Struggling with single rotor basics V2
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Wow Chuck, up past your bed time AND on a work night to boot!! LOL. I bet you are too excited to sleep anyway. Enjoy your first day at work buddy.
Here is how you lawn dart a plane....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsDnXeyyng[/youtube]
And this is how you do it without lawn darting...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gOi8icFmM[/youtube]
Here is how you lawn dart a plane....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsDnXeyyng[/youtube]
And this is how you do it without lawn darting...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gOi8icFmM[/youtube]
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Ivan - After watching that lawn dart video it's apparent that you've finally gotten to my skill level!!! At least yours didn't end up being a pile of balsa sticks and dust!
Nice flying and it looks like you were having a lot of fun!!
Bill
Nice flying and it looks like you were having a lot of fun!!
Bill
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Nice to see you back Dave. That hexcopter really looks cool. I have been wanting to build a tricopter for a while using the Gaui GU365 as the controller. Keep us updated on your project.
Nice to see you back Dave. That hexcopter really looks cool. I have been wanting to build a tricopter for a while using the Gaui GU365 as the controller. Keep us updated on your project.
This Hexa is all decked out. GPS, navigation computer, FPV, etc. So it should be a fun build and fun flights.
Nice foamies (err, lawn darts)! Using free plans? Going to branch out and design something yourself sometime? (Yet another thing I want to get back into).
-Dave
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Dave, thanks. I have looked at the Gaui 330x and know several people that have them and they are nice. I kind of like the build and experimentation of scratch building one though. Plus I already have a GU365.
I am having a riot with the foamies. My collection is getting quite large. I have built five dekan F-22s, one plane blue F-22, a cub, Alley Cat, DS Wing, two KESL wings, a mKISL, the F-117A... then I have a collection of ARFs too... LOL. Planes are a lot of fun too. Still flying the helis though.
My Multiplex FunJet flight from yesterday.... FAST!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDXiMaFMJc[/youtube]
I am having a riot with the foamies. My collection is getting quite large. I have built five dekan F-22s, one plane blue F-22, a cub, Alley Cat, DS Wing, two KESL wings, a mKISL, the F-117A... then I have a collection of ARFs too... LOL. Planes are a lot of fun too. Still flying the helis though.
My Multiplex FunJet flight from yesterday.... FAST!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDXiMaFMJc[/youtube]
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nice flying with the multiplex, that thing HAULS! Love the f-117 too! I'm just too immersed in heli-land to pull out and build another few planks now
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I am having a riot with the foamies. My collection is getting quite large. I have built five dekan F-22s, one plane blue F-22, a cub, Alley Cat, DS Wing, two KESL wings, a mKISL, the F-117A... then I have a collection of ARFs too... LOL. Planes are a lot of fun too. Still flying the helis though.
My Multiplex FunJet flight from yesterday.... FAST!!!
I am having a riot with the foamies. My collection is getting quite large. I have built five dekan F-22s, one plane blue F-22, a cub, Alley Cat, DS Wing, two KESL wings, a mKISL, the F-117A... then I have a collection of ARFs too... LOL. Planes are a lot of fun too. Still flying the helis though.
My Multiplex FunJet flight from yesterday.... FAST!!!
Cameraman did a much better job at following the plane then I did. Tiny little spec (much more fun to watch Helis!)
Ya know the FunJet makes a great FPV platform... (since it's a pusher)
Chuck-
Yeah, I second what Ivan says!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXAsjFX5KM
This thing is sooo much fun to fly, I’m thinking about making a fiberglass version of it.
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Helicopter + planes... Where do you live, since I'm sure your house is filled.
Cameraman did a much better job at following the plane then I did. Tiny little spec (much more fun to watch Helis!)
Ya know the FunJet makes a great FPV platform... (since it's a pusher)
-Dave
Helicopter + planes... Where do you live, since I'm sure your house is filled.
Cameraman did a much better job at following the plane then I did. Tiny little spec (much more fun to watch Helis!)
Ya know the FunJet makes a great FPV platform... (since it's a pusher)
-Dave
Alex did a good job following the plane. Next time we should have a better camera to film with so the video should be better.
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parents ok-ed me skipping school to go skiing today..it was a "mental health day" [8D] I'm acing all my classes though so no worries in that respect. but the person I skied with got some quality video of me hitting some jumps, when he uploads it I'll post it (youtube this time!)
+2, how was the first day chuck?
Alex, do itt!
+2, how was the first day chuck?
Alex, do itt!
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I finished the setup of my Mini V-bar today. It should have been easy, but it wasn't because this is a new build.
