No more ARF's for me
#327
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Yep, and he has a few more for me too. There is a loud yellow electric 3D, popular one, but dont recall the name.
I did say I would not BUY another ARF, and I mean it, but if someone GAVE me an ARF, well, different story!
I fell guilty taking it though, but after he told me his nephew would just sell it to make a profit, where I would FLY the dang thing, I dont feel so guilty.
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RE: No more ARF's for me
So if I understand correctly the phrase " No more arf's for me" was not totally an accurate statement.
Would that not be something like " A lie is only a lie if one get's caught".
BUSTED!
Would that not be something like " A lie is only a lie if one get's caught".
BUSTED!
#329
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Would you turn down a $3000 plane if it was offered to you? What I really want is the engine, its a DA 100cc twin. I could never afford buying something like this, and any ARF I could afford, I would rather build from a kit. IOW I would not buy another ARF that I could build myself. The plane I got for Free is very well made, outclassing what is available at the LHS in the size planes I fly.
But if someone is going to give me a top of the line plane, I'll take it.
#332
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Damn straight! $999.99 engine! The plane is actually a very nice plane. It feels very fragile, yet strong all at the same time. It has all the electronics in it too, duralite power panel, JR8611 servos, JR 10 channel RX, some strange little boxes inline with the aileron servos. Going to have to replace hte battery packs though, they haven't had a charge in them since 2004.
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Yes! Someone was just playing with you. I feel the same way about Arf's. I also feel the same way about profitable free. Shoot even excessively cheap for that matter.
#338
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqVe9sL1SA&sns=em
foam , its not just for beer anymore !
no guesswork , no "is it glued" if it looks week you add carbon fiber rails , if it crashes its rebuild like a puzzel , if you want $3000 engine sound add a sound module for $200 and you will sound better then a radial , and best part is wing loading , you cant beat the wing loading and how they fly
foam , its not just for beer anymore !
no guesswork , no "is it glued" if it looks week you add carbon fiber rails , if it crashes its rebuild like a puzzel , if you want $3000 engine sound add a sound module for $200 and you will sound better then a radial , and best part is wing loading , you cant beat the wing loading and how they fly
#339
RE: No more ARF's for me
Somewhere in the back of my mind I remember Sig turning down a shipment of ARFs due to poor quality. Any chance you got one of those. It seems the shipper that got stuck with them tried to sell'em. This was a long time ago and i never saw any follow up info on the incident.
#340
RE: No more ARF's for me
ORIGINAL: acdii
Yep, and he has a few more for me too. There is a loud yellow electric 3D, popular one, but dont recall the name.
Yep, and he has a few more for me too. There is a loud yellow electric 3D, popular one, but dont recall the name.
I did say I would not BUY another ARF, and I mean it, but if someone GAVE me an ARF, well, different story!
I fell guilty taking it though, but after he told me his nephew would just sell it to make a profit, where I would FLY the dang thing, I dont feel so guilty.
BUSTED! You are so busted it is not funny...
Anyway, welcome to th ARF using brotherhood, and good luck with your new ARF!
Gerry
#341
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Of course I could ALWAYS sell off the plane, keep the gear and BUILD a GS Corsair from the proceeds. That DA100 would fly a GS Corsair very nicely too.
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Here's the OP....bolded for convienence, LOL.
So you will take free ARFs? You get the engine too? Just call it what it is.... a RTF & BNF.
ORIGINAL: acdii
Ihad a SIG 4*120 ARF, after a few flights I noticed the wings flapping, and found that the spars were loose inside the wings, and stripped the covering off, squeezed them in position and reglued them all, using CA and Titebond, then recovered them. They appeared to be sturdy with no more flex in them, so today Iflew it. Had it up for 15 minutes, gentle turns, no hotdogging, a few loops some rolls mostly half throttle flying, landed, checked the wings and they still appeared to be tight, no flex detected. Iput my Kadet up for a test flight after doing the repairs fom when I had a mishap with a strong cross wind that took me by surprise that flipped it on landing and broke it in half. It flew great, but with the Magnum on it instead of the OS as I couldnt find a new motor mount that matched the old one, but the Magnum happened to be a perfect fit. It flies a little quicker with the OS, but the Magnum is still new, so give it some time.
Anyhow, after Iwas done with the Kadet, and very relieved it still flies well, and lands well, Irestarted my 4* and took off, flying around, and had really relaxed with it and was finally comfortable with the plane where I can relax and enjoy it, and about 12 minutes into the flight, doing large loops, some rols, and few stall turns, hammer heads, etc, mostly at half throttle, and about a minute before I was planning to land, the right wing snapped off, Ihad just pulled up to start a loop when it went Craks, and I saw it flutter off, and the plane start its death spiral. It was done for I had no control over it, so I killed the ignition and spotted where it went into the corn field. I packed everything up and went searching. I am definately getting lost plane alarms for my planes, what a PITA. Ieventually found it right about where I thought it would be, but have not found the right wing, got dark so will go looking for it tomorrow, and hopefully get it before tehy harvest the corn and hope the servo is still good. The one in the left wing appears to have been stripped, so verdict still out on that, but the rest of the gear looks OK, the ignition module got lost somewhere on the walk back through the corn field. The only part still in OK shape is the tail, but its pretty much a lost cause.
