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Old 01-18-2012, 09:20 AM
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Just need some opinions on the enya .09.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:45 AM
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I had one in the early 1970's.  Broke it in and got about 10 flights before it wore out. Never bought another Enya again.  I got a couple of free ones since though.  The .35 is ok, the .19 isn't.
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I have 6 they date from 1966-2010. They all are excellent and will swing an 8X4 with authority. They like the big prop better than a 7X4. Not many .09 engines out there that will swing an 8X4 other than a diesel PAW.

Use at least 20% all castor oil in your fuel. Here is 5 of them. One is the newer Quicky with 2 ball races and the one with the red thrust plate is a rear ball race.
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A nice power plan, the Enya .09 has a lapped piston/sleeve so requires fuel with castor. Once broken-in they last forever!
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My Enya .19 flies a .35 size Ringmaster with authority on 52' lines.

If someone wears one out in 10 flights, then they were running it scorching hot lean.
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Just need some opinions on the enya .09.
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I like 'em.

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It may have been lean at the end of the tank, but so were all the other motors I ran.  Cox stuff, Supertiger G.15's, Rossi's etc. Some are still working now 30 years later.  I don't know what kind of oil we had then.   I know there was a lot of Apollo fuel and some Ucon oil stuff. I was like 12 years old then but knew about needle settings.  The .35 is ok though.

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Just need some opinions on the enya .09.
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Not much experience with Enyas as during my days with glow engines, late .40s to now, the Enya never impressed me in the power for any competition, however as I did acquire several for various sport CL and RC, I will say this. Everyone I ever had I bought 2nd Hand. Every one in any sport airplane, trainer, or scale model was very dependable, and ran fine for the job I gave it. When I sold them off they were still easy to start, and never had any problems running well.
I have known modelers that only wanted Enyas. Back in my days of sport flying, the Enya being a tad pricey for a really non-competitive engine kept me away from them when buying something new. Giving the devil its due, one friend flew a big "Flying Boat" off water with an Enya .60 (1970s) and it was equal to any Super Tigre or O.S. of equal size. As mentioned by someone above it did like a big prop which was a +.
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Review of the Enya 09-11, Nov. 1960 Aeromodeller. 0.115 BHP at 12,800 RPM on no nitro fuel. 8 x 4 props 10,000-10,600 RPM.
7 x 4 topflite 11,800 RPM, 7 x 6 topflite 10,400. I have a couple of the earlier model. I plan to fly them on Sig Champion 10% nitro, 20% oil half synthetic and half castor. Probably start out with a 7 x 5 APC.
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Back in the 60s my first non cox engine was the .09 cl engine pictured in gcbpost #6. Tehn I owned several .35 non ball bearingcl engines and 1 .29 rc engine. Really liked them. Then I went to O.S and Super Tiger when the LHS stopped carring them and carried the others instead. The guys I flew with thought that the Enya's were just a little stronger than the OS's, but that was strictly subjective.
Thanks for posting that picture gcb. Old memories
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I did like the exhaust on the other side for priming, but thought the Cox stuff was much better.  I still have a Tee Dee .09 of almost the same vintage. It does 16,400 with a 7-4 prop.(Master Airscrew wasn't available then.  Don't have any Top Flights that size anymore)  I don't know if the 11,800 rpm was with a muffler in 1960 for the enya.  My AP .09 is 16,900 with no muffler and 15,200 with muffler for more comparisons, and a lot of people don't think much of those for some reason.  It is ABC and BB so it will take a lean run too, well once in a while.  Oh and a Thunder Tiger .10 I got 13,500 with muffler.  The carb was a fairly small bore I thought.  Didn't try the LA .10 yet, but my LA .15 is a screamer kind of, at 17,400 with a 7-5 and the FP .15 @ 16,300.  It is too cold and windy to fly so I ran up some stuff lately. The Rossi 15 is 19,000 and the Cox Conquest .15 is 19,500 all on the same 7-5 MA prop.
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aspeed what nitro % were you using for t he Rossi 15and the Cox Conquest .15.
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10% homebrew. about 15% klotz, 5% castor.  I think the Rossi would do better with a control line carb.  This one looks like a Perry with a .200" hole and a spigot sticking inside.  Likely a series 1 or 2.  I didn't try my piped one because I changed so much on it and the 7-5 wouldn't come on.  It only went 15,300 without a pipe.  I didn't try the Fora because they have the big prop nut and I didn't want to ruin a good prop for something that isn't designed for it.  I think the F2D props are maybe a bit too small but the 7-5 is a bit too big.  Since someone is interested? My AP .15 was 15,700 stock no muffler and 17,200 with a control line carb at .240" and a little grinding on the crank which didn't do much.  The ASP .15 was 17,600 and 18,500 with the bigger carb.  I ran out of 10% and some numbers are with 5% but that isn't much different. The Rossi was 5% as were the modified AP ASP #'s.  The LA .15 suprised me the most with a boost port missing and no ball bearings, it went pretty good.  I didn't make a big control line carb for it but it would surely do better. I want to do some .049 stuff but don't have any new good stuff like Fora or Picco or the Toko or whatever it is called. Just CS, normal and piped, TeeDee,Baby Bee, Stels, Ame, Norvel, McCoy, and OK Cub.  One of them is new and won't even run!
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The older Enyas take a long time to break in and I suspect this has a lot to do with the "don't like" and "low on power" type comments. The reality is that they were better engineerd than most comparable types and they are extremely powerful. Enya never went in for the HP bragging in their adverts. I consistently got far more bhp than Enya claimed for their power outputs.
Anyone that wore them out in 10 flights, either didn't run them in properly before peaking them out in an aircraft OR didn't follow the fuel recommendations that Enya quote. I run mine on 25% oil to be on the safe side.
They are pricey because they are better and better built. There never was a good distributor in the US (or for that matter UK) who pushed their product in the manner of the OS distributers. So people always considered them second rate. Enyas are simply better than OS, even now. They just never get the credit, because they are not pushed on the consumer.

