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FlyerInOKC 12-11-2014 08:04 AM

Makes sense. Sounds like a Great Planes building board with a mahogany veneer only I'll bet it was bigger.

stegl 12-11-2014 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Leroy Gardner (Post 11935168)
That is one hell of a fine video, thanks for posting it. I could watch more of them.

Leroy

If you want some more DH Mosquito video , although current , try googling DH Mosquito Victoria air services and watch some of the
rebuild info of the only, 2nd flying Mosquito in the world. AND the sound of engine run-up of the 1700 hp each; of the Merlins powering it. It flew at last summers Abbotsford Airshow for 2014. Was there and an awesome sound and sight. You could also try Abbotsford 2014 DH Mosquito.

vertical grimmace 12-11-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GallopingGhostler (Post 11935615)
(From thread, 1959 Berkeley Impulse Single Channel Pylon Racer Build.) They were $0.25 each back in the mid 1960's.


Of course, my favorite was the Fokker version hand launch glider!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054105http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054106

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vertical grimmace (Post 11935640)
Of course, my favorite was the Fokker version hand launch glider!

You mean this?
http://www.amazon.com/Guillow-45B-Bi.../dp/B000BQLE0I
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054107
Silk screening was different 30 or 40 years ago, but Guillow still makes them.

donnyman 12-11-2014 10:13 AM

Well the memories are flooding in again.

My dad gave me a drafting board when I was Quite young, he noticed me copying home floor plans from magazines. It was a self contained unit, the tee square slide into a slot on the back locking in two different sized triangles for transporting. my first real venture into drafting many years later I did quite a bit of 3d drafting.
Now that I am thinking of it, as much as I disliked school then(other than my aviation classes) and was so happy when I graduated highschool I swore "no more school for me" well That year I joined the A/F and was sent to school and until 1994 a year did not pass without me being in one school or another ..................weird! After retireing I took alow paying circuit board soldering job. Before I left I had 14 certificates of training in soldering. More school.

G/ghost...now I remember the sleek streek and that little bipe, pictures speak volumes.

rt3232 12-11-2014 10:48 AM

Donny
Please don't start on the best way to do a good soldering joint ;) been there done it looked at more X-rays of good and bad joints than I want to remember, was a NASA certified instructor way back on the Apolo program.
Sleek Streek was a fun little bird till we brook the wings then we had to learn how to make them out of sheet stock, made hand carved blocks for the airfoils and dihedral socked the wood rubber banded it to the shapes and let it dry but I am thinking a little farther back say 39 to 41

This thread is a hoot and fun to read.

Cheers Bob T
AMA13377

Greybeard1 12-11-2014 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=donnyman;11935719. I was a self contained unit, the tee square slide into a slot on the back locking in two different sized triangles for transporting.[/QUOTE]

I remember those, IIRC, Post made them for students. Tee square and the standard 30/60/90 and 45/90 triangles. Never had one, but some of the other kids I went to school with did. Now I have a small table and a couple of Bruning drafting machines, Maybe more convenient, but also maybe not. Still have the aluminum pencil with the replaceable leads, and the sharpener they made for it, still use it. Powdered artgum, and all the other stuff to go with it, probably have a couple dozen of the triangular scales, a lot of curves, from the small one used in HS to ships curves. Drafting compass sets, but no india ink anymore, haven't seen that in years. I remember several times inking a tracing, almost done, then one of my "classmates" walking past, hitting the Tee square and sliding it over the wet ink. "Buddies", how did we live without them.

Rich.

vertical grimmace 12-11-2014 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by GallopingGhostler (Post 11935664)
You mean this?
http://www.amazon.com/Guillow-45B-Bi.../dp/B000BQLE0I
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054107
Silk screening was different 30 or 40 years ago, but Guillow still makes them.

Yah, that is the one. Don't know how many times I begged my mom for those! The Fokker was my Dad's favorite airplane. I sure wish he could have seen mine. I think he would have liked it.

