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Perhaps you could meet up with Jarvis, and Bill Wallace up in Perris, or maybe Steve Hannah.. I think an hour or less north of San Diego. I don't know that they have that many active pattern pilots down in San Diego. Maybe Steve Dente, but I don't think he flew in a contest last year. I think most of the guys down there fly Imac first, pattern second. Could be wrong though.
Chris
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Hi Arch,
The Perris field and Hemet field are both about 1hr north of San Diego on I-15. Let us know when you will be in the area. I'm sure that we can get together there. Also, the guys fly electric planes (pattern included) at a field right on Mission Bay near Sea World. I don't know where its at exactly. I think Bill Wallace flew there over the holidays.
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The Perris field and Hemet field are both about 1hr north of San Diego on I-15. Let us know when you will be in the area. I'm sure that we can get together there. Also, the guys fly electric planes (pattern included) at a field right on Mission Bay near Sea World. I don't know where its at exactly. I think Bill Wallace flew there over the holidays.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
What happened to the new Neu?
Cheers,
Jason.
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Thanks Chris,
Since my brand new Neu motor failed, I also had to confiscate that from my standard Visa for a while. You wouldn't happen to have a spare one of those lying around would you???
Looking forward to flying this weekend. Lots of practicing to do.
Thanks Chris,
Since my brand new Neu motor failed, I also had to confiscate that from my standard Visa for a while. You wouldn't happen to have a spare one of those lying around would you???
Looking forward to flying this weekend. Lots of practicing to do.
What happened to the new Neu?
Cheers,
Jason.
I'm not sure exactly what happened to it. It was in my Contra Drive setup on my Visa. Brenner thinks a motor winding shorted out and then caused a failure in the drive due to overheating. The bearings were totally seized up on the drive. I originally thought it was the drive that seized up and then burned up the motor. But, since one winding was shorted out and blackened and the others were fine I think Brenner is right. I sent it back to see what Steve Neu says.
I have had great luck with my Neu motors for the past 18 months. Both of my motors were running great. Absolutely no problems at all. This is my first failure in a long time. Prior to the last 18 month run of no problems, I had to send them back for fan and wire problems. Once they squared that away I've been happy.
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OK, question for all of you California guys. Anyone out there from down around San Diego? I'm going to be there for 4 days later this month and was trying to find someone to fly with. I know Doug is from down there, but was wondering if anyone else was as well.
Arch
OK, question for all of you California guys. Anyone out there from down around San Diego? I'm going to be there for 4 days later this month and was trying to find someone to fly with. I know Doug is from down there, but was wondering if anyone else was as well.
Arch
We have a pretty good group (about 30 active pilots) of precision flyers down here in San Diego. More IMAC than pattern, but many of us fly some of both. You are welcome to join us while you are in town, plenty of planes to share. When will you be in town, and where are you staying?
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Hi Arch,
We have a pretty good group (about 30 active pilots) of precision flyers down here in San Diego. More IMAC than pattern, but many of us fly some of both. You are welcome to join us while you are in town, plenty of planes to share. When will you be in town, and where are you staying?
Steve
ORIGINAL: rcpattern
OK, question for all of you California guys. Anyone out there from down around San Diego? I'm going to be there for 4 days later this month and was trying to find someone to fly with. I know Doug is from down there, but was wondering if anyone else was as well.
Arch
OK, question for all of you California guys. Anyone out there from down around San Diego? I'm going to be there for 4 days later this month and was trying to find someone to fly with. I know Doug is from down there, but was wondering if anyone else was as well.
Arch
We have a pretty good group (about 30 active pilots) of precision flyers down here in San Diego. More IMAC than pattern, but many of us fly some of both. You are welcome to join us while you are in town, plenty of planes to share. When will you be in town, and where are you staying?
Steve
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I get into San Diego late on the 24th. We are flying in to China Lake on Sunday and will work there Monday and Tuesday then head south Tuesday night. Wednesday should be a very light day. Thursday and Friday we should finish in the mornings.
I am staying at the Omni right downtown. Unfortunately I will have very limited transportation and I won't be bringing a plane.
Arch
I get into San Diego late on the 24th. We are flying in to China Lake on Sunday and will work there Monday and Tuesday then head south Tuesday night. Wednesday should be a very light day. Thursday and Friday we should finish in the mornings.
I am staying at the Omni right downtown. Unfortunately I will have very limited transportation and I won't be bringing a plane.
Arch
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Steve/Jarvis
I get into San Diego late on the 24th. We are flying in to China Lake on Sunday and will work there Monday and Tuesday then head south Tuesday night. Wednesday should be a very light day. Thursday and Friday we should finish in the mornings.
I am staying at the Omni right downtown. Unfortunately I will have very limited transportation and I won't be bringing a plane.
Arch
Steve/Jarvis
I get into San Diego late on the 24th. We are flying in to China Lake on Sunday and will work there Monday and Tuesday then head south Tuesday night. Wednesday should be a very light day. Thursday and Friday we should finish in the mornings.
I am staying at the Omni right downtown. Unfortunately I will have very limited transportation and I won't be bringing a plane.
Arch
The electric field at Sea World is only about 10 minutes from your hotel.Your hotel may offer a shuttle service to Sea World. Otherwise, it would be an easy cab ride, or one of us can come down and pick you up. When we fly on weekdaysit is mostly inthe morning.So maybe Wednesday morning will work for you. However, if your schedule restricts you to the afternoon we could probably put together a group for that. I think Friday would probably be the best day. Don't worry about a plane, we have plenty to share. We mostly fly the 2 meter stuff at Sea World. You may be forced to use a JR TX though, I could loan you a red "T" shirt too. LOL!
