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Old 04-05-2012, 06:16 PM
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Anyone using this motor in pattern? I flew a friends Onas with his motor recently and it has scary power with a APC 21 x 14. Had the power curve dialed back to 90% and never got over 3/4 throttle in uplines. Seems too good to be true at $214.00 Seemed easy on battery consumption too.

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Andrew Jesky has one in his 2M Osiris prototype. I have seen it fly and that motor is indeed, very strong. I have the same motor in the plane I am finishing right now! It really is a great price for a very good motor.

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Old 04-06-2012, 06:26 AM
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What are the dimensions of the motor? Aero-Model site lists it as 2.44 inches. Is that the dimension from the back of the motor to the front of the thrust washer? Does it include the mounting plate? Also, does the listed weight include the prop nut/washer? Any details drawings available?

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I got this from the Hacker Germany 2011 catalog
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Thanks for finding the drawing.

Maybe I don't know how to read this drawing but I still don't understand what the distance is from the back of the mount to the front of the thrust washer/plate (where the back of the spinner backplate would rest). If the 65.5mm dimension for the A60S is meant to be that dimension, the drawing may be wrong.

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I believe the 65.5mm is the length of the can, to that you'll have to add 17.5 to 22.5 to where the propeller sits depending on where you mount the drive washer.
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Woodie, the best I can decipher is 65.5mm for the length of the can (A60-S) and another 19mm from the front of the can to the front of the thrust washer/plate for a total of 84.5mm. According to the schematic above there are 3 versions fo the A60: XS, S and M. Everette
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That makes sense. So, if we take the mount/can + minumum thrust washer distance (65.5 + 17.5mm) that would be 83mm from the firewall unless we didn't use the mount, then it would be approx 79mm?

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We are flying tomorrow, I will measure from the firewall to the thrust washer and see what we get. If I recall from looking at the motor installed in the plane the motor was ever so slightly longer than the HIMAX.

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Woddie,

The 83mm is a correct measurement. Taken off the motor today, firewall to thrust washer.

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Thank you maustin

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Should work nicely in my Dalotel
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:02 PM
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Hello Richard!

Please post pics of your installation and flight report.

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Hi Bob, e mail me, I have some additional info about this particular motor. Everette
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I flew Andrew's Osiris 2m with this motor in it and it had PLENTY of power. P13 was not a problem at all.
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Hi Doug, I'm sure that flying AJ's plane was quite a thrill. Just out of curiosity, how long did you fly it, did you get to fly your pattern sequnce and did you have the chance to check how many mah you used or the post-flight voltage of the batteries? I'm trying to determine the efficiency of this particular Hacker motor. No doubt it has to be a strong combination! Thanks in advance, Everette
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Does anyone have this motor? What are the actual weights?
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Ok, finally got around to getting some operational data on my setup. Fresh Turnigy 5000mah bats, HV85 ESC, APC 20x13 prop. Using a E-Station meter got the following at full throttle: 64.4amps, 2555 watts, 6400 RPM. Would going to a 21x14 be a problem? Anyone else have similar numbers? Motor compares equally in power to my Himax 210.

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That's good information.

I was getting ready to order one today? I was planning on running a 20.5x15.5 or the RASA 20.2x16 on my Black Magic VF3 for F3A. I have put the order off several times, cause I can't get any real motor comparisons to make up my mind. All the data I have found "suggests" the Hacker will turn (A60-7S-V2) up to a 22x12 @ 74 Amps on 10S setup?

I have a Pletty EVO 30-10 in my other VF3, if the Hacker is as strong as that motor, I have no doubts about using it. My motivation in using the motor is to find a good inexpensive alternative setup for guys wanting to move to a 2 meter bird without all the costs of outfitting, etc.

The A60-7M-F3A is a very close relative of the A60-7S-V2 and the data for that motor is on Hackers webpage,..translate it to English unless you read German.


Let me know what you find out,..I think you will be fine running the 21x14. I would guess you will be around 6000 RPM's, only one way to find out.



PM AJesky or Flyboy91 as he is running one in his proto type Asiris 2m, reports are the motor is very strong.


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Got some test flights in this morning on my Pentathlon that weighs a tad over 11.5lbs(glowconversion) with bats. The 20x13 did a decent job with the Adavanced sequence. Tach before takeoff was 6700. Woohooo! Plane flew well but could have used more umph in the lines. Overall was ok in calm air. Had 25% bat capacity remaining and bats warm to the touch. Ambient temp was mid 90's at 10am. Ouch. Next came the 21x13W. Tach on the ground was 6350 before takeoff. Much improved performance right off the bat. Cruise speed was 1/2 to 3/4 throttle but verticle was unlimited at full throttle. Cruise speed was around 1/2 throttle and most verticles at max 3/4. Much easier on bat comsumption this time. Landed after a 7 min flight with 39% left. Obviously could be pushed much more if windy. Will try the 20x14 next weekend.

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Good stuff.

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ORIGINAL: BHolsten

That's good information.

I was getting ready to order one today? I was planning on running a 20.5x15.5 or the RASA 20.2x16 on my Black Magic VF3 for F3A. I have put the order off several times, cause I can't get any real motor comparisons to make up my mind. All the data I have found "suggests" the Hacker will turn (A60-7S-V2) up to a 22x12 @ 74 Amps on 10S setup?

I have a Pletty EVO 30-10 in my other VF3, if the Hacker is as strong as that motor, I have no doubts about using it. My motivation in using the motor is to find a good inexpensive alternative setup for guys wanting to move to a 2 meter bird without all the costs of outfitting, etc.

The A60-7M-F3A is a very close relative of the A60-7S-V2 and the data for that motor is on Hackers webpage,..translate it to English unless you read German.


Let me know what you find out,..I think you will be fine running the 21x14. I would guess you will be around 6000 RPM's, only one way to find out.



PM AJesky or Flyboy91 as he is running one in his proto type Asiris 2m, reports are the motor is very strong.


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I couldn't find any info on the A60-7M-F3A, do you have a link?

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Yep,.. I do...

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...r-motor.com%2f


My bad,..I meant Q60-7M-F3A...[&:]






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Anyone put bigger props on this motor? What type of watts is it getting with bigger props?

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Rob,
My flying partner has a new Onas with my exact setup and runs the APC 21x14. It has not problem at all. In fact he flys most of the flights at 90% power. I think the rpm's he is getting are around 6350 - 6400. Not info on watts yet.

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