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    RE: Lightning Build

    Viper2003, do you have any other pictures of how you did the hinging for the elevators? I've thought about doing such a set-up but always shied away from it in the end

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    RE: Lightning Build


    ORIGINAL: papaone
    Wings and stab will be made foam and balsa or scratch built ?
    Hello Claude,

    I love wood, so both will be scratch build.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    I just found this thread and I love the prospects of a gas version. Anychance of getting the plans also for this.

    Thanks in Advance
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Received our short kits and foam cores from Don at Eureka just before years end. Very happy with them. The cnc cutting was very clean and cores are excellent.
    The wood selection was as good as it comes; very definitely 4-6 lb and grain was perfect.
    Have the jig in place and the fuse front cage glued up. The sides are preped and will soon make an attempt at "bending " some balsa.
    Received a new NEU motor with hyde soft mount for it along with some misc hardware.
    Just want to say THANK YOU JEFF for giving us all a great looking design to build. It is just so much more "fun" to enjoy the frustrations of building rather than assembling.
    Hope the new assignment in AZ is going well; is weather year round in that location?

    BTW, Dale gave me some pictures from Walker , prob 90 - 91, where I was calling for you. I do not remember what created the expressions on our faces , probably just as well I don't.
    That was some very good times.

    Mel

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Mel,

    Glad the kit looks good, I hope you enjoy the build. I am preping to build my new wings to get the bird back in the air. I just made new sockets since the carbon wing tube is still good.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Thanks for all the compliments on the kit and wing quality. I do my best to deliver a high quality product

    I have had a lot of requests for built up wings for the Lightning... Both for shipping cost reasons and personal preferences..

    Does anybody out there have a set of built up wing plans that is close the to lightning they can recommend? It will obviously be modified to be an exact duplicate of the foam wing, tube holes and all. The rib shapes are not a problem, they can easliy be produced. I come from a vintage pattern background, so not sure if the older wing construction methods would kep the F3A guys happy..

    Another alternative would be existing wood wings which will work from another source, I can send customers to.

    Thanks in advance for the help...

    Don @ EAC



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    RE: Lightning Build

    Hi Don,

    Perhaps you should talk to Dave Snow? Dsnow on RCU.

    Cheers,
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Hello

    Great job Hans.

    http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php/301355-Selbstbau-des-F3A-Modells-Lightning-%28Holzklasse-!-%29?s=7198827cf5395b4247c253fea8a8c160&p=2653906#post2653906

    How will be finished the fuse, Oracover and paint ?
    Any idea of colours and design ?
    I love balsa
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    RE: Lightning Build


    ORIGINAL: papaone
    .... How will be finished the fuse, Oracover and paint ?
    .... Any idea of colours and design ?
    Hello Claude,
    ... no paint, only Oracover!
    ... no idea. I´m lazy, so i take Jeffs design.

    Regards
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Hello Hans

    Good idea.
    May be Jeff has others pictures !
    I like the look version one of Lightning because big fuse.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Anybody know what the all up weight is? Also, new to F3a so any help on electric motors for this plane would be appreciated.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    I'm happy to announce that built up wings will be available for the Lightning pretty soon now Dave Snow has agreed to modify one of his wing and stab sets to match the Lightning exactly. I will cut them in house to ship with the fuses, and they will also be available separately.
    Have the stab, waiting on the wing. Very nicely designed, to say the least. The jig is awesome. Can't wait to get them both ready
    Don @ EAC

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    RE: Lightning Build

    The all up weight with a Hacker C50 14XL, Hacker Spin 99 ESC, Power Unlimited 4900 batteries, and a 900 mAh receiver battery was 4612 grams as the NATs. This weight is also with an APC prop and a Tru turn spinner, which are not the lightest equipment. The key to making this kind of weight is to not allow and piece of wood that is not the lightest into the airplane. I weighed each part that went into my airplane. Out of all the wood I ordered, the difference between the two heaviest fuselage side sheets and the lightest fuselage side sheet was 3 ounces. Saving a gram here and there really adds up in the end.

    As far as electric set ups, there are many good setups. If you are new to it, I would use a proven combination. There are quite a few threads dedicated to electric set-ups on this forum.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Have the wood wing and stabs added to the Lightning page.  Dave's wings are very impressive, the jigs make it pretty much impossible to make a bad wing      Thanks, Dave!

    Here is a link to a build thread of one of his wing & stab sets.:

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10841584/tm.htm

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Will be purchasing the kit this week from Eureka Aircraft. Not sure if I am going with the foam core or balsa build up wings. Always had balsa ribbed kits but the foam wings doesn't look to hard to build. No vacuum bag system so I would need to just use weights. Also, I noticed the kit is available for either front mounted or rear mounted motors. So I am looking for advice here.

    At this time I am not planning on competing(there are no competitions within 200 miles) Primarily sport flying and experimenting with beginner pattern flying, so I am not needing the hacker $800.00 motor. Hopefully something in the $200-$400 range:AXI, EFLITE 160, RIMFIRE, SCORPION etc.

    Thanks for the help guys!!!

    Mike

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    RE: Lightning Build

    As light as this thing builds, you will get very good performance even with an outrunner in the nose.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Thanks Arch,
    Just not sure what size or what specs to look for. Never had an electric over 4lbs before. Any suggestions on brand and models would be helpful!


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    RE: Lightning Build

    Mike,

    This motor will be perfect and in the right price range:

    http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=332


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    RE: Lightning Build


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    This motor will be perfect and in the right price range:

    http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=332


    I agree.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    I have seen the Himax in action and it would be a great lower cost setup for this airplane.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Himax it is!!!
    Will be ordering the kit and motor this weekend! Now I just need to decide between the balsa wings vs foam cored...



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    RE: Lightning Build

    Jeff,

    Are you going to be at the SVF contest next week here in Phoenix?

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    RE: Lightning Build



    Jeff,

    Are you going to be flying at the SVF contest next week here in Phoenix?

    Steve

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Steve,

    It is looking doubtful, with work, that I will be able to fly in the contest. I will probably come out to visit for a bit.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Jeff,

    I hope that you have the time needed fly. I would really like to be able to see the Lightning up close before I start in on my build. It would also be
    good to meet you as well.

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