TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
02-07-2004, 02:20 PM
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TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
my trainer caught fire today!!
first of all i was doing a engine test run, but i didn't start. then i realised the liquid coming out the silencer. it was odourless, so i didn't know what it was (any ideas). it was getting dark, so i bought the plane inside to empty the contents. then every thing started leaking. so i put a cloth under the engine. Soon it was filled with fuel. (on my bench was a small gas tank, white sprit, a gallon of fuel and some high flammable lubricating oil. I noted my mini blowtorch in the way, and picked it up to move it. BANG, there was a small explosion and the cloth went on fire, UNDER the nose. i grabbed the fire extinguisher and used it, covering everything This should be a warning to every one!
What do you think
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first of all i was doing a engine test run, but i didn't start. then i realised the liquid coming out the silencer. it was odourless, so i didn't know what it was (any ideas). it was getting dark, so i bought the plane inside to empty the contents. then every thing started leaking. so i put a cloth under the engine. Soon it was filled with fuel. (on my bench was a small gas tank, white sprit, a gallon of fuel and some high flammable lubricating oil. I noted my mini blowtorch in the way, and picked it up to move it. BANG, there was a small explosion and the cloth went on fire, UNDER the nose. i grabbed the fire extinguisher and used it, covering everything This should be a warning to every one!
What do you think
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Volkan
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02-07-2004, 02:54 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE
I would think static buildup on you jumping to the torch would possibly be the cause, dont really know for sure.. sucks though... proof that danger lies everyware. i dont have a fire extingisher, makes me wanna go get one......
02-07-2004, 03:25 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE
ye, and for a couple of seconds, it tried to blow it out
then it was too big! about half an hour after I realized all the explosive material on my bench.
then i tought, wha if this happen when i was in another room.
then it was too big! about half an hour after I realized all the explosive material on my bench.
then i tought, wha if this happen when i was in another room.
02-08-2004, 06:05 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
new pic
for FULL story + video of damage goto
http://www.watfordwayfarers.org/Fixe...ction/safe.htm
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for FULL story + video of damage goto
http://www.watfordwayfarers.org/Fixe...ction/safe.htm
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02-08-2004, 09:52 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE
Holy SH#T!
FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!
FIRE ON THE FLIGHT DECK!
ALL HANDS LEND ASSISTANCE!
...Dude, you're alive to take the picture. You're a winner.
-Sorry about your prop.
FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!
FIRE ON THE FLIGHT DECK!
ALL HANDS LEND ASSISTANCE!
...Dude, you're alive to take the picture. You're a winner.
-Sorry about your prop.
02-09-2004, 04:35 AM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE
well i also noticed the saw dust on your bench.... that could also of been blown up in to such a fine powder it exploded (just like custard) sorry if it is difficult to understand ... I'm a physicist
02-09-2004, 05:56 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
ye i need a new prop.
the onl problem is: i can't tell the size. it is burt over!
I also need a new spinner, and some yellow covering.
i take the fire extingisher to the club now!
surprisingly, the cloth which burnt was useble again. it wasnt too damaged! but i binned it (bad luck)
the onl problem is: i can't tell the size. it is burt over!
I also need a new spinner, and some yellow covering.
i take the fire extingisher to the club now!
surprisingly, the cloth which burnt was useble again. it wasnt too damaged! but i binned it (bad luck
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02-11-2004, 03:23 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
If it was just fuel, the cloth would have been just fine. It's kinda neat, but soak a rag in alcohol and burn it. It will burn itself out in a minute or two, and you'll notice the rag is now wet. Since there's quite a bit of water in alcohol, after the alcohol burns off it will leave the rag wet and unburnt. Since airplane fuel is almost all alcohol (the nitro in glow fuel is less explosive/flammible then alcohol) the same thing will happen.
02-11-2004, 04:24 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
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If it was just fuel, the cloth would have been just fine. It's kinda neat, but soak a rag in alcohol and burn it. It will burn itself out in a minute or two, and you'll notice the rag is now wet. Since there's quite a bit of water in alcohol, after the alcohol burns off it will leave the rag wet and unburnt. Since airplane fuel is almost all alcohol (the nitro in glow fuel is less explosive/flammible then alcohol) the same thing will happen.
If it was just fuel, the cloth would have been just fine. It's kinda neat, but soak a rag in alcohol and burn it. It will burn itself out in a minute or two, and you'll notice the rag is now wet. Since there's quite a bit of water in alcohol, after the alcohol burns off it will leave the rag wet and unburnt. Since airplane fuel is almost all alcohol (the nitro in glow fuel is less explosive/flammible then alcohol) the same thing will happen.
well you making explotions
02-14-2004, 03:30 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
Yes it may have been a static discharge which ignited the fuel vapors. That stuff comming out of the muffler was almost definitely glow fuel.
Its possible for glow fuel to burn and you not to see it... so the airplane may have been on fire when you brought it in! (Its a relatively low temp flame with practically no color.) Virtually invisinble ih bright sunlight. Then you spill a little of the flaming fuel and.. WHOOM! fire everyplace! Engine backfired about the time you gave up on starting it?
Its possible for glow fuel to burn and you not to see it... so the airplane may have been on fire when you brought it in! (Its a relatively low temp flame with practically no color.) Virtually invisinble ih bright sunlight. Then you spill a little of the flaming fuel and.. WHOOM! fire everyplace! Engine backfired about the time you gave up on starting it?
02-14-2004, 05:36 PM
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Yes it may have been a static discharge which ignited the fuel vapors. That stuff comming out of the muffler was almost definitely glow fuel.
Its possible for glow fuel to burn and you not to see it... so the airplane may have been on fire when you brought it in! (Its a relatively low temp flame with practically no color.) Virtually invisinble ih bright sunlight. Then you spill a little of the flaming fuel and.. WHOOM! fire everyplace! Engine backfired about the time you gave up on starting it?
Yes it may have been a static discharge which ignited the fuel vapors. That stuff comming out of the muffler was almost definitely glow fuel.
Its possible for glow fuel to burn and you not to see it... so the airplane may have been on fire when you brought it in! (Its a relatively low temp flame with practically no color.) Virtually invisinble ih bright sunlight. Then you spill a little of the flaming fuel and.. WHOOM! fire everyplace! Engine backfired about the time you gave up on starting it?
second i live in england, there is no bright sunlight! by the time i got the plane in and i started repairs was about 40min. so that couldn't be the reson.
the engine didnt back fire, and it did start, it just took time. it was abput 5C so it may have been the coldness!
02-22-2004, 12:37 AM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
Hey volkan didn't your mother tell you not to play with matches little boy.
If the liquid coming out of the muffler wasn't glow fuel than what was it. Did your little brother or sister pour gasoline in the muffler? Why did you bring the plane inside the house with glow fuel spilling out of it? I would consider this a lesson learned, your lucky you didn't burn the house down.
If the liquid coming out of the muffler wasn't glow fuel than what was it. Did your little brother or sister pour gasoline in the muffler? Why did you bring the plane inside the house with glow fuel spilling out of it? I would consider this a lesson learned, your lucky you didn't burn the house down.
02-22-2004, 04:18 PM
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RE: TRAINER FIRE (not a jet)
well i have videos, but no webspace. i just have done my twinstar crash.
can any one help???
i have no idea about the stuff, coming out of the muffler?
well i bought it in mainly because I LIVE IN LONDON it is always FREEZING. and it was getting dark.
can any one help???
i have no idea about the stuff, coming out of the muffler?
well i bought it in mainly because I LIVE IN LONDON
it is always FREEZING. and it was getting dark.