This will be my last ARF, after this I just dont trust something that Ididn't build. My Kadet has been thrown around the sky much harder than I did the 4*, and has been smacked into things a few times, and not once did I ever have to worry if the wing would snap off. The construction on the ARF is not very good, the spar does not go all the way to the center, but ends at a plywood box that the aluminum joiner slides into. It looks like that is exactly where the wing snapped off. Iwont know for sure until I find the wing. Now heres the weird thing, the wing that had the most cracks in it and needed the most repairs was not the wing that snapped off. The broken one just needed some reglueing at all the joints, and looked like it was fine.
Ireally liked flying the 4*, but after this I dont know if I will build another one, or something else, but it wont be an ARF, it will be one I build that I know wont break apart under mild aerobatics. It had a couple minor dings hitting corn stalks, once on take off and once on landing, but at very slow speeds, the first one cracked the leading edge at the last rib, the second one knocked the tail wheel off, but the wing was fine. Neither of those should have caused any damage to the spars, at least they would not have done so on my Kadet, but in any case, I am not too thrilled with this.
Ihad a SIG 4*120 ARF, after a few flights I noticed the wings flapping, and found that the spars were loose inside the wings, and stripped the covering off, squeezed them in position and reglued them all, using CA and Titebond, then recovered them. They appeared to be sturdy with no more flex in them, so today Iflew it. Had it up for 15 minutes, gentle turns, no hotdogging, a few loops some rolls mostly half throttle flying, landed, checked the wings and they still appeared to be tight, no flex detected. Iput my Kadet up for a test flight after doing the repairs fom when I had a mishap with a strong cross wind that took me by surprise that flipped it on landing and broke it in half. It flew great, but with the Magnum on it instead of the OS as I couldnt find a new motor mount that matched the old one, but the Magnum happened to be a perfect fit. It flies a little quicker with the OS, but the Magnum is still new, so give it some time.
Anyhow, after Iwas done with the Kadet, and very relieved it still flies well, and lands well, Irestarted my 4* and took off, flying around, and had really relaxed with it and was finally comfortable with the plane where I can relax and enjoy it, and about 12 minutes into the flight, doing large loops, some rols, and few stall turns, hammer heads, etc, mostly at half throttle, and about a minute before I was planning to land, the right wing snapped off, Ihad just pulled up to start a loop when it went Craks, and I saw it flutter off, and the plane start its death spiral. It was done for I had no control over it, so I killed the ignition and spotted where it went into the corn field. I packed everything up and went searching. I am definately getting lost plane alarms for my planes, what a PITA. Ieventually found it right about where I thought it would be, but have not found the right wing, got dark so will go looking for it tomorrow, and hopefully get it before tehy harvest the corn and hope the servo is still good. The one in the left wing appears to have been stripped, so verdict still out on that, but the rest of the gear looks OK, the ignition module got lost somewhere on the walk back through the corn field. The only part still in OK shape is the tail, but its pretty much a lost cause.
This will be my last ARF, after this I just dont trust something that Ididn't build. My Kadet has been thrown around the sky much harder than I did the 4*, and has been smacked into things a few times, and not once did I ever have to worry if the wing would snap off. The construction on the ARF is not very good, the spar does not go all the way to the center, but ends at a plywood box that the aluminum joiner slides into. It looks like that is exactly where the wing snapped off. Iwont know for sure until I find the wing. Now heres the weird thing, the wing that had the most cracks in it and needed the most repairs was not the wing that snapped off. The broken one just needed some reglueing at all the joints, and looked like it was fine.
Ireally liked flying the 4*, but after this I dont know if I will build another one, or something else, but it wont be an ARF, it will be one I build that I know wont break apart under mild aerobatics. It had a couple minor dings hitting corn stalks, once on take off and once on landing, but at very slow speeds, the first one cracked the leading edge at the last rib, the second one knocked the tail wheel off, but the wing was fine. Neither of those should have caused any damage to the spars, at least they would not have done so on my Kadet, but in any case, I am not too thrilled with this.
#344
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RE: No more ARF's for me
Well my 4* is NOT an ARF! I wont BUY an arf, but if offered for free, hell yah I'll take it! If it blows apart in midair, no money out of my pocket, is there? If I buy one, well, then spank me.
Here, let me be more specific to my original post. I will NOT buy another ARF.
K?
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RE: No more ARF's for me
I just thought of another way around the, "I will not buy another ARF" thing. You could just tell the person to GIVE you an ARF and you can just GIVE them some money and that would technically NOT be buying an ARF.
It is a win/win for all parties! [8D]
It is a win/win for all parties! [8D]
#348
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RE: No more ARF's for me
No money has left my pocket for this plane I have received. Swear on my Kadets life!
However, after looking this plane over, technically it is a kit. Not much different than a preskinned wing, and fiberglass fuse, it just so happens to have already been painted. All the internals have to be installed. My Kadet was Almost Ready to Fly when I pulled it out of the box, just needed to be glued together. Now that I have seen what a high dollar plane looks like, no comparison to those things that come in a box at the LHS. I think the wing has a total of 7 parts, and is all fused together in a mold, not built up with hot glue and covering stuck on. It is impressive, but I would not buy one, I can build it for less.
#350
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ORIGINAL: hairy46
Well you out of the I hate arfs club and in the I will take anyting as long as its free club
Well you out of the I hate arfs club and in the I will take anyting as long as its free club