Let us know what will work best for you.
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That sounds great Arch. I will arrange some flying with the guys for Wednesday morning. PM me your cell phone number, and email so we can keep in touch.
Here is a link to the club and flying site information.
http://www.sefsd.org/
Steve
Here is a link to the club and flying site information.
http://www.sefsd.org/
Steve
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Went down to fly with my friends at the Hollister field on Sunday. Was nice, sunny, no wind to start, but then pretty windy after 2 flights. First time I flew it in any real wind. I'm very happy with the performance. Even down wind in a strong wind it was very constant in speed. I flew FAI P as an unknown because I have only flown in on G4.5 and only a few times there, but with 26 flights on it, I felt very comfortable with it and it flew very well. The battery usage went up as with any plane. I used from 2800 early on in the day to 4000 later in the day. I was really pushing the 21x14 Falcon in the wind though. Would probably have changed props had I brought one. I get in the bad habit of not taking a spare prop to the field.
On one of my takeoffs, Jon Carter was calling for me. I took off, went straight into knife edge and showed him that it truly hold a very long knife edge with 0 mix as I have none still. I'm stoked for pattern season..
Chris
On one of my takeoffs, Jon Carter was calling for me. I took off, went straight into knife edge and showed him that it truly hold a very long knife edge with 0 mix as I have none still. I'm stoked for pattern season..
Chris
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Chris is not kidding when he says he did a LONG knife edge on take-off. It went straight as an arrow. The Nuance looked very good in all maneuvers. I think it is a very impressive airframe.
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A little forward of half way between recommended and Andrews CG. I think that makes it about 270mm. I tried it back at the recommended also and it didn't need any down elevator when inverted which felt weird to me. I also tried Andrews which I felt needed more throw in horizontal stuff obviously. I fly with small amounts of throw in normal flight but I am trying to learn to fly with a little more throw and use less stick. So I may still move it that extra 5mm forward yet. Not sure as right now, I don't have any trim issue's that I have seen. 2 percent down to low throttle for downlines. I have this on a switch so I can turn it off as it affects 45 down lines and some other things (like any other plane with this mix). It's early on, I have 24 flights on it. Going to get 6 more in here in a few minutes..
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That's about where I ended up. I tried moving it forward and I didn't like the feel. After more flights on it I ended up dialing in a little up elevator to rudder mix.
As for props, I have been running the APC 20.5x14. It's been great in the damp sea level air. But when I tried it in dry air at a bit higher altitude it seemed to be overpowered. I never thought I would say a plane was overpowered but I have to say that it is. Andrew J warned me about that. I'm thinking I will experiment with some different props.
As for props, I have been running the APC 20.5x14. It's been great in the damp sea level air. But when I tried it in dry air at a bit higher altitude it seemed to be overpowered. I never thought I would say a plane was overpowered but I have to say that it is. Andrew J warned me about that. I'm thinking I will experiment with some different props.
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I have had 5 flights do far on my Nuance. My flying field is a soft grass strip so I found the undercarriage is raked back too far. The plane wanted to nose forward on take off and landing. I have changed to an old set which is more forward. Also I have extended the length of these to allow for the Contra props at 22inches.
I started with CG forward at 280 mm but I didn't like the response of elevator so it is noe at the recommend setting which feels good. Knife edge is very good( no mixes so far),I did points rolls very axially with no rudder or elevator inputs, snaps fine etc. I think I need to put the addition to the rudder rear for yaw stability. I am happy to start with.
The final weight with Contra and TP 5000 battery is approx 4820g.
I started with CG forward at 280 mm but I didn't like the response of elevator so it is noe at the recommend setting which feels good. Knife edge is very good( no mixes so far),I did points rolls very axially with no rudder or elevator inputs, snaps fine etc. I think I need to put the addition to the rudder rear for yaw stability. I am happy to start with.
The final weight with Contra and TP 5000 battery is approx 4820g.
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Let me share some more pic of my Nuance,
Untail now I has about 30 flights and I love it so much!!!!!
I move Rudder servo to mid of fuselege and use pull-pull system for it!!!!
Untail now I has about 30 flights and I love it so much!!!!!
I move Rudder servo to mid of fuselege and use pull-pull system for it!!!!
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ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite
By this time tomorrow, I should have a flight or two on a Nuance and Osiris 2m. Can't wait!
By this time tomorrow, I should have a flight or two on a Nuance and Osiris 2m. Can't wait!
I noticed that the 3DHS website says the Osiris won't be out until summer. I've been patiently waiting and now I am a little discouraged. Maybe you or Andrew can shed a little light on it's release date.
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I know Andrew just got some revised wings and stabs to test. He really wants the airplane to be 'right' when it's released. Of course, coming from China, every revision means you won't see production airplanes for 3 months due to the time on the water, and it's also Chinese New Year right now I think, so they're not working.
I will definitely ask though. Believe me.. I'm waiting for this to be ready as well!
I will definitely ask though. Believe me.. I'm waiting for this to be ready as well!
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ORIGINAL: patternflyer1
As you can see, I added some 1/4'' balsa to keep the canopy in the right spot when I put it on. It was a bit of a pain in the butt before I did this, now it goes straight on easily.
As you can see, I added some 1/4'' balsa to keep the canopy in the right spot when I put it on. It was a bit of a pain in the butt before I did this, now it goes straight on easily.
Please tell Steve Hannah to do this as well... several of us needed about 6 hands to get his canopy on at the AMA Expo!!!