7 Moudule that I normally use with my 8u Tx, in my 3PK Tx, and it it works fine with the R607FS Rx
Acording to the chart Silent-AV8R linked they don't work together but they do in my basement.

elisepower101

Yeah, It's all about the size, weight, and price. its about 1/3 the size of a normal surface receiver, and it's half the price. to me thats a win win.

I have a 3pmx remote, but no receiver. Then i found the r6004ff, and looked it up on the futaba website for computability. I couldn't find the computability charts so i assumed "if it doesn't have a chart then it should work.... 2.4Ghz is 2.4Ghz right?" I know it didn't matter back in the remote krystal era.

Then as the receiver was in the mail I found the chart that said it's not compatible.

Regardless i would love to use this small receiver with my car, I plan on using a water proofing epoxy on all the electronics and then it should easily be robust enough.

Silent-AV8R

It is the module that is making it work, not the transmitter. So the TM-7 module clearly shows it works with the 607FS RX. No surprise. But you don't have 6 or 7 channels with it, just the three that the 3PK has.

The 3PM-X is a non module based transmitter and will not work with the 6004FF or any of the 6 channel and above RXs.

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Your logic escapes me but I have no way of verifying or disproving what you say
Have you actually tried it or are you just repeating what you figure is fact because you've read it online?

Silent-AV8R

How was I not clear?

You took an aircraft module, the TM-7. Apparently you plugged it into you 3PK module based TX. And surprise, your 607 RX works with it. Just like it should, since that TX module is intended to work with that RX. But the 603FF, 603FS and 604FS will NOT work with it, even though it is a "surface" TX. It is the module that determines which receivers it can talk to.

Now, take this module: http://www.gpdealera.com/cgi-bin/wga...pgm?I=FUTL8925 and plug it into your 3PK. I will guarantee you that your 607 RX will no longer work with that TX. Again, it is the TX module that determines what RX will work with it.

SO there is nothing wrong with the Futaba chart (not my chart) since it still shows what modules will work with what RX.

On the 3PM-X it does not have a module, therefore you cannot plug your TM-7 module into it so hence only the 603FF and 603FS RXs will work with that radio. Not even the 604FS surface RX will work with the 3PM-X.

Make sense??

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Oh, I understand what you're saying just fine


If your theory is true, please explain why the R607FS I have and use with the Module, which you say is "Module specific" and won't work without a module based Tx, is also shown on the chart as being compatible with the 6ex and all the other non-module TXs???

Silent-AV8R

You are getting lost in the terminology. The 607 which is working with your TM-7 module in the 3PK transmitter is working as noted on the chart. The 607FS is not "Module specific", it only works with the modules and non-module transmitters shown on the chart. It will work with any module based transmitter that you can stick a compatible TX module into. Hence it working with the TM-7 module in the 3PK transmitter.

The 607FS will not work with the 3 channel module I linked to, nor will the 603FF, 603FS, 604FS receivers.

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How do you know this other than reading the futaba website?

Silent-AV8R

I own a 3PM, 4PK, 6EXA, and 14MZ with a TM-14 TX module. The first three are non-module radios.

I own 603FF, 603FS, 604FS, 6004FF, 617FS, 608FS, 6008HS, 6014FS, and 6014HS receivers.

I have yet to find an error in the chart. And the fact that the TM-7 module operated the 607FS receiver that you have is not contradictory to what is in the chart. ALthough I am surprised that the module worked in your 3PK transmitter.

So what exactly is your question or point??

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Too bad you don't have the 3pmx so you could actually tested for yourself since you have the 6004FF.

You'd be surprised how many different modules I've used/tested with the 3pk, there is quite a bit cross compatibility not outlined anywhere

Do me a favor, try and bind those 3 or 4 channel receivers to your TM-14,, just for giggles see if it works

elisepower101

Could one of you explain to me exactly how you would "bind" your remote to the receiver. the instructions are pretty simple but maybe I'm missing something.

Silent-AV8R

There is absolutely no difference in the RF deck of the 3PM-X and the 3PM. The ONLY differences are some programming added for the rock crawler guys. SO since my R6004FS will not work with my 3PM I can absolutely, positively say that it will not work with the 3PM-X either.

Oh, and I just tried to bind a 603FF, 603FS, and 604FS to my 6EXA AND my TM-14 in both FASST-Multi and 7-Channel FASST modes, and surprise surprise, it does not work. In fact, the LED stays red indicating that it is not seeing a FASST signal from a TX other than one it is bound to. If a FASST RX sees another FASST signal from a TX that it is not bound to it will flash green. It goes solid green when bound to a TX.

So let's review:

I cannot get a 603FF, 603FS, or 604FS to bind to either a 6EXA or a TM-14 (in either mode)

The LEDs glow red when powered up with either the 14MZ/TM-14 or 6EXA transmitters near them and turned on.

I cannot get a R6004FF RX to bind to either my 3PM or 4PK and its LED also glows red when near either TX

So help me out, where are you going with this??

Silent-AV8R

What RX and TX are you trying to bind??

Krysta

scale only 4 me,

I would like to ask you to send in your 14MZ with it's TM14 module and your R603FS and R604FS, if you are getting these to bind. We would definitely like to check these out.

Silent-AV8R is correct in what he is telling you.

BUT if you are getting ANY of these to bind that he says will not work, then please send them in so that we can exam them.


Sincerely,
Krysta
Product Development & Support Specialist
Futaba Service Center USA
[email protected]

elisepower101

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what RX and TX is. 

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Sometimes it just seems useless to ask questions,,

Krysta

As Silent AV8R mentioned, please look at the website for the compatiblity chart.

It sounds like where this all went wrong is that someone may have suggested to you an R604FS receiver for you to use with your transmitter. And somehow you ended up with an R6004FS which is only compatible with the air transmitters.

It is unfortunate that this happened, but to rectify this, you will simply need to get the correct receiver for your transmitter. Following the chart will help you choose.

Asking why Futaba makes different receivers for different transmitters, is something you would need to contact them about. We are simply the Distributor and Support for them here in the United States.


Sincerely,
Krysta
Product Development & Support Specialist
Futaba Service Center USA
[email protected]

Silent-AV8R

You do not have to be "into it" The RX name is printed on it as is the transmitter.

As far as compatibility goes, I guess it would be nice if everything worked with everything, but since they make no secret of what works with what I do not see it as an issue.

If your RX LED is glowing RED then your transmitter module is not compatible with that RX and you will not be able to bind them to each other.

elisepower101

OK, well I'm at work right now so I can't check on that till tonight. do you know the difference between them though? are they different frequencies, or?.....   

Silent-AV8R

I'm sorry, I do not understand your question. "RX remotes"??

The radio system is comprised of two main parts, the thing you hold is called a transmitter (TX). The thing in your car, boat, plane, heli is called a receiver (RX).

With spread spectrum frequency is not an issue. However, due to channel counts and other internal electronic differences not all Futaba FASST transmitters and receivers can talk to each other. The chart I linked to shows what works with what.

http://2.4gigahertz.com/modules/modules-receivers.html

elisepower101

Ok, I just call them transmitters or receivers. I guess (RX and TX) is just how Futaba identifies them .