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    Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    A few weeks ago I took it upon myself to clean out the Club's storage container,, For year this poor ole trainer has been locked up with no one to give it any love,, So sad, no one even remembers who it belonged to. Just think it was someone's pride and joy at one time

    Many would say "why bother", but I say why not?

    Anyone have tips on removing this gooey stick on covering??


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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Yes. FireSorry someone had to be the first. When you say sticky, do you mean it's some kind of adhesive covering like vinyl? I would try heat from a heat gun just enough to warm it up and peel. Thats how I remove monokote, and then some acetone and sanding. But there's always fire
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Heat is a no,, tried it,, it just shrivels up and the glue stays on the wood

    Lacquer thinner seams to work, might have to break out the big guns, yes Acetone. But I'll have to take it upstairs to the garage for that,, My wife will kill me if I smell up the house

    Fire? No sense of adventure eh? Besides, I have some real ugly Monkote just waiting for a good home


    Actually got a few patches to peel off cleanly,, very few
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Yeh, I love a good adventure but sometimes a mans got to know his limitationsHow about one of those wood pecker things for monokote or the thing they use to poke holes in wall paper. Then you can get the solvent under the covering better.
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Yeah, spent about 20 minutes peeling and wiping and scraping the goo,, still leaves a non sandable residue, not sure Monokote will ever stick again,

    Your Fire Idea might be the way to go
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    You might have to stick the nose into some kitty litter foir a couple of weeks to draw any old oil and fuel out.

    If you have a Clubhouse, this could be a good time to put on a covering demo for other guys who haven't tried it - providing that you have power (or a generator) for lights and irons.

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    It's not oil residue that's the issue,, it's the glue from the sticky backed covering mixed with the oil into a gooey mess.

    I'm going to test out a small section that I've gotten pretty clean,, if monokote doesn't stick, it's into the Fire after all
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Pretty sure Mineral Spirits or Turpentine will get rid of it, question is whether they (especially Turpentine) will leave a residue on the wood that monokote will not stick to.
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Hi Scale,

    Yup, I saw what you were getting at... I was only pointing out that you might also have to get the oil out of the nose. I also vote for using lacquer thinner for that sticky adhesive. Have you tried it yet?

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Yes, Lacquer thinner softens it enough to scrape it off, but still leave a residue,, just doesn't get enough off to leave a sand-able surface, I'll try some acetone next
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    It has been mentioned someplace that after getting the wood as clean as possible to use Balsa-rite or Stickit or a similar product. I've read there is no issue with ****coat adhering after the treatment.

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Yes clean it with acetone. Then give a coat ortwoof Balsarite and you will be good to go. Let the reserection begin.lol

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Ultracote should stick to it. I have a plane I got used that has the same issue. The covering is something like Coverite fabric, and the coloring is gooey and tacky, and sticks to the wood when you peel it off. I used laquer thinner to remove it from the covering before I pulled it off the plane, but it still left a mess underneath.  I was able to recover it though with Ultracoat, and it stuck well, but since Ultra is also semitransparent, you can see patches of the other color under it.  Since I used basically the same color Ultra as what was on the plane, its not a big deal, it just has patches of lighter color where I couldn't get the crud off.  

    One thing I found that reduces the tackiness is Simple Green. A rub down with that made it almost non sticky. 
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Well what ever it is, it's came off the wing much easier with only couple spots where the rubber bands were that are messy.

    The scary thing is how easy the Aileron hinges pulled out [X(]

    So clean they are still usable, one half of one was glued in well,, that's something I guess.

    Gotta love ARFs
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    I've gotten all the covering pulled, I did a test patch around the nose and it did stick, but not great, more wood prep is needed.

    Found a broken area on the bottom of the fuse, an ares where the goo is real bad and the wood is going the wrong direction really anyway, plan is to remove and replace with fresh balsa, also adding gear support plates forward and aft for float/ski mounts and a taildrager config.
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    You're gonna need a new handle. That thing is definitely NOT scale

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Not yet,, I have ideas
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Free plane,, come and get it.. Yes I'm not intereting in finishing
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    ohh come on
    It will be the perfect "scale trainer". You know, there is awlays some on here looking for free stuff. you could donate it.of course most newcomes cant cover, so you'll have to do it.

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Probably true,, a few guys on RCG actually asked if I'd ship it,, LOL
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    I think the covering I had on an old ARF is the same thing or very close to what is on yours. Really left a nasty mess.

    I found that nitrate dope thiner cleaned up the goo real good. took patience, wear some nitrile gloves, and do it outside. Bad fumes.

    Paint stripper might be a last resort option.

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary


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    Nothing nags a REAL MAN'S ego worse than an unfinished project! Finish it and give it to some kid if you don't want it anymore!!!!
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    RE: Rescuing Patches from Solitary

    Tempting, but driving from Cincy to the lake for a dirty old trainer is just a tad too much.
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