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Old 01-25-2012, 05:51 PM
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Default Sebart's new pattern ship MYTHOS

MYTHOS debuts soon at Nurnberg international toy fair.
Span 1800mm, length 1900mm, 6 cell lipo.

http://static08.exblog.jp/17549581/
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I'm glad the cowl is removable. I really don't like how limited the 110 Wind is with motor options not requiring cutting things up.
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Wonderful plane. My only concern is that maybe it's a litte big for 6 cells.
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MYTHOS debuts soon at Nurnberg international toy fair.
Span 1800mm, length 1900mm, 6 cell lipo.

http://static08.exblog.jp/17549581/
http://rctips.jp/archives/51938415.html#more
Nice I cant wait they come available
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I think it will come available around this June.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:09 PM
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So, this is then THE real Wind-110 I guess! Verf cool looking plane!

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i need one!
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Seems like an odd size to me. Why not just go the full 2m and be done with it?

I'm more curious to see the new 2m wood biplane he has in the works.
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I think its pitched at the Sportsman to advanced class of pattern flyer.

1.9m x 1.8M is nearly the same size as most full size F3A comp planes but this being probably half the cost.
If it can be flown with 6S LiPo's then its really a cost effective entry level competition plane with a modern look and feel.
Sebart markets it as a trainer.
It s a slightly bigger and updated WInd S 110
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Anybody with experience with the Hacker A60-6X S28P V2 370kV?

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Hi,

According to Sebart catalog 2012 where MythoS 125E is shown the weight is listed as 4400 gram ready to fly less battery. Will a 6 cell LiPo battery really be enough?

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I guess the power of this component is enough, but we might be not able to get enough flight time.....
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As Watts = Volts x Amps it really doesn't matter how many "S" you have in the system because to have to same power you  "just" need more Amps. But more Amps is not good, therefore  ALWAYS go for less A and more V, because of a much better efficiency.



Yes this bird can fly on 6S but with very high Amps, 90-100A, and with a very special motor and batteries, hence at least 50C in order not to kill them after very few flights. Therefore 6S really does not make much sense on this bird.



From my point of view this is a very good step after Wind 110 because it can take almost any motor and be very competitive either on 8S or 10S. If the price will be competitive, hopefully not more than 20-25% higher than Wind110 was, in that case Seba might have a winner over some other new entries in the "balsa 2x2 F3A" segment.



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hi been in the flying game around three years and have a angel s 50 and misswind 50 both seem to fly the pattern stuff ok and thats on 6s 4000 at around 7mins
the mythos looks nice but as it seem to way more then the 2m wind s pro
dont see how it works on 6s for the time needed for the pattern stuff around 7 mins plus flying (sorry about the spelling)
although new ish to the flying thing the sebart guy seems to know what he is doing
both the misswind and the angel are very smooth

although iv only flown the above planes and a short bit of time on a wot 4 and an exstream flight 48" vanquish maybe i dont know what im talking about
vanquish was ok to

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The retail price is announced 69,000 Japanese yen (include 5% VAT). About 660 EUR.
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The retail price is announced 69,000 Japanese yen (include 5% VAT). About 660 EUR.
This is strange because even with a 4500 or 5000mAh 6S the model will weigh over 5kg, because these batteries will weigh at least 700 grams. Some of the numbers are not quite right. Also, turning a 20x12 prop on a 6S??
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hi cmoulder think your right although i use the filght max from hobby city at 590 gms 6s 4000 which i think  is light ! and does work well plus 300 charges on each pack would not fly a mythos over 4 mins 

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I don't know, but then I don't have any experience with this size model. I have two 2-meter ships (flown on 5S x 2 in series) and a 62-inch wingspan Osiris which I fly on 5000 or 4400mAh 5S.

So given the numbers of your pack weight, 4400g + 590g = 4990g. If they're correct, this model's weight is already on the ragged edge of 5kg.

It will be interesting to see the feedback from guys when they're actually flying them this spring and summer.
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hi can you tell me the weight of your 5000g 5s packs on your osiris so i can compare with the angel and misswind which both run 4000 6s for seven mins

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how does the osiris fly ?       

 
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The weight seems in the ball park for a 1.9m x1.8m plane with motor and ESC.

You can probably lop 400gr off the plane by binning the Sebart landing gear. Those units are made of depleted Uranium
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well i hope they dont go bang if i buy one !!

thanks for reply lets wait and when some one buys 1 ! 

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Hello my friend.
I hope all is ok for you.
Will you test this plane? if yes please make us a report.
I think I will get one too.
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hi can you tell me the weight of your 5000g 5s packs on your osiris so i can compare with the angel and misswind which both run 4000 6s for seven mins

thanks regards Gordon

how does the osiris fly ?

Gordon, the Zippys (20C) are 581g, Nanos (25C) are about 623g, Sky 4400 (40C) are 570g, Rhinos (20C) are 617g. I don't fly it with the Rhinos because they are dedicated pairs for the 2-meter models. It performs well with all of them. Less flight time with the Sky 4400s but the performance is superb and enough to fly AMA Advanced plus time left over for few more maneuvers. Doubled them up and flew them in the Spark with identical results.

It should be noted that my Osiris is set up to be light and weighs 6lb 5.5oz with the sky 4400s.
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thank you for your reply's 
just some thing different we have a lady flying here, 27 has sort skirts high shoes, and does her hair nice and makeup 

but she can fly well does a beautiful bouncing rolling circuit to the left and right at 10ft of the ground is good!!! hope she doesn't go into F3a she might win !!
and some how seem to put me of flying    don"t why  !!!! 
       
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