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 12:03 PM

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How many remember this glider from Keith Laumer's book, How to Design and Build Flying Models:

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/books/lis...ers.asp?book=4

Pipsqueak Glider:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054122
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3814

That was my first scratch build from 1966. :)

Greybeard1 12-11-2014 12:11 PM

Don't remember it, but I'm gonna build it.

Rich.

donnyman 12-11-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vertical grimmace (Post 11935062)
I am kinda thinking of building a CG Sky tiger for old time sake. Being that I am a sentimental sort. I loved that plane. This time around I would throw a gasser on it, cover it with fabric and paint it. May have to start watchin' the bay for one of those. Would love to have the original kit, as opposed to the re-release.

Here you go, I,ve had this for years, I recently sold a copy. was thinking of building it. I also have 2 sixty size tiger copies of a friends kit.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054127http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054128

donnyman 12-11-2014 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Greybeard1 (Post 11935749)
I remember those, IIRC, Post made them for students. Tee square and the standard 30/60/90 and 45/90 triangles. Never had one, but some of the other kids I went to school with did. Now I have a small table and a couple of Bruning drafting machines, Maybe more convenient, but also maybe not. Still have the aluminum pencil with the replaceable leads, and the sharpener they made for it, still use it. Powdered artgum, and all the other stuff to go with it, probably have a couple dozen of the triangular scales, a lot of curves, from the small one used in HS to ships curves. Drafting compass sets, but no india ink anymore, haven't seen that in years. I remember several times inking a tracing, almost done, then one of my "classmates" walking past, hitting the Tee square and sliding it over the wet ink. "Buddies", how did we live without them.

Rich.

I can remember when I would have given my left n.. well I wanted a bruning until I got a cad program. But I have all those goodies you mentioned and I do ink vellum copies every now and then.

donnyman 12-11-2014 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by rt3232 (Post 11935739)
Donny
Please don't start on the best way to do a good soldering joint ;) been there done it looked at more X-rays of good and bad joints than I want to remember, was a NASA certified instructor way back on the Apolo program.
Sleek Streek was a fun little bird till we brook the wings then we had to learn how to make them out of sheet stock, made hand carved blocks for the airfoils and dihedral socked the wood rubber banded it to the shapes and let it dry but I am thinking a little farther back say 39 to 41

This thread is a hoot and fun to read.

Cheers Bob T
AMA13377

This thread is fun! You jogged my memory.. back in the days of yesteryear I was on the roof with my 5 cent glider I launched it and the left wing folded against the fuselage, that thing just hung there in the air for what seemed like a eternity then a very slow circle glide I was flippin out! I was on a 13 story building and ran down the stairs out on the grass, the glider was at least still ten stories up, when it landed I glued that wing in place took it back on the roof and let it fly.....................Lawn dart! but I did learn about dihedral and thermals that day.

FlyerInOKC 12-11-2014 01:45 PM

Speaking of getting on the roof back in the sweet stupid days of youth. I rigged a Band Aid box (back when they were all metal) with a parachute so when I threw it off the roof the door would open and the chute opened. It was something to do.

donnyman 12-11-2014 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC (Post 11935867)
Speaking of getting on the roof back in the sweet stupid days of youth. I rigged a Band Aid box (back when they were all metal) with a parachute so when I threw it off the roof the door would open and the chute opened. It was something to do.

Most kids today would not have the imagination.

Ram-bro 12-11-2014 03:34 PM

My 1st RCplane was he Jr falcon and the Mattel radio....on escapement. I remember seeing the add in the back of the hobby magazines and just had to have it. I also remember the old Midwest foam Cessna 150. I was so desperate to get it in the air that I balanced it took it to a big hill and threw it off the hill....didn't glide very far lol

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram-bro (Post 11935962)
I also remember the old Midwest foam Cessna 150. I was so desperate to get it in the air that I balanced it took it to a big hill and threw it off the hill....didn't glide very far lol

I didn't have the Midwest, but have the Hobby Shack one. It is powered by a Thunder Tiger .15GP. :D

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054189http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054190http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054191

(Photos courtesy of Gary Jones, MADS R/C Club, Clovis, NM.)

