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Sukhoi Su-26M BNF by ParkZone

Old 07-30-2009, 01:49 AM
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ORIGINAL: patzane

I get paid 2morrow and wanted to asks if this Sukhoi worth to buy, and if so what are your reasons.
PROS
1. Micro plane
2. Ready to Bind 2.4GHz
3. Only Retail Micro-plane that uses all control surfaces
4. Only Retail Micro-plane that can do Rolls & Loops
5. A micro that can handle 5-7mph light breeze

CONS
1. Flies too fast for in-house flight. More like in a gym
2. Need baseball in-field size to fly outdoors
3. Inconsistant manufacturing leaving SOME with CG problems
4. Unclear if servos were "zero-ed" at the factory well as the PZ Vapors
5. Motor needs more torque for true 3D.
6. A compuerized transmitter is a must.
7. Brushed Motor

Would you buy it again if you had a "do-over"? YES! It's the only Retail Micro-plane that can do rolls and loops. The consumer can adjust the CG and a computerized transmitter can adjust trims and EXPO. Horizon plans to have a motor upgrade available. DIY Motor upgrades can be had for as little as $30-$40.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:29 AM
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Okay guys, as of this morning the LHS does not have propellers or the landing gear. Does anyone have any extras they would be willing to sell? TIA, Andy
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:29 PM
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Default RE: Sukhoi Su-26M BNF by ParkZone

Flying foot doc, sorry, I don't have any spares.

Has anyone looked into that other forum to see what those guys were using for props and how it is working out?
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:36 PM
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Flew it tonight, Prop actually survived. Much better tonight w/ the battery all the way back, 50% expo and travel decreased and no landing gear. Still rolled pretty twitchy & didn't like inverted, but it flew! Could use more power. I'll probably try some of the higher C rated batteries. Will get to fly again next week. Andy
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:02 PM
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Got my new balancer today, and it says, not for use with Models under two pounds. So yes, if someone would make a balancer for parkflyers and micros - I'd probably be interested. I've got 1 plane over 2 pounds, guess this will give me reason to get another Also recieved a new scale today, pretty neat scale, should be pretty helpful for getting the balance right on these little models.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:15 PM
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Which Balancer? The reason I don't just order up some parts to weld together, is that if you use a stop collet, and drill 2 ............

There are better ways for micros.

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Old 07-30-2009, 11:45 PM
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I got the GP C.G. machine. I made another balancer today for my micros, used 2 old telescoping radio antennas off old airhog radios. Stuck them into a block of wood, seems to work fairly well, and allows for some hieght adjustment...
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:45 PM
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Hi guys, Thanks Wheelnut!
I was on another site with the Sukhoi stuff. I balanced mine by just adding a piece of solder the the underside at the back. It seems to fly great now. Ron
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:19 PM
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Cool. I didn't think of solder.
I was getting ready to cut some of my battery slot back towards the tail. Does anyone who has done this, know how far yo can cut back before you get a hole in your plane all the way into the fuse?
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:49 PM
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dgwaldo, that is the same balancer I use. I have found it good to around 6 ounces. The 2x4 and ace antenna sound good.

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Old 07-31-2009, 08:46 PM
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ORIGINAL: dgwaldo

I got the GP C.G. machine. I made another balancer today for my micros, used 2 old telescoping radio antennas off old airhog radios. Stuck them into a block of wood, seems to work fairly well, and allows for some hieght adjustment...
Somebody here posted a pic of their balancers made with pencils, so I copied that idea. I sharpened the erasers and stuck the pencils in a block of styrofoam. I made small balsa pieces marked at 30mm, and stuck those to the sides of the erasers with pins.....like the GP CG Machine.
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ORIGINAL: dgwaldo

I got the GP C.G. machine. I made another balancer today for my micros, used 2 old telescoping radio antennas off old airhog radios. Stuck them into a block of wood, seems to work fairly well, and allows for some hieght adjustment...
Somebody here posted a pic of their balancers made with pencils, so I copied that idea. I sharpened the erasers and stuck the pencils in a block of styrofoam. I made small balsa pieces marked at 30mm, and stuck those to the sides of the erasers with pins.....like the GP CG Machine.
I tried something similar, but not as elaborate as what you are talking about. Do you have some pics of that?
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:56 PM
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I am out of the stock SU-26 biz until the end of August.. Hopefullt the Micro cristen eagle will fly well and give an at home flyer.

