Trash Planes
08-09-2006, 10:49 PM
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Trash Planes
Has anyone else ever noticed the effect when someone puts or finds an airplane in the trash? There have been a few occasions I have seen half the people at the field gather around a trash can plane. Its hilarious really.
My favorite example is when a micro ultra stick crashed, with a shattered fuse up to the wing and a damaged wing, it was put in the trash. Later that morning, a guy took it out, and went home with it. The very next week, he came out with a frankenstein plane, with a bluecor foam front fuselage and wing, and an Ultra Stick tail section.
And just this week, there were a few tiny pieces of a kantana in the trash, and everyone still took a look at it, including me!
My favorite example is when a micro ultra stick crashed, with a shattered fuse up to the wing and a damaged wing, it was put in the trash. Later that morning, a guy took it out, and went home with it. The very next week, he came out with a frankenstein plane, with a bluecor foam front fuselage and wing, and an Ultra Stick tail section.
And just this week, there were a few tiny pieces of a kantana in the trash, and everyone still took a look at it, including me!
08-09-2006, 11:08 PM
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RE: Trash Planes
Iturnright,
I once took a "Trashed" patriot home. Wing broken in half, fuse demolished back to the cockpit. I took it back to the field two weeks later totally repaired. She looked great. A gentleman exclaimed, "I crashed a Patriot just like that one two weeks ago. When I asked what he did with it he said, "I threw it in the dumpster as the wing was broken in to and the fuse was badly damaged. I asked if he still had the engine and electronics. He said he did. I said, "Here's your plane". He was amazed and asked what he owed me for the rebuild. I told him not to crash it agian and no payment was needed. I also once rebuilt a a badky crashed Avistar at the field in 40 minutes. Everyone said to Trash" it. I said, "No, it's repairable. In 40 minutes time I taxied the Avistar onto the runway and took off. I handed the transmitter back to the pilot and told him not to crash it again. I believe Trash/Dumpster planes are a challenge to bring back what was believed to be lost forever, not to mention a challenge to the avid builder.
I once took a "Trashed" patriot home. Wing broken in half, fuse demolished back to the cockpit. I took it back to the field two weeks later totally repaired. She looked great. A gentleman exclaimed, "I crashed a Patriot just like that one two weeks ago. When I asked what he did with it he said, "I threw it in the dumpster as the wing was broken in to and the fuse was badly damaged. I asked if he still had the engine and electronics. He said he did. I said, "Here's your plane". He was amazed and asked what he owed me for the rebuild. I told him not to crash it agian and no payment was needed. I also once rebuilt a a badky crashed Avistar at the field in 40 minutes. Everyone said to Trash" it. I said, "No, it's repairable. In 40 minutes time I taxied the Avistar onto the runway and took off. I handed the transmitter back to the pilot and told him not to crash it again. I believe Trash/Dumpster planes are a challenge to bring back what was believed to be lost forever, not to mention a challenge to the avid builder.
08-10-2006, 07:38 AM
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RE: Trash Planes
I know what you mean about repairing planes. I just trashed my Nexstar last night !!!!! I am sad there was nothing left of it!!! Well, maybe some of the tail was still salvagable. Everything was mashed with the plane from nose to wing section. The engine was heavily damaged with case damaged, crankshaft bent like an "S" shape, muffler was smashed to pieces.
I was coming in for a landing and it was getting dusk outside. I lost my orientation of the plane's wings and also had the throttle reduced in preparation to land, anyhow the plane started to bob up and down and then went in a climb of some sort and then flipped over. I quickly applied throttle to try and bring it out of her dive at about 30 feet and it was of no use it kept going straight into the ground nose first and then SHCMUCK!!!!
The guys that were over by that area said it flipped over on it back and and was too close to the ground to effect a pull out of the dive. Anyhow, lesson learned I will never reduce the throttle on turning to coming into land. I will wait until I am lined up with runway and then on approach will lower speed and preapre to land. But what a sad feeling. I just started to have fun with the plane doing loops and barrels rolls and such and then this had to happen as a result of pilot error. Really SUCKS!
I have salvaged most of what I can and I don't think I can repair this. I wish I took a picture to show. Of all places to nose dive also the pavement! Grass on both sides everywhere within 5 feet!!! Really sucks!
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I was coming in for a landing and it was getting dusk outside. I lost my orientation of the plane's wings and also had the throttle reduced in preparation to land, anyhow the plane started to bob up and down and then went in a climb of some sort and then flipped over. I quickly applied throttle to try and bring it out of her dive at about 30 feet and it was of no use it kept going straight into the ground nose first and then SHCMUCK!!!!
