Larger Electrics
12-17-2002, 05:45 AM
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Larger Electrics
I want to know what the interest level is in larger electrics.
Do most people fly small electrics, but want a larger plane? Or, do you prefer small?
How does a +100" twin electric (with large cheap motors) sound to you?
Do nitro flyers want to get into electric, but want a plane similar in size to what they are used to?
-Q.
Do most people fly small electrics, but want a larger plane? Or, do you prefer small?
How does a +100" twin electric (with large cheap motors) sound to you?
Do nitro flyers want to get into electric, but want a plane similar in size to what they are used to?
-Q.
12-18-2002, 06:32 AM
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I'm into converting glow to E, and I am really satisfied with all my conversions. Though I'm still far behind, since I only started in this hobby a year ago.
-- My friend who fly's locally is into bigger airplanes, bigger power, and lot's of $$$,$$$ involved. I think and in my opinion, it is not about how big the plane, but how big is your pocket, should be the main question, because I am really interested to level up into bigger planes, but again $$$ is limited.
--- Bigger planes are very predictable, smooth to fly. Glow/Gas flyer's have to relearn the concept of E, for E is a whole new ball game
-- My friend who fly's locally is into bigger airplanes, bigger power, and lot's of $$$,$$$ involved. I think and in my opinion, it is not about how big the plane, but how big is your pocket, should be the main question, because I am really interested to level up into bigger planes, but again $$$ is limited.
--- Bigger planes are very predictable, smooth to fly. Glow/Gas flyer's have to relearn the concept of E, for E is a whole new ball game
12-18-2002, 07:49 AM
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Goodies
What goodies are we talking here?
Originally posted by genovia
Yeah, there some out there. Watt-age new sport scales are my favorites, aside from that, I think Gas planes have all the nice goodies.
Yeah, there some out there. Watt-age new sport scales are my favorites, aside from that, I think Gas planes have all the nice goodies.
12-18-2002, 03:58 PM
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I'm coming out with a 103" B-52 for E-power sometime next year due to the fact that while most people who fly electrics like them small there are people flying the bigger ones as well 
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12-18-2002, 05:42 PM
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Re: Large E-power
What size motors are you going to be using?
Originally posted by Mark turner
I'm coming out with a 103" B-52 for E-power sometime next year due to the fact that while most people who fly electrics like them small there are people flying the bigger ones as well
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I'm coming out with a 103" B-52 for E-power sometime next year due to the fact that while most people who fly electrics like them small there are people flying the bigger ones as well
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12-18-2002, 06:40 PM
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How large is large enough? I have 3.5m (140") Super Diamona(Graupner) on 24 cells, am working(forever) on a 150" C-130 with 4 Ultra 3300's. Is that big enough? I also have a Voster Islander 80" span.
You won't find many large electric kit, most of them are gas converted.
Brian, An EAJ in San Mateo.
You won't find many large electric kit, most of them are gas converted.
Brian, An EAJ in San Mateo.
12-18-2002, 07:28 PM
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"Model" Large
I guess I'm taking about about 10 foot wingspans. Anything over 10 foot is not classified as a model (I can't remeber where I read this factoid).
I'm very interested in designing (and selling) large electric kits, if there is a demand for them. I guess you've confirmed that there is a gap in the market.
Check out the "Open" Design forum for a little project some of the guys in this forum, and I, are working on. The plans will always be free, but a kit manufacturer is welcome to use them for commercial purposes as long as they include the full plans and the names of everyone who has worked on the project.
I'd like to build the "Caribou" and the Wellington with a 10 foot wingspan at some stage.
-Q.
I'm very interested in designing (and selling) large electric kits, if there is a demand for them. I guess you've confirmed that there is a gap in the market.
Check out the "Open" Design forum for a little project some of the guys in this forum, and I, are working on. The plans will always be free, but a kit manufacturer is welcome to use them for commercial purposes as long as they include the full plans and the names of everyone who has worked on the project.
I'd like to build the "Caribou" and the Wellington with a 10 foot wingspan at some stage.
-Q.
12-18-2002, 08:33 PM
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a088008,
I am really interested in building larger kit, far larger than what I am building now.
The main reason, why I like to convert instead of building electric kit, it's because electric kit are too expensive. Glow kit's are a bit easy and within my budget.
I would rather buy cheaper kits, and an expensive power house. I almost bought a funfly for $120. But after comparing it with H.O.B funfly's the specs are closely the same. Terrible difference price...
