Full scale bad landings
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Full scale bad landings
Don't think I've ever landed a model as bad as this...[link=http://www.strategypage.com/hotstuff/articles/gallery2005791136.asp]www.strategypage.com[/link]
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Hey! Is that Bigfoot in the forefront?! [X(]
Hey! Is that Bigfoot in the forefront?! [X(]
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RE: Full scale bad landings
ouch, but I think that 'bigfoot' is a static object, I watched it through the entire thing, and it didn't move.
All you can say about the crash is wow and hope that pilot didn't get hurt. I don't know why it rolled like that though, it couldn't of had that much momentum, the engine must have still been running. Sometimes, you just have to accept a bad/crash landing.(hopefully on a model though)
All you can say about the crash is wow and hope that pilot didn't get hurt. I don't know why it rolled like that though, it couldn't of had that much momentum, the engine must have still been running. Sometimes, you just have to accept a bad/crash landing.(hopefully on a model though)
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RE: Full scale bad landings
"ouch, but I think that 'bigfoot' is a static object, I watched it through the entire thing, and it didn't move."
Obviously he was as shocked as we were. He looked stunned and confused. Kind of like a deer caught in the headlights. I'm not surprised he didn't move considering the drama unfolding right in front of him. I bet he had a lot to tell his kids (Smallfeets) when he got back to the cave.
Mr. Bigfoot: "I swear to god! It was a giant fire-breathing yard dart and it came right at me!"
Mrs. Bigfoot: "I think someone stopped off at the local watering hole on his way home from the office and had one to many..."
Mr. Bigfoot: "No really honey! It was..."
Mrs. Bigfoot: "Hush dear! You're scaring the smallfeet. Now be quiet and eat you human stew. Careful though, I may have missed
some camera parts when I cleaned him."
On a more serious side... I must say that was an ugly crash and I hope the pilot got off light. I saw a video once of a Raptor prototype being test flown. It appeared he was landing and the plane ballooned real bad just before belly-flopping on the runway. The Gripen did a very similar thing in that video. I wonder if that was a prototype plane too? I don't think you will find a person with more guts than a test pilot.
Obviously he was as shocked as we were. He looked stunned and confused. Kind of like a deer caught in the headlights. I'm not surprised he didn't move considering the drama unfolding right in front of him. I bet he had a lot to tell his kids (Smallfeets) when he got back to the cave.
Mr. Bigfoot: "I swear to god! It was a giant fire-breathing yard dart and it came right at me!"
Mrs. Bigfoot: "I think someone stopped off at the local watering hole on his way home from the office and had one to many..."
Mr. Bigfoot: "No really honey! It was..."
Mrs. Bigfoot: "Hush dear! You're scaring the smallfeet. Now be quiet and eat you human stew. Careful though, I may have missed
some camera parts when I cleaned him."
On a more serious side... I must say that was an ugly crash and I hope the pilot got off light. I saw a video once of a Raptor prototype being test flown. It appeared he was landing and the plane ballooned real bad just before belly-flopping on the runway. The Gripen did a very similar thing in that video. I wonder if that was a prototype plane too? I don't think you will find a person with more guts than a test pilot.
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RE: Full scale bad landings
I don't know why it rolled like that though, it couldn't of had that much momentum, the engine must have still been running.
I bet the pilot had to check is shorts after than one!
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RE: Full scale bad landings
That has got to be an inanimate object of some sort.I run ambulance calls here at Lambert St.louis international,and every medic here has to have clearance.I can't imagine the authorities at any controlled air strip allowing someone to be that close to an active runway.Could it be a camera or other equipment monitoring the landing?
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RE: Full scale bad landings
Yes, it is the Saab Grippen, and yes, the pilot did survive...In fact this footage is already quiet old, as the plane shown is one of the prototypes. For information, they lost two or three of the prototypes, one was tumbling out of control, piloy ejected, this one obviously has a close call on landing...I am not Pro European or pro swedish, not at all, but I have seen footage of the F14 prototype crashing on short final ( 2 succesfull ejections, I have seen the A10 crash at Le Bourget ( pilot capt Samuel Fuller, Killed)...and who can forget the Migs and Sukhoi that crashed at airshows, the last one in an ex soviet republic, killing a large number of spectators...I guess, all new crafts are prone to experience problems at one time or another...Hopefuly, in this case, no victim
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RE: Full scale bad landings
Well, being a Swede, a fullscale pilot and a aeroplaneoholic let me tell you all what happened. Yes it was the first prototype of the SAAB Gripen and the first of 2 prototype crashes. Both crashes where caused by PIO, pilot induced ocilations, when the pilot where trying to master an oversencetive flight by wire system. Later this problem was solved and the Gripen is since a few yrs back in operative service. Gripen is fully NATO standard, 4th generation fighter plane (together with Eurofighter, Rafal, Raptor, Su27...). It is not the Eurofighter (that also has the canard wing design). This filmclip is about 15 yrs old.
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RE: Full scale bad landings
that poor horse and from the fire out of the tail it looked like he stalled it then thryed to hores it into the air and stalled it again
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RE: Full scale bad landings
What about that C-130 Herky Turky smacking the hump on landing. Hit so had it snapped the right wing off at teh end. Wonder if the pilot and crew are 6" shorter after that. Amazing thing is he got it stopped without flopping it over. Man that 130 is a tough bird
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What´s interesting is that it was the same pilot that crashed both Gripen prototypes.
I remember very clearly both crashes, especially the second one as that was in central Stockholm during an airshow with about 100 000 spectators...
As firstofficer said, it was because of software problem in the early flights of the Gripen.
A very cool plane... Looks like it is the last manned fight plane manufactured by SAAB, the next one they are working on is an unmanned fighter. The time of fighter pilots will be over soon...
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I remember very clearly both crashes, especially the second one as that was in central Stockholm during an airshow with about 100 000 spectators...
As firstofficer said, it was because of software problem in the early flights of the Gripen.
A very cool plane... Looks like it is the last manned fight plane manufactured by SAAB, the next one they are working on is an unmanned fighter. The time of fighter pilots will be over soon...
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RE: Full scale bad landings
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Incidentally this crash was caused by a software glich in the fly by wire control programming.
Can't remember having heard how the pilot faired though.
Incidentally this crash was caused by a software glich in the fly by wire control programming.
Can't remember having heard how the pilot faired though.
Correct computer software response time for the flight controls resulted in the over control condition. The pilot did an excellent job getting it as far as he did. Jim
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RE: Full scale bad landings
What about that C-130 Herky Turky smacking the hump on landing.
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Correct computer software response time for the flight controls resulted in the over control condition. The pilot did an excellent job getting it as far as he did. Jim
ORIGINAL: Silvanskii
Incidentally this crash was caused by a software glich in the fly by wire control programming.
Can't remember having heard how the pilot faired though.
Incidentally this crash was caused by a software glich in the fly by wire control programming.
Can't remember having heard how the pilot faired though.
Correct computer software response time for the flight controls resulted in the over control condition. The pilot did an excellent job getting it as far as he did. Jim
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The interesting item about the -130 mishap is that an airman, just bought a brand new movie camera from the BX and thought it would be a good idea to try it out around the flightline. That was his first roll of film.