The guys that were over by that area said it flipped over on it back and and was too close to the ground to effect a pull out of the dive. Anyhow, lesson learned I will never reduce the throttle on turning to coming into land. I will wait until I am lined up with runway and then on approach will lower speed and preapre to land. But what a sad feeling. I just started to have fun with the plane doing loops and barrels rolls and such and then this had to happen as a result of pilot error. Really SUCKS!
I have salvaged most of what I can and I don't think I can repair this. I wish I took a picture to show. Of all places to nose dive also the pavement! Grass on both sides everywhere within 5 feet!!! Really sucks!
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08-10-2006, 07:45 AM
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RE: Trash Planes
I always figured that it was a challenge to rebuild what my mistake made me crash, but always rebuild better and modify everthing i didnt like about it,i have a staudaucher that is totally rebuilt and flies better than when new,and pieces in a trash can still might be useable to some one you never know
08-11-2006, 11:28 AM
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I know what you mean about repairing planes. I just trashed my Nexstar last night !!!!! I am sad there was nothing left of it!!! Well, maybe some of the tail was still salvagable. Everything was mashed with the plane from nose to wing section. The engine was heavily damaged with case damaged, crankshaft bent like an "S" shape, muffler was smashed to pieces.
I was coming in for a landing and it was getting dusk outside. I lost my orientation of the plane's wings and also had the throttle reduced in preparation to land, anyhow the plane started to bob up and down and then went in a climb of some sort and then flipped over. I quickly applied throttle to try and bring it out of her dive at about 30 feet and it was of no use it kept going straight into the ground nose first and then SHCMUCK!!!!
The guys that were over by that area said it flipped over on it back and and was too close to the ground to effect a pull out of the dive. Anyhow, lesson learned I will never reduce the throttle on turning to coming into land. I will wait until I am lined up with runway and then on approach will lower speed and preapre to land. But what a sad feeling. I just started to have fun with the plane doing loops and barrels rolls and such and then this had to happen as a result of pilot error. Really SUCKS!
I have salvaged most of what I can and I don't think I can repair this. I wish I took a picture to show. Of all places to nose dive also the pavement! Grass on both sides everywhere within 5 feet!!! Really sucks!
[img][/img]
I know what you mean about repairing planes. I just trashed my Nexstar last night !!!!! I am sad there was nothing left of it!!! Well, maybe some of the tail was still salvagable. Everything was mashed with the plane from nose to wing section. The engine was heavily damaged with case damaged, crankshaft bent like an "S" shape, muffler was smashed to pieces.
I was coming in for a landing and it was getting dusk outside. I lost my orientation of the plane's wings and also had the throttle reduced in preparation to land, anyhow the plane started to bob up and down and then went in a climb of some sort and then flipped over. I quickly applied throttle to try and bring it out of her dive at about 30 feet and it was of no use it kept going straight into the ground nose first and then SHCMUCK!!!!
The guys that were over by that area said it flipped over on it back and and was too close to the ground to effect a pull out of the dive. Anyhow, lesson learned I will never reduce the throttle on turning to coming into land. I will wait until I am lined up with runway and then on approach will lower speed and preapre to land. But what a sad feeling. I just started to have fun with the plane doing loops and barrels rolls and such and then this had to happen as a result of pilot error. Really SUCKS!
I have salvaged most of what I can and I don't think I can repair this. I wish I took a picture to show. Of all places to nose dive also the pavement! Grass on both sides everywhere within 5 feet!!! Really sucks!
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08-11-2006, 05:20 PM
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Half of my hangar is dumpster recovered/saved airplanes. It is surprising to me the minimal amount of damage that is found when the covering is removed...
08-11-2006, 06:28 PM
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Years ago I went to the field and their was a slab sided zero busted in the garbage..I found out Mr. X had crashed it. MrX had paid someone to build it for him, and crashed it first day out.
I used to build from kits and scratch build alot.. so I put a round firewall on it. and turned it into a much nicer looking zero. I covered it with super coverite, painted it, added panel lines, weathering, even highlights.. it looked great.
As I am thankfully a more prolific builder than crasher, I decided to hang it up for sale at the local hobby shop..I went in about two days later and an employee told me MrX had bought it..I said you mean someone bought MrX's zero? he said "What? that was Mrx's plane before he crashed it?' I said yep.....thats when I realized I has sold MrX back the same zero for a $100 more than it cost him the first time, ha ha, it was worth it though..it looked great. I am not sure anyone ever told him though!
I used to build from kits and scratch build alot.. so I put a round firewall on it. and turned it into a much nicer looking zero. I covered it with super coverite, painted it, added panel lines, weathering, even highlights.. it looked great.
