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Old 10-17-2005, 10:50 AM
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Can anyone tell me if there's a product like "Bondo", that' s just as good and strong, but dosen't have all the health issues related to it? We have students presently using 'Bondo" to fill inlarge voids, but when their mixing it up, the air becomes unbearable. We cannot afford to properly ventilate the area, so I was hoping that there was an alternative.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:29 PM
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Bondo is basically polyester resin with fillers in it. That is why it smells so bad. As an experiment you could try mixing epoxy resin with phenolic microballoons. They make a mixture that is relatively easy to sand and you wouldn't have to put up with the smell. I get my balloons at: http://www.shopmaninc.com. They are in Florida. Regards.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:58 PM
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"Thanks Al". I will look into that.
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Be very careful. Epoxy does not emit as strong an odor as polyester does. This does NOT mean that the fumes are less toxic. Adequate ventelation is a necessary when working with epoxy as well.

I actualy use another polyester based product called Glase Coat. It sands easier than Bondo, which in turn sands much easier than epoxy/microballons. Of course, you should use dust masks when sanding either of them.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:27 PM
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Roger that. "Glaze Coat" by Evercoat. You can throw in some microballoons or cornstarch to make it fill faster and sand easier, plus a few drops of thinner to make it spread farther. Mask, gloves, and ventilation are ALWAYS required.
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2Timmer,

I use a product called "Icing" to fill any voids I may have. This is a polyester based product but for some reason adhears very well to my epoxyglass fuselages. It is super simple to sand and gives very good results.. I buy it at the local CarQuest auto parts store in the auto /paint section. As everyone here has suggested... all of these products require proper ventilation. There are many ways to accomplish this as in with temporary fans/ducting and I believe you need to look at that path. I think we are just now starting to find out what all of the "chemicals" of our youth really did to us. I don't even want to think about some of the stuff I have used without gloves/ventilation/protection... but.. I did quit smoking so.. One for me... good luck, but try the icing, much easier than Bondo, smells a little bit less.. but you still need to take care of the ventilation issue.


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Another product I in place of Bondo is Dolphin Glaze. You can get it in thick or thin. Check with your local bodyshop supply store.
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http://www.por15.co.nz/UPOL_%20Produ...phin_glaze.htm

http://www.por15.co.nz/Data%20Sheets/u-pol.htm

I've/my company bought paint stripper from these people before. Good company.
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Thanks everyone for your input it's very much appriciated. I've gone to various auto body suppliers and they don't sell 'Dolphin Glaze", so, before I go and order some on line, could someone please tell me if it's pretty smelly, and has to be mixed in a well ventilated room as there are administrative offices close by, and I don't want the fumes in their offices.
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Call their office 450-465-5887 in St. Lambert (Montreal), QC or
email at www.por15canada.com for this info.

Note: This is for the POR15 products. They should be able to help with more info though.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:57 AM
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Thanks Bruce, I'll give them a call
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Auto body stores also carry a product called Split Second Rapid Sanding Glazing Putty. Try it, You'll LOVE it.

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I know this is an older topic. I sell these products for a living. Bondo is talc powder and polyester resin. All the glazes mentioned are just spin off products of a premium resin and less talc to make them thinner and creamier. The fumes are not that harmful. I have only encountered a few guys in 33 years that were allergic to bondo type products and became a little more health issue. Wear a good dust mask . Auto body men live just as long as average from what I've seen.
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Thanks Speedster, I'm going to check into this one.
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