How Many Do I Need?
I must have 30 philips head screwdrivers in and around my workbench. I have yet to find one that I can grip strong enough to remove tightly driven screws. Or one that doesn't roll out of the slots without adding downward pressure to keep the driver in them. I have different sizes, brands, handles, points, no points.... Well you get the picture. Does anyone make a screwdriver that has both grip and the shape to fit the cheap metal screws we deal with? I am tired of buying every different set I run across.
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Some model engines use Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) head screws. This is a slightly different design than an American Phillips head screw. A normal Phillips screwdriver will not properly engage a JIS screw. It will tend to cam out and round the slot. I need to get a JIS screwdriver myself, but I have not found a source.
You can tell a JIS screw by looking at it. The X slot will look the same as a normal Phillips but it will have a little dot outside of the X. |
Thanks JP, looks like I need to start searching as well.
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Got my set at Amazon: Hozan JIS-4 JIS Screwdriver Set (NEW 3rd. Gen)
Well recommended by reviewers. I have found the set to cover all the Japanese screws I find in the hobby: Servos, Engines, Fittings. I am very happy with the set... |
Thanks for the info Ram, I did do a search on Amazon and have a set on the way.
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I just ordered a set form RJRCoolTools, which seems to specialize in RC stuff.
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A set of JIS screwdrivers would be a good start, I bought these as singles from McMaster.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japane...rivers/=rglx4f Also, get some anti-cam out drivers from either Wera or Wiha. Wera makes their Lasertip and that works very well. I have both and prefer the Wiha handles a bit more. You can buy sets or individual drivers from Amazon or McMaster. http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-Screwdriv...D3E72WAKQRMCS5 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001NQQCM/ref=biss_dp_t_asn http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-screwdrivers/=rglq3f |
Thanks for all the info. Looks like I will be adding to my collection, but the right adds will be very welcome.
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Another good driver for Phillips type screws is the "Reed and Prince". That is what a lot of aircraft manufactures use on their production craft. The Reed and Prince type are very efficient as all sizes use the same driver and all fit perfectly. I agree that all modelers should have a set of JIS as nearly all RC equipment is manufactured where the JIS is the standard and it really is a much better item than the typical Phillips is.
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one other little known method of dealing with Phillips and Reed & Prince screws...
grab a tube of valve grinding compound from your local auto parts store. put a small dab on the screwdriver tip. ;) that little extra bit of 'grab' that the compound creates works wonders for getting the screws back out. |
I'm happy to find a screwdriver. They seem to disappear to the same void were my socks and toenail clippers end up.
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I know exactly what you mean. It's the same with small parts for me. I just know they are under my bench, but when I look they can't be found. It's like the bugs carry them off.
Hmmmm....maybe that is why I am missing screwdrivers. |
Those Philips types that hit the bottom of the screw before the four sides, I take it and grind the tip down so the sides actually hit before the tip. Much less chance of slipping. Had to do this with most of my Philips screwdrivers.
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Originally Posted by Flypaper 2
(Post 11779928)
Those Philips types that hit the bottom of the screw before the four sides, I take it and grind the tip down so the sides actually hit before the tip. Much less chance of slipping. Had to do this with most of my Philips screwdrivers.
I agree however for grinding the tip :) works great! |
Looks like the grinder is going to have some use ahead.
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I use the cheap 4-in-1 or 6-in1 screwdrivers you find in the bins at Ace, True Value, Lowes or Menards. The #2 bit works very well to remove those screws. Although I did have to slim down that bit to remove the head screws. (Think about it like sharpening a pencil with the Dremel.) Then I replace all of them with socket head machine screws.
And, with the bit removed, it makes a glow plug wrench. Ken |
Ken,
I also have started using these same tools from ACE tool bins and have had very good results. They work equal to if not better then my Craftsman. |
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