luckymacy

Is anyone using this combo and would care to share what settings you are using? I'm especially curious what Advance Timing setting you are using. I have the Advance Timing set to 0 because the Himax instructions say, on their suggested Phoenix settings example, to set the timing to 'LOW (0)'. However, on the OS ESC, they say 0-10 is for in-runner motors and 14-25 is for out-runner. They don't define 11-13.

If you set an outrunner to the advance of in inrunner what would be the effect on the batterys/rpm, if anything?

woodie

Lucky

Try 24 degrees for the Advance Timing on the OS1100. The setting values for a Castle and an OS ESC are very different. A Castle 'zero' of 'Low' doesn't mean the same thing as an OS or Jeti 'zero'.

Woodie

blake26m

What is the pole count of this motor? 20 poles is the max the OS ESC will allow. I tried a 28 pole motor on it before and it did not work. I think the 6330 Pro is 24 stators with 20 magnets so 20 pole.

Mikey

luckymacy

Yes, this is the newer 20 pole version of the motor.

http://www.f3aunlimited.com/himax-hc6330pro

luckymacy

Woodie, what are you basing your 24 degrees of advance on? I found in my Himax instructions a sentence that says "Jeti brushless ESC: set timing to HIGH or Outrunner mode. I don't know anything about the Jeti ESC nor if software setting wise the OS and Jeti are similar.

luckymacy

I talked to a tech at MAXX today and they were also unfamiliar with the OS ESC. They didn't have a specific number to recommend for the ESC setting. Asked me to experiment (suggest I start in the middle of the outrunner range) and get back with them so they could update the instructions if I found a setting that noticeably curtailed the high current draw I'm seeing now. nice.... ;-)

f3a05

On the basis that Himax motors of this type copy Plettenberg motors quite a bit (!), I'd say use 24 degrees advance----that's what Plettenberg recommend for both their Evo30-10, and the Advance 30-10.
That works fine with both the OS,and the Jeti Spin 99, ESCs.

luckymacy

Thanks. I'll give 24 a shot.

smcharg

My Feedback: (1)

I had the 6330 and the OS ESC in a Pilot Sbach 342 26% and set it to 24 as well. The motor was very stable and mah draw was what I expected it to be hauling a 13 lb airplane around. I think this setting will be very good for you.

ltc

My Feedback: (3)

If the HiMaxx is equivalent to the Plettenberg Evo 30-10 as you stated above, Pascal at Plettenberg provided the following setup information
24 degrees
16KHz PWM

I have been running with a Mezon 90 and the Evo 30-10 runs very well at these settings.

lsjpeng

Here is my settings. I had more than 400 flights already.

[TABLE="width: 246"]
[TR]
[TD]OS OCA1100HV 100A 50V ESC[/TD]
[TD]6330-Pro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vehicle type[/TD]
[TD]Air[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Battery type[/TD]
[TD]LiPo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cut off voltage[/TD]
[TD]Auto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cut off type[/TD]
[TD]Soft[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Motor direction[/TD]
[TD]x[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Advance timing[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Acceleration
[/TD]
[TD]Low[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Start power[/TD]
[TD]Low[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brake type[/TD]
[TD]90%
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Air brake [/TD]
[TD]ON[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Motor pole number[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gear ratio[/TD]
[TD]1:1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
If you were using Castle ESC, few comments:
1. Throttle response is more sensitive and smoother
2. Throttle curve may need jack up a little bit at mid range
3. OS "80%" braking power is roughly equivalent to "30%" setting of CC ESC.
4. Max. brake you can use on CC ESC is 30%, more than that will guarantee your motor "squeak" when pull out from idle dive. (there are lots of discussion in RCU already....)
5. You may set up to 100% on OS w/o any issue. The brake is so strong that my down line looks like slow motion.
6. In general the motor runs more hot than using CC ESC. Roughly gaining100-200 rpm more. If not careful in throttle management, the result is higher power usage.

Overall, you will love the OS ESC.

griff7166

My Feedback: (2)

I have uses the os esc with the pro and Standard f3a himax Motors with the timing 24 Motors poles at 20 for the pro and. 14 for the Standard 5330 with no issues it is a very good and very reliable. I hope this helps I also use 80% brake

Alex Voicu

I need some help with the OS controller. I set the throttle positions following the instructions manual and programmed the setting posted above with the OCP1 programmer.

My problem is that the motor only starts at ~25-30% throttle. With the Castle Creations Ice 80HV, the motor started with only 1-2 clicks of throttle.
My radio is an Airtronics SD-10G, the motor is a Himax 210. Before setting the throttle positions, i set the EPA on the throttle channel at 0 for low position and 100 at high position (as recommended in the instructions manual).

Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks.

griff7166

My Feedback: (2)

I used to fly that setup .put your transmitter at defaults for the throttle. Set the end points by arming the esc with 100% stick wait till the weard beep. Then go to zero and wait for the same beep, if you still have the issue go to the throttle curve menu and set the bottom value up until the motor spins the back down one or two points.

Hope this helps

Alex Voicu

Thanks Matt. Yes it works, but i was worried that the brake might not engage because at low throttle, the ESC will read a value above the programmed 0 (idle) position. The motor stops quickly though, so it looks like the brake is in fact engaged.

griff7166

My Feedback: (2)

The esc brake works on the motor rpm to input voltage . That's why the brake is not effect by the end points. So if the rpm of the motor is higher than the input voltage it applys brake and the stop speed is based on how much brake you use. Thatswas the way I was explained by castle and jetti

Alex Voicu

That's interesting Matt. I hope throttle resolution won't be a problem. With the CC Ice 80HV, the throttle curve went from -100 to +100. With the OS, the throttle curve goes from +10 to +100. If the weather allows, i will test it on Sunday.
Thanks again.

Alex Voicu

I tested the OS speed controller yesterday with great results. I tried several settings but in the end i settled on 95% braking, probably because i use a higher pitch propeller (20.5x14.5 Falcon). I found it much easier to control the speed on the second half of the golfball in the F15 schedule. Even with a few clicks of throttle, it still keeps the speed constant. 100% brake works too, but at low speed the propeller stops immediately after cutting the throttle.

The throttle curve is very different compared to the ICE 80HV. It now goes from +10 to +90, while for the ICE it was going from -100 to +100. Some static tests were needed to find the values for idle and full throttle, but after that i set the rest of the points proportional to what i used before and it worked great. Throttle resolution is not affected and the motor runs smoother.

griff7166

My Feedback: (2)

Alex, I am glad that you are happy with it. I like the ESC very much and would still be using it . but now that I am a jetti pilot I must use there product. the Mezon is very much like the os with in reguards to the brake. again I am happy for you, see ya around
Matt

Alex Voicu

Thanks Matt. I liked it so much that i ordered another one today. I heard the Mezon is great too, but the OS was cheaper so i decided to try it.

picard1

My Feedback: (2)

Just called tower, tried to order ESC but showing out of stock. Normally, when you place an order with them it will allow you to back order item. Not this time. Called Tower and was told this ESC has been discontinued.... Looking for another brand that any of you may be using? Who sells Mezon?


Mike

ltc

My Feedback: (3)

F3AUnlimited sells them
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/catalogs...esult/?q=Mezon
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