Don Muddiman Flying Machine
Has anyone seen or know someone selling the Flying Machine kit? Have been searching for quite sometime now with no luck.
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As far as I know, no one is currently kitting the Flying Machine. But! Look [link=http://www.eastrc.org/shop.cgi/page=projects.htm/SID=1219101673.24797]here[/link] :D An ARF is coming!!!
Don still sells plans too! Mine were scratch built, one was powered with an HB .40 and the other had a Webra Speed 40 with a tuned pipe. They were both great performers, but the Webra powered one was insanely fast and agile.:D [link=http://www.eagle-i.us/fm/]The Flying Machine[/link] i have built two Flying Machines, and have been wanting to build another for a couple of years now. For those who have never seen Don Muddiman's demo, you are missing out! The Flying Machine is one of the most impressive aircraft ever created! |
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I was told an ARF was coming. Not sure if overall strength will be there. Plus I have my own color design in mind. I must agree, it is one of the greatest planes I've witnessed to date. GOT TO HAVE ONE!!!!!!!! Got a nice Dub Jett 40 with performance pipe just waiting to find a home. Thanks for the response.
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I was in a hobby store just outside of Milwaukee last year, and they had quite a few older kits on the shelves, including a Flying Machine.
I was going to buy it, just didn't get around to it. May still be available, the hobby store was called "Happy Hobby", maybe they will ship??? |
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Not sure if overall strength will be there. |
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Thanks Dave, I will check with them as soon as I'm off work.
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I hope everyone is having a nice Holiday Season! Here are a few pics of the first round prototypes of Flying Machine ARF's. Don and the East R/C gang will test on these to look for areas of weakness that need to be changed before a full production run begins. We should have these on the market by Summer 09'.
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A few more photos :)
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Oh my God... Oh my God... Oh my God!!! Put me at the front of the line!!! When do I get mine??? :D:D Need any "testers"??? I will volunteer to break, er I mean test fly them for you! I can't wait till summer, must have one NOW![>:]
Thanks, Doug Oh yeah, they look GREAT!!! |
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A few more pics.... :)
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East RC, you're killing me!!! What's it going to take to get one to me NOW???;)
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ORIGINAL: firstplaceaviator East RC, you're killing me!!! What's it going to take to get one to me NOW???;) I just uploaded more pics and info about this airplane project at: http://www.eastrc.org/estoreflyingmachine.htm Dave |
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Probably around $20k :-) Well, I guess that gives me time to save for a Jett 40L[8D] |
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ORIGINAL: firstplaceaviator Probably around $20k :-) Well, I guess that gives me time to save for a Jett 40L[8D] Dave |
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SUBSCRIBED!!!!
I want to get on the list for a Flying Machine ARF too! I LOVED my dearly departed Flying Machine! I've been wanting to see what a Webra 50 in a Flying Machine would do. With an ARF available, I finally might get to find out! |
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I saw Don Fly his Flying Machine at the Byron Originals "Striking Back" show in 1990 and purchased plans at that time. I have yet to build one; but, will some day! Tweek, I think an ARF is an excellent Idea! I'd like to be kept in the loop, also. Any idea on price? Hows about a kit version?
How does this airplane fly in comparason to the current wave of small, supposedly 3D planes? On my G-3.5 I find the profile planes to touchy in roll, for my liking. I had a couple "The HOTS" and this was a great airplane. I believe the Flying Machine is supposed to be even better thean The HOTS! Any input appreciated! |
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ORIGINAL: Mode One Any idea on price? Hows about a kit version? Also, we won't be making any kits at this time. We've asked the factory about this on several occasions prior for other aircraft we've had built, and the kit price was less than $10 different from the built price. Crazy, but that's the way it is. I'm assuming the cost of labor and covering is practically nothing in China...though that may change as well. ORIGINAL: Mode One How does this airplane fly in comparason to the current wave of small, supposedly 3D planes? Dave |
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Thanks Dave! How about in comparason to the profile planes for 3D, which seem to be so popular now like the Mojo or profile Extras, Edges etc...?
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How about in comparason to the profile planes for 3D, which seem to be so popular now like the Mojo or profile Extras, Edges etc...? The 3D profiles are extremely maneuverable at super slow speeds. Up close and on the deck maneuvers at super slow airspeeds are what makes them fun. The Flying Machine is more like an extremely maneuverable Q-500. Very fast speeds, and lightening quick maneuvers at 100+ mph. (mine was radared at 125 mph with an OS 46VF) For a more detailed description visit my Flying Machine web page at http://mypage.yhti.net/~dmcdnld/flyingmachine.htm |
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I didn't think they were in the same class. I wonder whether people will be attracted to the FM, when/if they learn it is, what would now be considered, an old design? They will be compairing it to 3D planes, as that is what is the rage now. This is more what my point was about; but, I didn't do a very good job making.