The Bigger, the "E" kits higher the price, Gas kit easy to convert, with right combo, and some are cheaper. Just a thought..
I am really interested in building larger kit, far larger than what I am building now.
The main reason, why I like to convert instead of building electric kit, it's because electric kit are too expensive. Glow kit's are a bit easy and within my budget.
I would rather buy cheaper kits, and an expensive power house. I almost bought a funfly for $120. But after comparing it with H.O.B funfly's the specs are closely the same. Terrible difference price...
The Bigger, the "E" kits higher the price, Gas kit easy to convert, with right combo, and some are cheaper. Just a thought..
12-18-2002, 10:06 PM
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Re: Re: Large E-power
Originally posted by a088008
What size motors are you going to be using?
What size motors are you going to be using?
Will be using the Wemotec mini 480 fan units and still undecided on the actual motors that will power the fans. I have a Beta tester that has already started the construction on the prototype.
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12-18-2002, 10:49 PM
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I agree that the some of the larger e-kits are too expensive.
I like using ferrite brush motors that don't cost an arm and a leg. (An inexpensive gearbox also helps out with torque.)
Also, a plane with many motors is not something you want to invest many brushless motors on.
I like to build with balsa and ply (wire for landing gear), that's it! The plane is light, strong and inexpensive. That coupled with inexpensive motor(s) and ESC(s) make large electrics seem a better alternative to glow (to me anyway).
-Q.
I like using ferrite brush motors that don't cost an arm and a leg. (An inexpensive gearbox also helps out with torque.)
Also, a plane with many motors is not something you want to invest many brushless motors on.
I like to build with balsa and ply (wire for landing gear), that's it! The plane is light, strong and inexpensive. That coupled with inexpensive motor(s) and ESC(s) make large electrics seem a better alternative to glow (to me anyway).
-Q.
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a088008,
I am really interested in building larger kit, far larger than what I am building now.
The main reason, why I like to convert instead of building electric kit, it's because electric kit are too expensive. Glow kit's are a bit easy and within my budget.
I would rather buy cheaper kits, and an expensive power house. I almost bought a funfly for $120. But after comparing it with H.O.B funfly's the specs are closely the same. Terrible difference price...
The Bigger, the "E" kits higher the price, Gas kit easy to convert, with right combo, and some are cheaper. Just a thought..
a088008,
I am really interested in building larger kit, far larger than what I am building now.
The main reason, why I like to convert instead of building electric kit, it's because electric kit are too expensive. Glow kit's are a bit easy and within my budget.
I would rather buy cheaper kits, and an expensive power house. I almost bought a funfly for $120. But after comparing it with H.O.B funfly's the specs are closely the same. Terrible difference price...
The Bigger, the "E" kits higher the price, Gas kit easy to convert, with right combo, and some are cheaper. Just a thought..
12-19-2002, 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by Brian C.
Mark,
The WeMoTec 480 will look very BIG on a 102" B-52, even if you are using only 4 of them instead of 8!!!
Mark,
The WeMoTec 480 will look very BIG on a 102" B-52, even if you are using only 4 of them instead of 8!!!
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12-19-2002, 05:39 AM
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I have a Gee Bee Tigre Moth with 43 inch wing span and I fly it on 14 CP 1700 cells. It gets right at 9 minute flights with a belt driven Meco and a 12 x 8 prop. Normally it would fly with a 30 sized fuel engine. Flys great.
12-19-2002, 03:40 PM
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I think there's a market for some larger e-planes (or else I wouldn't have my kits for sale, which are roughly 40-size planes, but e-power). How about something like my 64", 1150 sq in, 71" long plane that flew on 10 cells and a $25 car motor:
http://www.squid-ink.com/hpn/rc-phot...o/gwright2.zip
Yes, i've decided a larger E3D (probably a touch larger than this yellow plane) will be my next kit, after the stick is finished
http://www.squid-ink.com/hpn/rc-phot...o/gwright2.zip
Yes, i've decided a larger E3D (probably a touch larger than this yellow plane) will be my next kit, after the stick is finished
12-19-2002, 06:44 PM
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VERY GOOD video
Wow!
That plane must be super light!
Nice video and fantastic flying ability! I especially loved the rolling turns!!!
Wow!
What motor/prop/cells/esc are you using?
How much is the kit of this plane?
What radio gear are you using.
Like I said, Wow!
That plane must be super light!
