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    RE: Lightning Build

    One of these years I will start early enough to be finished before the season starts. At my rate, I should be firing up the CAD program tonight to have next years plane complete on time. Maybe I could design between rounds?
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Awesome build,
    This has encouraged me to pick up the knife and sanding block again. I am still mad at myself for selling my pattern ship last year. If you don't mind, i was wondering what airfoils you were using. I have a couple of ideas but wanted to make sure that i was on the right track.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    If you stick with the NACA 00 or 63 series you can't really go wrong. 0012 or 63012 works just fine. 12% thick, the only real visual difference is where the max thickness occurs along the chord. For our purposes, they'll pretty much fly the same.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    I am using a modified NACA 64012 for the Lightning. The only changes I made were to the trailing edge thickness
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Odds and ends...

    I use a Dean's Ultra connector as an external arming plug. I want a jack that I can remove the plug to take the speed control out of the airplane. I have not found any suitable jacks for this application and the one I have on my current airplane is marginal (it can be removed, but needs a little glue to stay in). Here is what I built out of some 1/16" ply, 1/8" lightply, and a 2-56 blind nut. I will use a shorter screw that the one pictured, that is just what I had on hand. This assembly is glued to the fuselage side, and then a hole is cut out of the side in the shape of the jack.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Please build a second one for me. We can install it tomorrow in the rain.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Hey nice work on that plug box! Maybe just a teeeeeny tiny wrap of carbon fiber around the box when your done? The fuse is seriously looking great too.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    JR,

    That was my thought going in, but once I put the box in the lightply, it was plenty strong. It binds the entire jack together.

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    ORIGINAL: Shimano

    Hey nice work on that plug box! Maybe just a teeeeeny tiny wrap of carbon fiber around the box when your done? The fuse is seriously looking great too.

    Fiberglass might be better... carbon is conductive....
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    RE: Lightning Build

    I use 3/8" dowel hard points for the control horns. To cut the holes, I use a sharpened piece of brass tube in my drill press. Once the holes are cut the dowels are epoxied in. After that cures, I use the Dremel router attachment, with the bit set flush, to shave off the excess dowel. Once that is complete, I use the drill press to drill the hole in the hard point for the control horn.

    It is getting close to time to put away the 60 grit and get this thing fine sanded, glassed and painted/monokoted!
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    ORIGINAL: Viper Driver
    It is getting close to time to put away the 60 grit and get this thing fine sanded, glassed and painted/monokoted!
    Thats what we wana hear!

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Just curious Jeff.. is there a requirement for E-power to have an external arming plug now or is this just a personal preference?
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Doug,

    It's personal preference. I know Jeff puts his canopy on with screws, so its easier to have the arming plug. My canopy just pops right off, so its just as easy to take off the canopy. After seeing Lightning number 1 in person, its a shame these forums can't do the plane justice it is an absolute work of art, and I expect number 2 to be even better,

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    RE: Lightning Build

    FAI has the requirement, I suspect AMA will soon. It's actually a smart thing to do IMHO.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    I don't believe it has to be external to the plane though. I know very few FAI guys that have external plugs. I think you can take the canopy off to do it.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    As I understand it, and I'm apt to be wrong, it has to be external. New rule for this year IIRC.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Interesting...

    I'll have to look into that. Certainly wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong,

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    RE: Lightning Build

    I do not know the status of the rule requiring arming plugs, but I like the ability to disarm the motor without having to remove anything. As Arch stated, I do use screws to hold my canopy on, so an external plug it the only way for me to accomplish this. It is also nice for an unfamilier caller to have a simple way to "shut off" the motor. I guess my career in the flight safety field is showing.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    I've just been using a throttle cut after I land. Then you can just turn the RX power off and the motor can't do anything as it is essentially shut off. Never had an issue. I had gotten the idea from Dave Lockhart. I guess theoretically the motor still has power so it could go, but never seen an issue, but that doensn't mean it can't happen. Takes about 2 seconds to pop off the canopy on my Wind's, so its very easy to disconnect the packs.

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    RE: Lightning Build

    The check cowls are made from ¼” balsa; this leaves plenty of meat for sanding to the desired shape. There is quite a bit of shaping that goes into getting them to fit the contours of the fuselage. The pictures show them squared off, but they will be rounded off during final sanding.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    The Lightning fully assembled for the first time:
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Sweet !!!!!!

    Final weight projection?


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    RE: Lightning Build

    Great work Jeff!!

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    RE: Lightning Build

    Based on comparisons with the prototype at the same stage, I am estimating 10 lb 10 oz. Weight has been under the curve for the entire build, but I can't get lazy now. That "I have plenty of weight to spare" starts to creep in. I have a fairly detailed spreadsheet with weights for almost every piece that has gone into this airplane, although I admit to gluing a few in prior to weighing.
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    RE: Lightning Build

    Looks good Jeff. Wish I were close enough to see it in action.

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