4 Star no more
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4 Star no more
OK, not sure if I'll post any pics of this because this one hurts. I was flying my 4 Star 60 for the first time in about 5 years. In the past several weeks I had worked on the engine, checked over the plane for any problems, checked and replaced the batteries, and balanced the plane. Today I took it out and because the weather was good decided to fly it. Did all the pre-flight checks. Checked the throws on the flight controls, range checked the receiver, checked the batteries, etc. Fuled the plane, started the engine, checked the tuning of the engine, taxied and took off. Flight started out good. The plane was needing a lot of up elevator and I was working on trimming it out. I had just made one lap and was turning the plane around and figuring out how I was going to work the trim on the next pass. I was a little low, but not bad and started the right turn and climb. The plane did not seem to want to climb, then it rolled sharply to the left, then to the right, then left and went nose down into the pasture. When I got to the scene of the crash I knew the plane was done. the fuselage was broken in at least three places with a few of the frames totally destroyed. There was some damage to the right wingtip, but most of the wing was in good condition. The prop was sheered off right at the hub. Not the engine, just the prop.
I really do not have any idea why this plane crashed. I can't think of anything I did to make the plane crash. I know it didn't stall because the airspeed was good. The only things I can think of is either the receiver failed or I got "shot down". I'm still using 72Mhz radios so this is possible. My mother-in-law who was watching said a crop duster flew over a minute or two after the crash. I also know I was on the low rate because the previous turns were normal. I'm now planning on moving up to a spread spectrum type radio for the future. It also makes my choice for the next kit easier. I need another 4 Star 60.
I really do not have any idea why this plane crashed. I can't think of anything I did to make the plane crash. I know it didn't stall because the airspeed was good. The only things I can think of is either the receiver failed or I got "shot down". I'm still using 72Mhz radios so this is possible. My mother-in-law who was watching said a crop duster flew over a minute or two after the crash. I also know I was on the low rate because the previous turns were normal. I'm now planning on moving up to a spread spectrum type radio for the future. It also makes my choice for the next kit easier. I need another 4 Star 60.
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I feel your pain. Last year my 4*120 snapped a wing off in mid air, and came spiraling down to become one with the earth.
Since it was an ARF and a defect in the build, SIG replaced it with a kit. I finally finished it a few weeks ago and flew it. Flies Great, but a pain to land because it floats, and there is corn on 3 sides.
Better, stronger faster and more nimble, the New 4*120
Since it was an ARF and a defect in the build, SIG replaced it with a kit. I finally finished it a few weeks ago and flew it. Flies Great, but a pain to land because it floats, and there is corn on 3 sides.
Better, stronger faster and more nimble, the New 4*120
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Sounds like a stall. As flight crew you know you have no idea what the airspeed was but you had good ground speed. Not the same thing.
where was your throttle stick? And how was the engine noise, not climbing, rocking wings, after or while in a bank is classic. If it ever happens again fire wall the throttles figure out the problem later. Sorry for the loss
where was your throttle stick? And how was the engine noise, not climbing, rocking wings, after or while in a bank is classic. If it ever happens again fire wall the throttles figure out the problem later. Sorry for the loss
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I planted mine on Friday, I grabbed it by the rudder to re-position it down the footpath runway and the rudder cracked loose at the base of the fuse, now only being held by monokote. I wanted to fly so bad and all I had was a few T pins in my flight box, I pushed 3 pins at 45 degree angles to stabilize it and made a couple easy no frills flights, by the 3rd flight I had totally forgotton the rudder and pulled a nose down spiral, went to pull out and actually heard the rudder slam down as she continued straight down into the turf 10 feet away from me., DAG NABBITT I hate when that happens!
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Good thing no one was around when you planted your plane. Flying an airplane that is not airworthy is dangerous.
food for thought here if you have a problem on the ground it only gets worse in the air
food for thought here if you have a problem on the ground it only gets worse in the air
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My 4 Star 60.
Field was a bit wet, likely saved me from worse damage.
On take off roll hit a puddle
Got through it ok and got into the air.
Coming in for a landing, about 3 feet up and moving slowly, caught a sudden, strong cross wind, too low and slow to recover, pushed the plane into the ground, broke off the main gear, not much other damage, back flying the next weekend.
Plane has been a warrior, since then.
Field was a bit wet, likely saved me from worse damage.
On take off roll hit a puddle
Got through it ok and got into the air.
Coming in for a landing, about 3 feet up and moving slowly, caught a sudden, strong cross wind, too low and slow to recover, pushed the plane into the ground, broke off the main gear, not much other damage, back flying the next weekend.
Plane has been a warrior, since then.
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I planted mine on Friday, I grabbed it by the rudder to re-position it down the footpath runway and the rudder cracked loose at the base of the fuse, now only being held by monokote. I wanted to fly so bad and all I had was a few T pins in my flight box, I pushed 3 pins at 45 degree angles to stabilize it and made a couple easy no frills flights, by the 3rd flight I had totally forgotton the rudder and pulled a nose down spiral, went to pull out and actually heard the rudder slam down as she continued straight down into the turf 10 feet away from me., DAG NABBITT I hate when that happens!
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Yep, I have found that the lower your chances are of hitting something, the more likely it will be hit. I have taken a wing off a SeaHawk through a goal post, have nailed a stop sign with a spacewalker, took off the wing of a tower trainer on the wind sock pole on a deadstick landing, and took the engine and landing gear off a Trainer Forty on a top fence rail.
On a more relevent note, I lost my Goofy pilotted 4-star 40 due to a low rx battery. The plane just started flying around goofy like and then finally hit the ground. The plane was beyond repair but I still have half the wing in the garage.
On a more relevent note, I lost my Goofy pilotted 4-star 40 due to a low rx battery. The plane just started flying around goofy like and then finally hit the ground. The plane was beyond repair but I still have half the wing in the garage.
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Yep, I have found that the lower your chances are of hitting something, the more likely it will be hit. I have taken a wing off a SeaHawk through a goal post, have nailed a stop sign with a spacewalker, took off the wing of a tower trainer on the wind sock pole on a deadstick landing, and took the engine and landing gear off a Trainer Forty on a top fence rail.
On a more relevent note, I lost my Goofy pilotted 4-star 40 due to a low rx battery. The plane just started flying around goofy like and then finally hit the ground. The plane was beyond repair but I still have half the wing in the garage.
On a more relevent note, I lost my Goofy pilotted 4-star 40 due to a low rx battery. The plane just started flying around goofy like and then finally hit the ground. The plane was beyond repair but I still have half the wing in the garage.
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So far I have only hit the side of a barn with a plane. does hitting another plane count though? I hit one 3 times, twice with the same plane.
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http://youtu.be/Y90vnB6gUME
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Man that is a bummer .I have been flying the crap out of my 4 star ME 109 bash this year.. So sweet on electric.
Freddy, you aren't gonna finish it up and fly it? Keep that baby for backup just in case !
Freddy, you aren't gonna finish it up and fly it? Keep that baby for backup just in case !
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Is the kit 4 sale? I'm not a fan ARFs and their built in sloppy workmanship and inherent weakness from people who don't give a crap about what they are doing. Although if I were in a Chinese prison factory building toys for rich people I most likely would not give a crap either. The only way to get a good plane is to do-it-yourself IMHO. Let me know if your interested in selling the kit.