Nice video and fantastic flying ability! I especially loved the rolling turns!!!
Wow!
What motor/prop/cells/esc are you using?
How much is the kit of this plane?
What radio gear are you using.
Like I said, Wow!
12-19-2002, 07:27 PM
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that was a single scratch built plane. It was 4.5 lbs with a Kyosho endoplasma, 10 cells, geared 8.0 to 1 with an MEC monsterbox, spinning an 18X10 APC electric prop. I scaled it down to 75% then started "tweaking" the design. built 6 prototypes with various revisions and ended up with the E3D that I produce now ( www.gwmp.net). I "shrunk" it so that it could be flown on a less expensive gearbox (GD600). that gearbox will only allow up to 4.6 ratio, assuming you use another pinion gear with it, and that restricts the Endoplasma to a 12X8 prop max, hence the smaller size plane. I will be doing a larger version like that yellow one was, but don't have a timeframe at the moment. Have two kits being produced now, and a third I'm working on, so the "big-E" will be somewhat after I release this next one which is a sport plane for the endo/GD600/10-cell setup.
12-20-2002, 02:31 AM
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Gary, the link isnt working right now, any info on when it will work?
Wow is right!
Too bad you couldn't get a pilot who wasn't afraid to do aerobatics more than 10 feet off the ground!!! *tongue firmly in cheek*
Derek
Wow is right!
Too bad you couldn't get a pilot who wasn't afraid to do aerobatics more than 10 feet off the ground!!! *tongue firmly in cheek*
Derek
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Extra 300S
My latest project, Extra 300S 1500mm 3kg
Plettenberg HP 370/40/A3 (2500W max)
17Xsanyo 2000 cells
18-22 prop direct
I will soon start building a SU-31, 2000mm, 5kg, 30 cells, 18X10 prop direct drive with my HP/370 engine, will be using abaout 1800-2000W of 2500W
Plettenberg HP 370/40/A3 (2500W max)
17Xsanyo 2000 cells
18-22 prop direct
I will soon start building a SU-31, 2000mm, 5kg, 30 cells, 18X10 prop direct drive with my HP/370 engine, will be using abaout 1800-2000W of 2500W
12-21-2002, 09:49 PM
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Guess i should have put this mpeg in the thread too. this is my Funtana (26% Katana), IMAA legal (due to 26% scale), 78.5" span and length, 1300+ squares, 30 cells, prototype Hacker motor, 18X10,20X8, 20X10 props (20X8 in this video clip, 2100 watts input), 11.6 lbs ready to fly (60 ounces of that is battery). It has 5 Futaba 9151 digital servos, and a little 1100mah rx pack.
www.rccraze.com/funtana1.mpg
My website at gwmp.net is down at the moment due to the ISP. Should be back up early next week.
www.rccraze.com/funtana1.mpg
My website at gwmp.net is down at the moment due to the ISP. Should be back up early next week.
12-26-2002, 04:14 PM
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Interesting that nobody mentioned any of Tom Hunt's larger kits.
Anyhoo, I like larger e-powered planes largely because of the looks I get from the wet guys at the flying field. Whenever I bring out my 60 inch Pica Waco, my Great Planes P47 (retracts, full flaps, full cockpit), my highly modified 72 inch Astro Hog and especially my Nosen Citabria (nine foot w/s), I get those "knowing" looks and "will it really fly?" questions. I usually just smile and say "Ask me after this flight."
I power my stuff with everything from (relatively) cheap car motors to MaxCim brushless.
I've seen a modified Sig Senior Kadet flying with a geared Mag Mayhem perform amazingly well (don't know gearing or cell count).
So yes, there's a market for larger e-powered models. Converting wet kits is fun, but wastes a lot of money.
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Anyhoo, I like larger e-powered planes largely because of the looks I get from the wet guys at the flying field. Whenever I bring out my 60 inch Pica Waco, my Great Planes P47 (retracts, full flaps, full cockpit), my highly modified 72 inch Astro Hog and especially my Nosen Citabria (nine foot w/s), I get those "knowing" looks and "will it really fly?" questions. I usually just smile and say "Ask me after this flight."
I power my stuff with everything from (relatively) cheap car motors to MaxCim brushless.
I've seen a modified Sig Senior Kadet flying with a geared Mag Mayhem perform amazingly well (don't know gearing or cell count).
So yes, there's a market for larger e-powered models. Converting wet kits is fun, but wastes a lot of money.
Walt