Tim
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:29 AM
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Has anyone here came up with a shaft replasement?
I broke mine tonight and the lhs doesnt have any parts left, hell they only stocked 2 of them.
Im open to any home brew ideas
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:21 AM
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Anyone have a source for thin Velcro so I can use my un-Velcroed batteries (without having to use a small strip of tape to hold the battery in its slot)?

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Default RE: Sukhoi Su-26M BNF by ParkZone

Gene,
I picked up my thin velcro at Home Depot.

So, no one here has tried a different prop yet?? I have searched on RCG but found nothing about other props for the Sukhoi.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:52 AM
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I made an extension for the batt. wire. Now the front of the batt. is about an in. back of the batt. slot, velcroed to the belly of the plane. Couple of pins in the back for fine tuning. Now it flies inverted with no trim change.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:18 AM
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ORIGINAL: Wheelnut

Gene,
I picked up my thin velcro at Home Depot.
Thanks, Wheelnut - I'm off to the store!

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Old 08-01-2009, 11:03 AM
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Default RE: Sukhoi Su-26M BNF by ParkZone

Wheelnut, several folks have tried the GWS 5030 and the 5043 props. Most seem to like it, but most also seem to remark that its speed has increased quite a bit, but overall, they all seem to say it flys better with the GWS props. You need a prop saver or prop adapter though.

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Old 08-01-2009, 02:23 PM
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Thanks micro_builder,
How about a GWS4040 or 4540? I have those in stock. If not, I guess I can order the other two.

I tried out the outrage XP15 130mah battery that was recommended earlier. Sorry can't find the post or remember the guys name.
I ordered two. Fully charged both and headed to the field today. I noticed about a 25 to 30 % increase in speed at the most, which is very good actually. I do memeber the guy saying it was alot faster than that. But anyway, I am happy with the new batteries. I didn't try to hover or anything, I'm not that good of a pilot, but I did notice a good increase in speed and power.
http://www.helidirect.com/eflite-bla...38_236_606.hdx
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Hi,
A few comments regarding two new mini-lipo battery chargers. I am using both of these:
1. CELECTRA by E-flite. Uses 4 of the big"D"cells. Can charge 1,2,3, or 4 of the 70 or 110mAh , 3.75v lipos. For me, this charger really gets a full charge into my batteries.
2.One of the fling-wing guys mentioned using the 3.7v 130mAh batteries. OUTRAGE XP15 3.7V 130mAH 15C - 'Blade MCX And AC Dual-Ch' is the E-Bay listing for some neat 3.7v 130mAh lipos which really perform nicely in the Vapor, Ember, and Sukhoi series. Note that the $ 19.99 includes a 110v AC two outlet charger. It uses the ##$%^tiny connectcors since that is what the model suppliers use.
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I found an Eletrifly 1.5 mm prop adapter (GPMQ4982). I used a carbon rod with with a 3mm I.d. as a sleeve to fit the GWS 5030 prop.

I moved my brick aft of the aileron servo and made new .040 carbon push rods. It now balances perfectly with the stock battery in the center of the battery slot.

Performance is markedly better than stock. Let it go and it goes straight up w/fresh batt. I am going to try a 5043 prop next. I haven't checked the weight yet but without the ballast needed to balance, I would say any change is minimal.
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I found this site for trick explanations. http://www.blaineaustin.com/3d_tips.htm

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ORIGINAL: hookemut

'Blade MCX And AC Dual-Ch' is the E-Bay listing for some neat 3.7v 130mAh lipos which really perform nicely in the Vapor, Ember, and Sukhoi series. Note that the $ 19.99 includes a 110v AC two outlet charger.
hookemut,

Could you please recheck the ebay listing - I can't find the auction you are referring to (that includes the charger).

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Has anyone seen plans to convert the kit-supplied charger to 110V operation? What voltage/amperage converter is required?

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