As I am thankfully a more prolific builder than crasher, I decided to hang it up for sale at the local hobby shop..I went in about two days later and an employee told me MrX had bought it..I said you mean someone bought MrX's zero? he said "What? that was Mrx's plane before he crashed it?' I said yep.....thats when I realized I has sold MrX back the same zero for a $100 more than it cost him the first time, ha ha, it was worth it though..it looked great. I am not sure anyone ever told him though!
08-16-2006, 07:54 PM
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The duraplane was toast, I didn't even try. But the other thing started life as an electric, and when I fished it out of the trash showed more than a little wear and tear. I patched it up, turned it into a glow plane, and it flies suprisingly well...far better than it looks at least :-) that plus I don't have any real attachment to it
08-25-2006, 03:35 PM
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Got to the field just as a guy dumped a Hangar 9 Cessna 182 due to a stall and snap on turn-to-final. (swears he had nothing to do with it).
Had the plane on the ground in front of him, maybe a 15 minute repair job. Damage minor in my opinion. JUMPED UP IN THE AIR AND STOMPED THE FUSELAGE and kicked it to pieces out of childish anger.
I think the word "NO!" escaped my mouth just as he landed on it.
What a waste. Somebody with a similar airplane took the wing for a spare (just had the right hand center-to-outer wing splice broken). Had that airplane hit the trash can, 5 people would have been fighting over it, including me.
Very few crashed planes even make it to the trash at my field.
Most humerous story was a guy who just liked to fix airplanes. Took a guy's crash and told him "I'll fix it for you". Sam kept all the receipts for little odds and ends he bought to complete the project stuffed in the fuselage. 2 weeks later he saw the guy, handed him the plane and said "The receipts for all the stuff I bought are in the fuselage." Guy says "Thanks" and WALKS AWAY! Never paid him the $25 for parts.
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08-27-2006, 09:18 PM
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A buddy nosed in a mini ultra stick, he took out the electronics and was about to run over it with his car when I stopped him. I took the not so damaged plane home and within 3 days it was back into the air as good as new. It is still going strong after 50 plus post-crash flights............GW
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A buddy of my that is an excellent pilot was flying his OMP Katana V2 70. He had it about 5ft off the deck hovering and yelled over at me to come and fly his plane to see how I liked it. As I walked over the motor stumbled and died. The plane nosed in on the asphalt. It damaged the fuse and the right wing. I told him it didn't look so bad and could be repaired in a couple of days. He took it over to the shelter and begun taking the engine and servos off of it. I asked him what he was doing and he said he didn't have time to repair it because he was working out of town so he was just going to trash it. I told him to throw it in my trailer and I would see what I could do with it. The next weekend we were out at the field and I pulled the Katana out of my trailer and walked over and put it in his trailer. When he was finished flying he noticed the plane sitting there and came over to inspect it. I asked him what he thought and he said I that I had a really nice plane for learning and practicing 3D with. I told him that I had repaired it for him. He said no it is your plane now. I could believe it. I got a $200 arf for free just for a couple nights work.
The plane flies great and has helped me hone my 3D skills this summer.
The plane flies great and has helped me hone my 3D skills this summer.
11-02-2006, 04:00 PM
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I agree, you should definitely rebuild the planes. I still have my first generation Eagle 63, bought and crashed many times since 1983, hanging in my garage.
I guess not everyone has the patience to do the rebuilds and why there is such a great market for ARF's.
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I guess not everyone has the patience to do the rebuilds and why there is such a great market for ARF's.
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11-02-2006, 10:56 PM
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I guess that is the 'disposable and cheap ARF' attitude.....wish we had a trash barrel at our field!
I was given a Sig Somethin Extra after the guy who built it got tired of repairing it. I repaired it and did some mods. Later, I had a midair with another Somethin Extra and repaired that. I stalled it on final one evening when it got dark in about 10 seconds and I couldn't see the plane. Repaired the rudder on that one. Anyway, I still fly it from time to time. It looks ugly with Monokote, Ultracote, and Econokote covering.
I was given a Sig Somethin Extra after the guy who built it got tired of repairing it. I repaired it and did some mods. Later, I had a midair with another Somethin Extra and repaired that. I stalled it on final one evening when it got dark in about 10 seconds and I couldn't see the plane. Repaired the rudder on that one. Anyway, I still fly it from time to time. It looks ugly with Monokote, Ultracote, and Econokote covering.
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I agree, you should definitely rebuild the planes. I still have my first generation Eagle 63, bought and crashed many times since 1983, hanging in my garage.
I guess not everyone has the patience to do the rebuilds and why there is such a great market for ARF's.
Steve
I agree, you should definitely rebuild the planes. I still have my first generation Eagle 63, bought and crashed many times since 1983, hanging in my garage.
I guess not everyone has the patience to do the rebuilds and why there is such a great market for ARF's.
