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Old 06-15-2012, 05:42 PM
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Bad idea.  If you really want one, go to their store site and get on the mailing list.  You will get an e-mail when they come in and order immediately.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:52 PM
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Thats funny I was on the mailing list and jumped through all the hoops.

But it was a phone call that got me one ?
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My lightest 10s pack weighs 1106g, my heaviest is 1170 or so. The light ones are zippy compact 10s 25c 5000s, my heavy ones are still light by the standard of what's out there in 2x5s or 10s/5000/20-25c range packs and are made from two 5s 4900 power unlimited packs from F3AUnlimited. If you aren't careful about your battery shopping you'll wind up in the 1300+g range for 10s 5000 packs.

I agree with the folks here keeping your plane light makes a big difference and really recalibrates how you think about weight I know there's some stuff I need to do on my Vanquish to further reduce weight, like reducing wire lengths (the power wires are surprisingly heavy) and there's a few places where I've intentionally indulged the geek in me at the cost of about 100g, but there's no way I'd overbuild the ESC mount you've got there. My ESC is zip-tied onto the bottom of the motor mount box and has been perfectly happy and perfectly cool for well over 100 flights.

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Peter I got a couple questions for you.
1. How are liking the zippy compacts (quality, balance, etc)? at that weight and price I'm really considering getting a couple to try them out.
2. How much does you vanquish weight with the compacts.?

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I think if you look into the Canadian pattern rules you will find that in all classes except FAI you can weigh your electric plane without batteries, so yes you have to be 11lbs but without batteries.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:39 PM
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The flying field today !!!!

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Where are you guys setting your CG and wing Incidence?
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The CG range I have had success with is 7 1/8" - 7 5/16" (181-186mm), now at 186. Wing incidence 0.5-0.6" (limited by accuracy of measurement).
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The CG range I have had success with is 7 1/8'' - 7 5/16'' (181-186mm), now at 186. Wing incidence 0.5-0.6'' (limited by accuracy of measurement).
Shouldn't you be building that Nusance.
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Shouldn't you be building that Nusance.
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Oh yeah, that. Was at the Valley flying my Hsiuqnav this morning. Say, where can I get the esc settings for the Advance?
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Sent you two emails.
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Sent you two emails.
Thanks Joe!

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Oh yeah, that. Was at the Valley flying my Hsiuqnav this morning. Say, where can I get the esc settings for the Advance?
I'd like to see that...flying a Vanquish, backwards!!! Kool
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:41 AM
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Too funny Matt! I just like the name better backwards, although some of my stall turns were more like tail slides recently, LOL! Missed you Sat. D
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Too funny Matt! I just like the name better backwards, although some of my stall turns were more like tail slides recently, LOL! Missed you Sat. D
Ha, ha!! Agreed!! Me too

I was baby sitting Sat....But did go out Sunday with my grandson and Aesthesis... Augie was shooting off model rockets and my grandson just loved it.

I have his trainer just about ready so after the pOCONO, we'll start training him in earnest. Cason loves airplanes most of all...
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Peter I got a couple questions for you.
1. How are liking the zippy compacts (quality, balance, etc)? at that weight and price I'm really considering getting a couple to try them out.
2. How much does you vanquish weight with the compacts.?

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1. I like them a lot, about 30 cycles on each one, internal resistance is 1-3mOhms per cell for a total IR of 18-25 even flying in 105 degree temps this weekend they came down at about 115 degrees. No sign of puffing. I wish I could get more, but they've been out of stock since I got my first pair.

2. Well, before repairs to the LG, my over-equipped Vanquish was at 4860g with the power unlimited packs, so on a fresh Vanquish built the way I built mine I would be at 4800-4810. If I were willing to give up my Emcotec arming switch (which I will do if the rules for arming switches are actually passed and become official) I'd be down to 4750 or so.

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Old 06-19-2012, 03:33 PM
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Just building the back half of the plane , ran wires in a 1/2 " rocket tube down the center of the fuse.

Weight .3oz

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Your going to catch hell for the weight of that tube.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:48 PM
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I know.....I'm waiting for the comments.

I'm thinking by having the tube level with the stab, it should fly inverted much better !
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If I were willing to give up my Emcotec arming switch (which I will do if the rules for arming switches are actually passed and become official)

Why would the rules prohibit them? I think they are the perfect solution. Magnet in show positively that the connection is OFF. Magnet out and the LED lit means you are hot. I LOVE these things and use them in everything I can. It would seem idiotic to me for them to be ruled out from use. In case people don't know what we are talking about, this is it:

http://shop.rc-electronic.com/e-vend...&c=2263&p=2263

I buy mine from a guy in Texas:

http://www.hkm-models.com/Emcotec%20Switches.html

They may add weight, but for the piece of mind of knowing that my airplane is safe it is worth it to me. Plus, like I said, I am never going to have to worry about making weight at the NATS, so I do not obsess about it.

OK, just looked at the proposal again. Seems to be clear that a "physical" break is required. D-U-M DUMB!! A proven system like the Emcotec should be allowed. This sounds like a perfect situation for a cross-proposal to include switches like the EMCOTEC.
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The problem that will likely make them illegal is that they are fail ON, so if there's a problem on the ground the system is HOT. My personal argument is that you need to have a cascade failure of multiple electronic components for that to be a problem but it is a valid safety concern even if the likelyhood of the cascade failure is billion to 1. A couple of people have contacted Emcotec about the fail on problem and they are looking at implementing fail off, but even that wouldn't comply with the proposed rule that requires a physical disconnect.

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I think your using too much down elevator.
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I'll add more down thrust.................
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The problem that will likely make them illegal is that they are fail ON, so if there's a problem on the ground the system is HOT. My personal argument is that you need to have a cascade failure of multiple electronic components for that to be a problem but it is a valid safety concern even if the likelyhood of the cascade failure is billion to 1. A couple of people have contacted Emcotec about the fail on problem and they are looking at implementing fail off, but even that wouldn't comply with the proposed rule that requires a physical disconnect.

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I had not seen anything about the fail closed. But I agree with you, the probability of that happening is almost too small to even think about. If you want to go to that point then what is the probability of a solder joint failing and allowing the circuit to close when using a plug? Bottom line is if I am told I cannot fly due to having a piece of safety equipment, then I'll just go home.

Sorry about the hijack. I'll step away from the keyboard now. [&:]
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