I've had a couple of The HOTS, I like these types of planes, however I started in 1969. What I like and what the younger folks like, are two different things. Not trying to rain on your parade and I feel the younger people need to try this type of plane, also. However, everyone is so 3D nuts now! |
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ORIGINAL: Mode One I didn't think they were in the same class. I wonder whether people will be attracted to the FM, when/if they learn it is, what would now be considered, an old design? They will be compairing it to 3D planes, as that is what is the rage now. This is more what my point was about; but, I didn't do a very good job making. I've had a couple of The HOTS, I like these types of planes, however I started in 1969. What I like and what the younger folks like, are two different things. Not trying to rain on your parade and I feel the younger people need to try this type of plane, also. However, everyone is so 3D nuts now! Dave |
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I think there is still enough of a demand out there to justify ARFing the Flying Machine. But I suspect customer base is going to mostly be made up of those who have been in RC long enough to have personally seen Don Muddiman perform with his Flying Machine. Those who haven't seen Don fly won't really have a clue about what sets a Flying Machine apart from the crowd, unless they've personally witnessed someone else wringing out a Flying Machine.
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But I suspect customer base is going to mostly be made up of those who have been in RC long enough to have personally seen Don Muddiman perform with his Flying Machine. |
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Firstplaceaviator said: "I will be happy to help make it go viral for you"! Never heard this expression before, what do you mean?
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Never heard this expression before, what do you mean? A viral video is a video clip that gains widespread popularity through the process of Internet sharing, typically through email or Instant messaging, blogs and other media sharing websites.[8D] |
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O.K.
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i purchased a progressive aviation kit on ebay last year and will be building it next after my current project.also lazer works in witchita falls,texas is currently laser cutting a short kit for it they did a small 25inch micro version for me for my micro dan speed electric motor.
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Rod,
Just curious, but did you buy a Flying Machine because you've already seen one fly? If not, what made you decide to buy a FM? |
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Flying Machine-this is the price for the short kit from www.lazer-works.com
$51.18 By: Don Muddiman Wingspan: 44 in. .32/.53 2 Stroke 4 ch radio |
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i saw mac hodges from andersonville ga fly one in the early 90's and it did all the stuff don could do with his when i saw the dead stop blurr of a snap and the sound it made was when i said I WANT ONEand never bought one until i saw one in kit form from progressive aviation on ebay and bid till i won it. but now you can get the short kit without the sticks eddie just cuts the hard parts out basically the parts from the plans templates from dons new cad plan set.
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oh by the way look on the misc page on lazer works web site that is where you can find the fm thier is no pic but trust me i have been dealing with these guys for a while and they do the best laser work around BAR NONE they have cut over a dozen kits for me whatever you want they can do any size
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So is there anyone out there that wants a Flying Machine who has never seen a Flying Machine fly? [sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif]
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ORIGINAL: Dave McDonald So is there anyone out there that wants a Flying Machine who has never seen a Flying Machine fly? [sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif] Dave |
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not trying to get off the fm subject but the miss martha by bob richards is as close to the fm in flight i just finished one and it does all the same stuff but i had highly moded it to do so here are some pics i hope i uploaded them right
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ORIGINAL: rod5011 not trying to get off the fm subject but the miss martha by bob richards is as close to the fm in flight i just finished one and it does all the same stuff but i had highly moded it to do so here are some pics i hope i uploaded them right Dude, that's one sick covering scheme! Looks great! Dave |
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i recently have added ceramic bearings to the engine which is an asp super red head,macs header and unmuffled pipe,dual ailerons,i shortened the ailerons leaving 1 1/2inches on the trailing tips to stop the flutter it was known to have wrapped double layer heavy fiberglass cloth around the wing bolt down block down into the fuse sides with epoxy to keep the wing from coming off on high speed snaps.i can do a full throttle verticle dive into a flat snap with no problems may post video soon...oh by the way i was probably one of the guys who asked bob about kitting the m martha because i wanted to.i am working with a china company now on arfing a 1/6th scale 96inch fiesler storch.
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Man, that Storch is one cool old bird. Other than seeing them in the mags, I've never seen an actual model of one. Dave |
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here are some pics of the prototype i recieved from the china company i had to change alot and i mean alot of things on it to make it right i am almost done with it but this is only the first one hope the cost doesnt kill the project i had sticker shock when they qoated me the 1st prototype.
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ORIGINAL: rod5011 here are some pics of the prototype i recieved from the china company i had to change alot and i mean alot of things on it to make it right i am almost done with it but this is only the first one hope the cost doesnt kill the project i had sticker shock when they qoated me the 1st prototype. Sure looks good! Yeah, it does cost a lot, and take a lot of time to get everything right. We've found it takes us about a year from prototype to production, to get the kinks worked out and ready to go. It costs a load for the prototypes, and you'll have to pass those back and forth a bit to get everything like you want for production...then production requires a substantial investment in addition. Dave |
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so when about is the release on the jerrys spoiler due? alot of guys in my club want one
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