Steve
Racing should be good for that
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RE: Trash Planes
About a year ago we had another thread on Trash AC.
However, it featured a fellow throwing away a damaged AC, a starving student picked it up and repaired it - the next week the original owner Wanted it BACK, and I do mean NOW! No thank yous for the repairs, no offer of reimbursment for time and materials just a big loud "GIMME back my Plane!" [&o][:'(]
It's really sad to hear that kind of story - I definately prefer the experiances that you chaps have told here.
It just maintains your faith in the modeling brotherhood.
However, it featured a fellow throwing away a damaged AC, a starving student picked it up and repaired it - the next week the original owner Wanted it BACK, and I do mean NOW! No thank yous for the repairs, no offer of reimbursment for time and materials just a big loud "GIMME back my Plane!" [&o][:'(]
It's really sad to hear that kind of story - I definately prefer the experiances that you chaps have told here.
It just maintains your faith in the modeling brotherhood.
11-05-2006, 08:15 PM
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i trashed a plane that probably....well...coulda been easily fixed with some time, but i was moving 2 provinces away in the next week, and intended on swapping the gear out into another plane right away. when i threw that one in the "trash" if anyone had taken it, it would have been "theirs to keep". I dont chase bums down the street, b/c they took something i threw away.
If i fixed something that someone threw away and they demanded it back, they would either have to pay for the rebuild or pry it from my cold dead hands.
If i fixed something that someone threw away and they demanded it back, they would either have to pay for the rebuild or pry it from my cold dead hands.
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At our field, we have an area where modelers give up on their planes, and put them in this area. Whoever thought they could fix it and fly it, well, they took it home. By the end of the day, the models were taken up by the original owners, or put in the shed for another time, or even some burned, if reason being no way to repair. The area is right by the frequency board. I was pulling my channel to fly my E-Flite Yak, when I noticed an airplane sitting on the ground. The plane was an Extreme Flight Yak. It was the little, transparent, electric one. I picked it up, and The wing was broken slightly, the fuse was damaged, and Monokote was split all down the fuse. Thrilled with my "new" Yak, I put it in the trailer and took it home. I have taken only a week to repair it, and put electronics in it. I brought it to the field one week later and flew it. It flew like a dream. The knife edge was perfect, and everything was great. Everyone kept complementing me on my new Yak. I just smiled. Every time someone said that I had a nice Yak, I just said," Yeah, not bad for a Trasher, huh?" Everyone looked at me, puzzled.
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I found the earlier thread on this topic.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...tm.htm#1179295
Some people ... [&o]
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...tm.htm#1179295
Some people ... [&o]
11-07-2006, 12:05 AM
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Iturnright,
I once took a "Trashed" patriot home. Wing broken in half, fuse demolished back to the cockpit. I took it back to the field two weeks later totally repaired. She looked great. A gentleman exclaimed, "I crashed a Patriot just like that one two weeks ago. When I asked what he did with it he said, "I threw it in the dumpster as the wing was broken in to and the fuse was badly damaged. I asked if he still had the engine and electronics. He said he did. I said, "Here's your plane". He was amazed and asked what he owed me for the rebuild. I told him not to crash it agian and no payment was needed. I also once rebuilt a a badky crashed Avistar at the field in 40 minutes. Everyone said to Trash" it. I said, "No, it's repairable. In 40 minutes time I taxied the Avistar onto the runway and took off. I handed the transmitter back to the pilot and told him not to crash it again. I believe Trash/Dumpster planes are a challenge to bring back what was believed to be lost forever, not to mention a challenge to the avid builder.
Iturnright,
I once took a "Trashed" patriot home. Wing broken in half, fuse demolished back to the cockpit. I took it back to the field two weeks later totally repaired. She looked great. A gentleman exclaimed, "I crashed a Patriot just like that one two weeks ago. When I asked what he did with it he said, "I threw it in the dumpster as the wing was broken in to and the fuse was badly damaged. I asked if he still had the engine and electronics. He said he did. I said, "Here's your plane". He was amazed and asked what he owed me for the rebuild. I told him not to crash it agian and no payment was needed. I also once rebuilt a a badky crashed Avistar at the field in 40 minutes. Everyone said to Trash" it. I said, "No, it's repairable. In 40 minutes time I taxied the Avistar onto the runway and took off. I handed the transmitter back to the pilot and told him not to crash it again. I believe Trash/Dumpster planes are a challenge to bring back what was believed to be lost forever, not to mention a challenge to the avid builder.
When I started in this hobby many people gave me "slightly" damaged planes that they did not want to rebuild. Although many of them were actually beyond my skill level I rebuilt them, flew them, crashed them and rebuilt them until they were really trash.