, the old iron and steel Rossis and Tigres were strictly loop-scavenged oldies, possibly the interim Perry Ported. The Conquest was a modern Schneurle, although I can't recall that it was ABC back then. I have a couple stashed away, but not close to the computer in here.
Incidentally, is anyone else getting constant "Threat" warnings from this site? Avast doesn't think very highly of the place!