Register

If this is your first visit, please click the Sign Up now button to begin the process of creating your account so you can begin posting on our forums! The Sign Up process will only take up about a minute of two of your time.

Results 1 to 11 of 11

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Temple, TX
    Posts
    32
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    Old control line C-47

    55 year old control line C-47. Hey guys I thought some of you might like to see my pride and joy! this plane was built and flown by my good friend Bill Murry. He started on the olane in 1957 while stationed in Japan. He finished it in early 1958 and fly it in the first ( and maybe only) Japan/USA championship. He had a plaque signed by the priminister of japan. It was originally done in American Airlines paint scheme, but due to not having the proper material to cut the lettering from ( the stuff he used kept peeling up thru the clear coat. So he changed it to the Navy scheme that is now on the plane. This is the original paint and has not been redone or even touched up. I have several of his trophies from the King Orange in Florida and some from Washington DC where he was stationed from the late 50s til 1965. The plane was last flown in 1963. It has Enya .19 engines that he picked from the Enya brothers at the factory in Japan. The plane has exhaust throttles that were made by a machinist on the military base in Japan. Bill went to see if the Enya factory could make these, but was told that it would not work!
    And no it is not for sale
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Lj23997.jpg 
Views:	7 
Size:	97.6 KB 
ID:	1740656   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Zu66141.jpg 
Views:	9 
Size:	144.8 KB 
ID:	1740657   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jo29379.jpg 
Views:	9 
Size:	119.2 KB 
ID:	1740658  

  2. #2
    stuntflyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Pacific Palisades, CA
    Posts
    1,756
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Neato! Super DC-3?
    I like the left handed engine rotation, and custom throttles. Very nice.
    Chris...

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    SydneyNSW, AUSTRALIA
    Posts
    581
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Areally goodmodel, I'd like a closer look at the cockpit detail.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Temple, TX
    Posts
    32
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Thanks, Bill passed away a couple of years ago at 92. The plane is scratch built from 3 view drawings. It has Nav lights with the switch and battery box is inside the door, The outer wing panels are removable. Before he gave me the plane he cut the flying wires and there is no way to get to the bell crank without cutting into the fuse. the cockpit has a little detail, but there is no way to take pictures, those windsheilds are only 1 inch high. I have kept the motors free and lubed I am sure they would run. The span is about 63 inches.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Sydney, AUSTRALIA
    Posts
    465
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Super aeroplane and superb craftsmanship.

    It's probably a good thing it can never fly again. After such a long time there is no way of knowing how the structure is under the paint, and the last thing anyone would want is for a failure while flying.

    This way we can all enjoy it for many more years to come.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Regards

    G
    Regards
    Greg

    Elwood: They're not gonna catch us. We're on a mission from God.

  6. #6
    combatpigg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    arlington, WA
    Posts
    17,721
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    That is just incredible..! It really does belong in a museum.

    I got a little chuckle when I heard that the builder snipped the wires before passing it on......it would be very bad MOJO to rig it back up......
    WHO GUNNA FEED MAW KEEEIDS..???

  7. #7
    JohnBuckner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Kingman, AZ
    Posts
    9,286
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Hey ron first off welcome to RCU and thinks for the pictures of a wonderful airplane. I am sure your friend would have been rightfully proud.

    I do have a hunch though that in its last configuration as it is now, It was not intended as C-47 at all. The original scale documentation required for the contest may have cleared that up but I think it was intended as a Douglas R4D-8 or the civil 'Super DC-3'. The indicatiors for that are the squared off wing tips and most especially the tall squared vertical along with the broader horizontal tail and agine squared.

    Not to be critical but just to let you know if you did not already and of course I agree with the other posters perhaps even more so since controlline is ingrained into my brain

    John
    \"Keep your controllines tight\"

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Temple, TX
    Posts
    32
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Yes you are correct, the plane was first built as a Super DC-3 with airline markings, Bill was upset about the lettering peeling up and wanted to change the paint, He noticed three of the Navy R4D s on base and borrowed a camera to take pictures, the paint was changed when he returned to the states in 1958. I was not aware of the R4D designation and thought C-47 was the military designation. I do have an envelope with the documentation that he used, but I have not looked at it in years.

  9. #9
    JohnBuckner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Kingman, AZ
    Posts
    9,286
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    Very cool ron, that original documentation packet is what makes it quite special.

    Thanks agine

    John
    \"Keep your controllines tight\"

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH,
    Posts
    803
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    C-47 is Army Air Corp designation; R4D is Navy/Marine Corps designation.

  11. #11
    JohnBuckner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Kingman, AZ
    Posts
    9,286
    Gallery
    My Gallery
    Models
    My Models
    Ratings
    My Feedback

    RE: Old control line C-47

    I do not beleve there was ever an Army Air corp or later Air Force equivilent of the R4D-8 and it is not the same airplane with the drastically redesigned tail assembly horizontal and vertical, longer fuse, larger engines, squared off wing tips and fully faired landing gear (no longer exposed) although there was a civil equivilent called the Super DC-3 for a short period.

    The model which this thread is about was modeled as an R4D-8 and not a C-47 this becomes obvious if you look carefully at the tail section in the pictures of the model as well as the wingtips.

    John
    \"Keep your controllines tight\"


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:28 AM.

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.