Greybeard1 12-11-2014 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by donnyman (Post 11935842)
I can remember when I would have given my left n.. well I wanted a bruning until I got a cad program. But I have all those goodies you mentioned and I do ink vellum copies every now and then.

Brunings have their own problems, the parallel arms are replaced with metal bands, and the ball bearings in the joints get stiff, then the band will slip and it's not holding position anymore. Easy enough to pop them out and clean them, re-lube but can cause errors if you don't see it right away. I've got Turbocad, I think 17, but the old machine is easier, usually quicker.

Rich.

Greybeard1 12-11-2014 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ram-bro (Post 11935962)
I also remember the old Midwest foam Cessna 150. I was so desperate to get it in the air that I balanced it took it to a big hill and threw it off the hill....didn't glide very far lol

I've only seen one of those, and that was interesting. A couple of guys came out to Bong with one, I stood there watching as they fired it up and launched. Let's say it climbed with authority, but as I watched, the plane was heading for a stable outside the park. Asked the kid flying how much stick time he had, his old man told me "none". "Gimme the box!" Got it turned back, it wanted to climb like crazy, pulled the throttle trying to kill the engine, it wouldn't quit, only went to about half throttle. Got it pointed back, finally, flew it around until it ran out of fuel. Cranking it around pretty good, landed within fifty feet of the field, still in one piece.

IT should have climbed, he had a .29 in it, and hadn't taken the excess incidence out, full down only leveled it off. But on the ground, that plane was flying with only two rubber bands holding the wings. Never saw them again, but they knew what had to be done before they left. My annual good deed, and I wasn't looking to do one.

Rich.

ARUP 12-11-2014 05:32 PM

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Ram-bro 12-11-2014 05:35 PM

It was the Hobby Shack foam 150. WE remember those old planes and wish we had a 2nd shot at them. The one that I wish I could get my hands on is the old Sterling Mambo Special. That was the one that my dad and I built........never flew it, traded for the AAMCO ARay I think it was......

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Greybeard1 (Post 11936005)
Asked the kid flying how much stick time he had, his old man told me "none". "Gimme the box!" Got it turned back, it wanted to climb like crazy, pulled the throttle trying to kill the engine, it wouldn't quit, only went to about half throttle. Got it pointed back, finally, flew it around until it ran out of fuel. Cranking it around pretty good, landed within fifty feet of the field, still in one piece.

IT should have climbed, he had a .29 in it, and hadn't taken the excess incidence out, full down only leveled it off. But on the ground, that plane was flying with only two rubber bands holding the wings. Never saw them again, but they knew what had to be done before they left. My annual good deed, and I wasn't looking to do one. Rich.

You jogged my memory, now I remember the Midwest foamies that included several warbirds, think P-63 Aerocobra, Mitsubishi Zero, Supermarine Spitfire, P-40 Warhawk, etc.. Good thing you got control of it, otherwise could have done some serious damage to someone else's property. Sounds like that if properly trimmed, they'd have something that would allow flight instruction, had they returned.

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram-bro (Post 11936052)
It was the Hobby Shack foam 150. WE remember those old planes and wish we had a 2nd shot at them. The one that I wish I could get my hands on is the old Sterling Mambo Special. That was the one that my dad and I built........never flew it, traded for the AAMCO ARay I think it was......

This is not the one you're looking for, but Outerzone has its cousin, the Mighty Mambo. With a 68" wingspan and semi-symmetrical airfoil, looks like it might be a smooth flier:

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5433

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054204http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054206http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2054207

GallopingGhostler 12-11-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by donnyman (Post 11935836)
Here you go, I've had this for years, I recently sold a copy. was thinking of building it. I also have 2 sixty size tiger copies of a friends kit.

Amazing that how nowadays these Sky Tigers are now being sold as cloned ARF copies from China.

Ram-bro 12-11-2014 06:18 PM

that looks like the Mambo I remember. I just might have to go buy one


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