1. I had a major brainfart yesterday when I setup the servos. I didn't use the little pointer MA provides to "center" the servo arm. Basically, while the servo is at center, you don't center the arm with respect to the servo. You center the arm on the pointer, that way it compensates for the 4/5 mm difference in aileron/pitch servo versus the elevator servo rotational axis. I actually called MA on this. Oh, well.
2. I found the cyclic link lengths were wrong in the Furion Manual, by 3 mm. That meant I had to trim the links rods, 2mm off each side. I came to this conclusion when there was nothing I could do within the electronics adjustments of the Mini V-bar or radio to compensate for more positive than negative pitch. After that, setting up cyclic was dirt easy. I've got +-13 collective pitch and +-8 cyclic. I could have easily gotten more but opted to stay in the center of +-12/+-14 collective range recommendation for the Vbar. I had to turn down cyclic in the software. It was +-10 out of the box.
3. Tail servo. Within the setup directions of the mini-Vbar, there is no way to determine center of the servo once it's plugged in. I could find no way to get the tail to go into rate mode so center would hold and I could find the right position of the arm. It took some trial and error to find a position that would give equal throw.
4. The tail has about 6 degrees of pitch built in when you center the slider... very cool, but the link rod is a bit on the short side, IMO. I got it right but I wish I had more threads on the rod to use. I ended up counting turns and used CA for more security in the link.
I got the motor yesterday and it's installed... no biggie. Next up is ESC/BEC but that can wait until I get batteries. It's gonna wait a bit.
Scott
1. I had a major brainfart yesterday when I setup the servos. I didn't use the little pointer MA provides to "center" the servo arm. Basically, while the servo is at center, you don't center the arm with respect to the servo. You center the arm on the pointer, that way it compensates for the 4/5 mm difference in aileron/pitch servo versus the elevator servo rotational axis. I actually called MA on this. Oh, well.
2. I found the cyclic link lengths were wrong in the Furion Manual, by 3 mm. That meant I had to trim the links rods, 2mm off each side. I came to this conclusion when there was nothing I could do within the electronics adjustments of the Mini V-bar or radio to compensate for more positive than negative pitch. After that, setting up cyclic was dirt easy. I've got +-13 collective pitch and +-8 cyclic. I could have easily gotten more but opted to stay in the center of +-12/+-14 collective range recommendation for the Vbar. I had to turn down cyclic in the software. It was +-10 out of the box.
3. Tail servo. Within the setup directions of the mini-Vbar, there is no way to determine center of the servo once it's plugged in. I could find no way to get the tail to go into rate mode so center would hold and I could find the right position of the arm. It took some trial and error to find a position that would give equal throw.
4. The tail has about 6 degrees of pitch built in when you center the slider... very cool, but the link rod is a bit on the short side, IMO. I got it right but I wish I had more threads on the rod to use. I ended up counting turns and used CA for more security in the link.
I got the motor yesterday and it's installed... no biggie. Next up is ESC/BEC but that can wait until I get batteries. It's gonna wait a bit.
Scott
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Careful that you do not need the Crying Towel, Just the Sweat Towel.
Careful that you do not need the Crying Towel, Just the Sweat Towel.
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scott, that's so cool..get it uup!!
well, I just figured out you can get a rtf hk-250 (minus tx/rx) for like $70 from hobbyking! hmm..
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well, I just figured out you can get a rtf hk-250 (minus tx/rx) for like $70 from hobbyking! hmm..
-Max
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Been away a while dealing with personal stuff - lost a good friend.
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I'd like to see one of these companies offer the micros with a tail that doesn't use a motor. I'd be impressed then!
Chuck
I'd like to see one of these companies offer the micros with a tail that doesn't use a motor. I'd be impressed then!
Chuck
[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkEqACliirc[/link]
Just tried to log in at youtube - and it tells me I have to create an account at google. First thing I see is it auto selected to track my web activity - I'm not sure I want to sign up for an account when they default to that. Has anyone else done this? I don't use google for anything - not my search engine, no email there - nothing. Does it create another email account I'll never use? Does it install that stupid google tool bar? Does it change my home page or modify my settimgs so now default search engine is google? To be honest, I'm leaning towards moving all my videos to the one Max uses (vimeo?).
Welcome back Dave. Has your employer installed a missle defense sytem to protect the investment?
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Ivan-
No, I didn't think you where kidding. Don't get involved with cars or boats, or you'll be sleeping outside (maybe for more than one reason!)
Max-
Nice! I haven't been on the slopes in a while.
