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    GWS Formosa-II

    I received a Formosa-II pre-production sample from Mr. Lin (CEO of GWS) in iHobby show, LA in October. I finally got it done during the Thanksgiving weekend. Here are few pictures together with my other engine power airplane just for caomparison. The Formosa-II is designed for aerobatic-3D flight, but Mr. Lin wants me to expolre its pattern flight capability, so I will post my test results later.

    The size is about the same as a 30 size glow engine power airplane, I don't expect it will be as sharp as those purpose-designed e-patternship, but I will try how far it can go.

    Power is a Himax HC3510 brushless outter runner, Phoenix 25 ESC, 3S Li-Po, APC 10X5E. Any comments are welcome.
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    Too bad it has that big rudder overhang.

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    or is it a rudder hangover <g>

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    Nice finish job! Is that paint or decals? Looking forward to that flight report - with video I hope!

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    ORIGINAL: DT56

    Nice finish job! Is that paint or decals? Looking forward to that flight report - with video I hope!

    DT56
    It's Testors spray paint (3 Oz can) for plastic models (also works for styrofoam). It took more than 48 hours before I could apply mask tape for the next color.
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    Luke - It looks good. Let me know when you are going flying sometime, I would like to see it in person.

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    ORIGINAL: Surefire

    Luke - It looks good. Let me know when you are going flying sometime, I would like to see it in person.

    Jon Carter
    Sure, I will call you. I fly e-plane at Rancho San Antonio, not Tomcats.
    This weekend already booked by kids' activities, so probably next weekend. [8D]
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    So when will the formosa II be available?
    Looks like a great plane!
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    ORIGINAL: RickC2009

    So when will the formosa II be available?
    Looks like a great plane!
    rickc
    I believe it just arrived US, will be distributed to local hobby shops soon. There're lots of building thread in rcgroups.com, check here:
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422347

    I heard some complains about those over-sized rudder and elevator, especially during low speed high angle-of-attack flight. I'm waiting my battery packs so I haven't flown yet. We will see.


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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    OK, finally got chance to fly this baby.

    12/17/05

    First flight

    Initial settings:
    Elevator: D/R 60%, EXP 60%, Throw +-1.5cm
    Rudder: D/R 60%, EXP 40%, Throw +-2.5cm
    Aileron: D/R 60%, EXP 60%, Throw +-1.0cm
    Thrust: side 2 degrees right, down 0.5 degrees
    Himax 3510 (250W) outer runner brushless, 25 Amp ESC, 2200mAh/12C Li-Po. APC 10x5 at 5800 rpm.

    Elevator: a little bit too sensitive
    Aileron OK, but need more EXP
    Rudder response poor []
    Not enough vertical for pattern contest
    Longitudinal unstable at low speed
    Able to handle up to AMA Intermediate class sequence except the vertical line no good

    Second flight adjustments
    Elevator: D/R 70%, EXP 70%
    Rudder: D/R 80%, EXP 50%
    Aileron: D/R 70%, EXP 75%
    Both of pitch and roll are much better
    Rudder seems still not enough []

    Flight was inttrupted by a GWS Tiger Moth that crossed my flight path and......... The result was my 5th mid-air in 20 years. The Tiger Moth was chopped into pieces, I mean PIECES! [:@]

    However, the F-II was much tougher than I expected, only few scratches on left wing leading edge...... still flyable! It took me 3 hours to paint it back like new (yah, I'm very picky...)

    12/18/05
    Third flight

    New power:
    Replaced by a Himax 3610 outer runner (350W), 45A ESC. But no new battery, still the 2200mAh/12C, so I had to reduce the throttle EPA to 30% in order not to over drive the battery. APC 11x7E turning at 6900 rpm. (we pattern animals never complain about too much power...)

    Rudder: D/R set to 100%
    Vertical: endless
    Longitudinal unstable under 20-25 MPH wind
    Rudder response still unsatisfied []
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    I had more than 20 flights on my F2 so far. I was able to finish whole Master sequence with this ~$45 ARF, that really surprised me (although not so solid as my 140-size glow powered patternship).

    I put ~$250 to upgrade power and some modifications, but still, much cheaper than a standard 120-size engine plattermship.

    My F2 is powered by a Himax 3516 outer runner brushless (350W), APC 11x7E, 3S 2100mAh/16C LiPo, weighs 34 Oz.

    Modifications:
    1. Power upgrade to 350W
    2. Replace the landing gear struts. Old is 2mm, new is 3/32" (~2.38mm) in diameter.
    3. Enforcement of two elevator halves linkage so they won't twist in high-G maneuvers.
    4. Add supports in mid of each push rod to reduce control tolerance.

    In my opinion, the modified F2 is very competitive and up to the Intermediate class....... and it is cheap!

    Overall, the F2 is a good aerobatic plane for entry level.
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    That looks sweet, great job!!!

    Much better than the stock photo.

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    I am considering the Formosa or Formosa 2. I have an E-Flight Park 370 outrunner needing a plane. Have any of you used this motor on the Formosas? How did it work?
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    I had to build a Formosa II They look fantastic, and I got it for free from my brother. I am looking forward to better weather to fly it and put it through some paces. The paint job in this thread inspired me to take some time and make mine look good. Is there anyone out there who is using the stock reccomended power set up?
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    Just add one more battery cell that will fix most problems!

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    where can this said airplane be found ....LHS?
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    ORIGINAL: ChrisHays

    where can this said airplane be found ....LHS?
    Try search from GWS's website.

    http://www.gws.com.tw/english/dealer/dealer.htm
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    ORIGINAL: C141FlyGuy

    I had to build a Formosa II They look fantastic, and I got it for free from my brother. I am looking forward to better weather to fly it and put it through some paces. The paint job in this thread inspired me to take some time and make mine look good. Is there anyone out there who is using the stock reccomended power set up?
    For sports fly, the original twin-350 works fine. However, it is somewhat under power for advanced aerobatics.
    I wrote an article about F2 that will be published in NSRCA newsletter "K-Factor". You may find it in NSRCA D7 website:
    http://www.nsrca.org/d7/
    Click on top left "Formosa II article". Hope it helps.
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    Thanks... humm can you say "brushless"
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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    So, whats flying like with this thing?

    Is it capble of extreme 3D (hovers and torque rolls)? Or is it still a pattern plane?

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    RE: GWS Formosa-II

    Build a bigger rudder. Use foam.. It is easy, I've done it many times on my old planes .

    Good luck.
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