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I've got a few 09-IVs and am a big fan. They do take a bit of running-in, but it's worth the effort. Power is better than some would think - from memory I saw about 15200 on a 7x4, with 10% nitro. Obviously this isn't up at TD 09 levels, but is still within ~200 rpm of an OS 10FSR, and would likely be better than it on an 8x4. The Enya is also a nicer-handling engine than the OS, IMHO.

I've got one of mine in a small CL stunter, and have found it'll do a really nice 4/2 break, much like a tiny Max S 35. I recently dragged it out after not touching it for 6 months. Just filled it up, opened the needle 2 turns, started 2nd flick, and got a perfect run without any further adjustment.

Excellent engines, very underrated, and not really all that expensive. I'd get myself an 09 Quicky, but just can't justify any more 09s at the moment.
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Just need some opinions on the enya .09.
I also have several Enya .09's. Most are controlline but they scream! Ihave two on an Ace AeroCommander Shrike. Ialso have one ona Hobby Shack (atleast it was when Ibought the plane) "Real Thing" and another on ascratch built Model Builder "DragonFly". Most of my .09's are from the mid 70's but not all. Iwould like to find rc carbs to go on the controlline Enya .09's as I do love the motor.
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Carbs from Enya direct.

https://cs206.xbit.jp/~w041133/store...roducts_id=403

$ 27.30 USD
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For 3 bucks more you can get an ASP .12.  ABC BB. with a carb and muffler. or an AP .09 or .15 same thing but rear exhaust.  Jayseas why do you need opinions?  buying one or?
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For 3 bucks more you can get an ASP .12. ABC BB. with a carb and muffler. .........
If this isn't a typo, point me at it !!!

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The only difference is 10 years from now the Enya .09 will still start by hand while the ASP .12 will be worn out completely 6 years prior.
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Hobbypartz has them on sale last I checked except the .09 and .06. and the bluehead .15.  They seem to sell out fast. Hobby People or Hobby Club might carry them too but likely cost a bit more.  I had bad luck with my Enya, and think an ABC will take lean runs better but can't say how long they last.  I only have about an hour on my AP .15 with a few lean runs to get tach readings and some little props revving higher than it should. I can see replacing the rod if I continue going over 25,000 RPM for any time but think at normal revs they will last as good as anything else.  If not, then you got your money's worth and you spend another $30. Other people seem to talk well of ASP Sanye AP Magnum which are the same company as well as some of the Enya buffs. 
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Carbs from Enya direct.
$ 27.30 USD
I did not pay that much for any of the entire motors so paying $27.50 just for the carb is not in my budget. Ikeep looking for reasonable carbs that someone might be selling used.



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For 3 bucks more you can get an ASP .12. ABC BB. with a carb and muffler. or an AP .09 or .15 same thing but rear exhaust.
Ilove my Enya .09's because they have kept going for decades. They may not be the best engine or the fastest but they have certainly been woth the money that Ipaid for them. There are better engines out there but these were the best bang for the buck at the time that Ibought them.

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For my purposes, I do not need fastest nor most powerful so that is not a consideration.

i heard that one of the reasons Enya has not been widely accepted in the USA is that the former importer never pushed them. I understand that they only stocked parts for the most popular sizes so parts were hard to come by.

Most that have them like them. At least I do.

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Just found a container full of my .09 engines and have six Enya .09 engines.

Enya .09 original with right-hand exhaust
Enya .09-II Std.
Enya .09-II R/C
Enya .09-III Std.
Enya .09-III R/C with carb and connected exhaust baffle
Enya .09-III R/C with carb and muffler

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How do you wear out an Enya engine. They last a long long time.
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