Scott-
"It should have been easy, but it wasn't because this is a new build." Isn't that true for, well, everything? Sounds like you're getting. Remember to enjoy the journey! Looking forward to seeing it in action.
Larry-
Sorry to hear about your friend. No missile defense (LOL), but I was going to add an airborne laser system, just in case.
I just logged out and then logged back into youtube, and I don't have a google email account., and it didn't ask me to create one. I know the two can be tied together, since you need a google/youtube account to root your Nook Color...
I imagine it would create another email account for you, but can't say if it will install the google toolbar. I can see not wanting the other things, but if not the google search engine, what do you use?
-Dave
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Larry-
No missile defense (LOL), but I was going to add an airborne laser system, just in case.
I just logged out and then logged back into youtube, and I don't have a google email account., and it didn't ask me to create one. I know the two can be tied together, since you need a google/youtube account to root your Nook Color...
I imagine it would create another email account for you, but can't say if it will install the google toolbar. I can see not wanting the other things, but if not the google search engine, what do you use?
-Dave
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Larry-
No missile defense (LOL), but I was going to add an airborne laser system, just in case.
I just logged out and then logged back into youtube, and I don't have a google email account., and it didn't ask me to create one. I know the two can be tied together, since you need a google/youtube account to root your Nook Color...
I imagine it would create another email account for you, but can't say if it will install the google toolbar. I can see not wanting the other things, but if not the google search engine, what do you use?
-Dave
I use the original search engine (well not "the" original, but almost) yahoo.
And I am totally locked out of you tube at this point -
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Ihave a thing about privacy with Google, too. About the only thing Ido with Google is search and Youtube. I don't use their E-mail service and I don't use their home page. Iknow Google tracks searches and "may" keep data that can point to the source, but I know they only keep such data for 18 months.I think it's reasonable. I use my ISP's for E-mail, though. I don't think there's any getting away from someone knowing something about things your IP address is doing uniess you jump around and/or piggyback. Iremember the days of anon.penet.fi where they guaranteed anonymity... until it was used for illegal activity. Nowadays, unless you're your own ISP, and Imean you get a circuit from a company like Verizon, or have an ISP that allows you to host your own E-mail server and SMTP relay, privacy is a shooting match.
Dave.. it's getting close. I'm hoping the batteries arrive tomorrow and I can get the remaining electronics installed, canopy mounted, and CG sorted. Then it's up, up, and away!
Scott
Dave.. it's getting close. I'm hoping the batteries arrive tomorrow and I can get the remaining electronics installed, canopy mounted, and CG sorted. Then it's up, up, and away!
Scott
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I have a thing about privacy with Google, too. About the only thing I do with Google is search and Youtube. I don't use their E-mail service and I don't use their home page. I know Google tracks searches and ''may'' keep data that can point to the source, but I know they only keep such data for 18 months. I think it's reasonable. I use my ISP's for E-mail, though. I don't think there's any getting away from someone knowing something about things your IP address is doing uniess you jump around and/or piggyback. I remember the days of anon.penet.fi where they guaranteed anonymity... until it was used for illegal activity. Nowadays, unless you're your own ISP, and I mean you get a circuit from a company like Verizon, or have an ISP that allows you to host your own E-mail server and SMTP relay, privacy is a shooting match.
Scott
I have a thing about privacy with Google, too. About the only thing I do with Google is search and Youtube. I don't use their E-mail service and I don't use their home page. I know Google tracks searches and ''may'' keep data that can point to the source, but I know they only keep such data for 18 months. I think it's reasonable. I use my ISP's for E-mail, though. I don't think there's any getting away from someone knowing something about things your IP address is doing uniess you jump around and/or piggyback. I remember the days of anon.penet.fi where they guaranteed anonymity... until it was used for illegal activity. Nowadays, unless you're your own ISP, and I mean you get a circuit from a company like Verizon, or have an ISP that allows you to host your own E-mail server and SMTP relay, privacy is a shooting match.
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About the google and youtube thing, All I did was click on the sign out highlighted in blue, and that was the end of that.
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I had the same issue trying to log into YouTube a little while ago. I guess I had a gmail account from way back and was able to get back into my YouTube. It really pissed me off too.
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About the google and youtube thing, All I did was click on the sign out highlighted in blue, and that was the end of that.
About the google and youtube thing, All I did was click on the sign out highlighted in blue, and that was the end of that.
If this is just a basic sign in account I don't mind, but google, and yahoo, and msn, and aol, etc are all notorius for changing things like home page and tool bar and so on. It's like if you listen to rock music and when you get an oil change the guy changes all of your presets on your car radio to country western.