Sebart's new pattern ship MYTHOS
 

MYTHOS debuts soon at Nurnberg international toy fair.
Span 1800mm, length 1900mm, 6 cell lipo.

http://static08.exblog.jp/17549581/
http://rctips.jp/archives/51938415.html#more

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I'm glad the cowl is removable. I really don't like how limited the 110 Wind is with motor options not requiring cutting things up.

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Wonderful plane. My only concern is that maybe it's a litte big for 6 cells.

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Nice I cant wait they come available

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I think it will come available around this June.

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So, this is then THE real Wind-110 I guess! Verf cool looking plane!

Volkert

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i need one!

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Seems like an odd size to me. Why not just go the full 2m and be done with it?

I'm more curious to see the new 2m wood biplane he has in the works.

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I think its pitched at the Sportsman to advanced class of pattern flyer.<div>
</div><div>1.9m x 1.8M is nearly the same size as most full size F3A comp planes but this being probably half the cost.</div><div>If it can be flown with 6S LiPo's then its really a cost effective entry level competition plane with a modern look and feel.</div><div>Sebart markets it as a trainer.</div><div>It s a slightly bigger and updated WInd S 110</div>

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Anybody with experience with the Hacker A60-6X S28P V2 370kV?

Volkert

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Hi,

According to Sebart catalog 2012 where MythoS 125E is shown the weight is listed as 4400 gram ready to fly less battery. Will a 6 cell LiPo battery really be enough?

/Bo

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I guess the power of this component is enough, but we might be not able to get enough flight time.....

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As Watts = Volts x Amps it really doesn't matter how many "S" you have in the system because to have to same power you  "just" need more Amps. But more Amps is not good, therefore  ALWAYS go for less A and more V, because of a much better efficiency.</p>

Yes this bird can fly on 6S but with very high Amps, 90-100A, and with a very special motor and batteries, hence at least 50C in order not to kill them after very few flights. Therefore 6S really does not make much sense on this bird.</p>

From my point of view this is a very good step after Wind 110 because it can take almost any motor and be very competitive either on 8S or 10S. If the price will be competitive, hopefully not more than 20-25% higher than Wind110 was, in that case Seba might have a winner over some other new entries in the "balsa 2x2 F3A" segment.</p>

Velco</p>

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hi been in the flying game around three years and have a angel s 50 and misswind 50 both seem to fly the pattern stuff ok and thats on 6s 4000 at around 7mins
the mythos looks nice but as it seem to way more then the 2m wind s pro
dont see how it works on 6s for the time needed for the pattern stuff around 7 mins plus flying (sorry about the spelling)
although new ish to the flying thing the sebart guy seems to know what he is doing
both the misswind and the angel are very smooth

although iv only flown the above planes and a short bit of time on a wot 4 and an exstream flight 48" vanquish maybe i dont know what im talking about
vanquish was ok to

regards Gordon

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The retail price is announced 69,000 Japanese yen (include 5% VAT). About 660 EUR.

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This is strange because even with a 4500 or 5000mAh 6S the model will weigh over 5kg, because these batteries will weigh at least 700 grams. Some of the numbers are not quite right. Also, turning a 20x12 prop on a 6S??

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hi cmoulder think your right although i use the filght max from hobby city at 590 gms 6s 4000 which i think  is light ! and does work well plus 300 charges on each pack would not fly a mythos over 4 mins <div>
</div><div>what do you think       </div>

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I don't know, but then I don't have any experience with this size model. I have two 2-meter ships (flown on 5S x 2 in series) and a 62-inch wingspan Osiris which I fly on 5000 or 4400mAh 5S.

So given the numbers of your pack weight, 4400g + 590g = 4990g. If they're correct, this model's weight is already on the ragged edge of 5kg.

It will be interesting to see the feedback from guys when they're actually flying them this spring and summer.

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hi can you tell me the weight of your 5000g 5s packs on your osiris so i can compare with the angel and misswind which both run 4000 6s for seven mins<div>
</div><div> thanks regards Gordon</div><div>
</div><div>how does the osiris fly ?       <div>
</div><div> </div></div>

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The weight seems in the ball park for a 1.9m x1.8m plane with motor and ESC.<div>
</div><div>You can probably lop 400gr off the plane by binning the Sebart landing gear. Those units are made of depleted Uranium</div>

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well i hope they dont go bang if i buy one !!<div>
</div><div>thanks for reply lets wait and when some one buys 1 ! </div><div>
</div><div>regards Gordon </div>

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Hello my friend.
I hope all is ok for you.
Will you test this plane? if yes please make us a report.
I think I will get one too.
Best regards.
Philippe

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Gordon, the Zippys (20C) are 581g, Nanos (25C) are about 623g, Sky 4400 (40C) are 570g, Rhinos (20C) are 617g. I don't fly it with the Rhinos because they are dedicated pairs for the 2-meter models. It performs well with all of them. Less flight time with the Sky 4400s but the performance is superb and enough to fly AMA Advanced plus time left over for few more maneuvers. Doubled them up and flew them in the Spark with identical results.

It should be noted that my Osiris is set up to be light and weighs 6lb 5.5oz with the sky 4400s.

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thank you for your reply's <div>just some thing different we have a lady flying here, 27 has sort skirts high shoes, and does her hair nice and makeup </div><div>
</div><div>but she can fly well does a beautiful bouncing rolling circuit to the left and right at 10ft of the ground is good!!! hope she doesn't go into F3a she might win !!</div><div>and some how seem to put me of flying    don"t why  !!!! </div><div>       </div>

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Hello Philippe. I'm fine thank you.

I am waiting for a next report of Mythos written by a Japanese dealer who is an intimate of Seba. His first report is already expressed as I showed a link that was put on the top of this thread. He will report information of this plane again in detail in the near future. I am going to inform you soon.

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So for Us will be around 865.00

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Just judging by the photo with the (human) model, the airframe looks bigger than two meter! She is either VERY petite, or she has been inserted into the picture. Beautiful airplane! I'm interested!

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The photo was made with a wide-angle lens which distorts the perspective.

Compare the tail volume to the volume of the forward part. Of the airplane, I mean.;)

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Ah, I can see what you mean now... the Gestalt Law of Proximity... The model does have very nice spinners;)

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Guys

The weight figure of 4400 grams must include batteries, otherwise it could not make the 5000 gram limit. My Wind 110 weighs less than 4400grams with an 8S 4500 pack. The stats for the reccomended Hacker A60-6XS V2 are 6S 45C 5000 battery and a 120HV C/C controller giving 2220 watts at 100 amps on an APC 20x11 prop. This means I would have to buy a new motor / controller. I would just change over my 8S setup if I decide to buy this model, the Hacker A60-5S gives 2380 watts at 80 amps on 8S on a 20x10 APC.

John

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Hi John think you may be right the 8s set seems to be the right way to go for this size plane, will be nice to know how much its going to be As the EF Vanquish 2m is now &pound;599 at west london models and that looks good as iv had one out of the box

regards Gordon

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I agree the weight must include battery if not it will never make weight. Thunder powers pro-lites 6S-5000mah are 708 grams, almost every other battery will be heavier.

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From the Sebart web site, its cost in Europe is 599 Euros.
The mistery about the real weight remains.
Seba and Selva are going to use it in the next San Marino contest.

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Ok so at 599 Euros it will probably be around £500 in the UK which is just about the price of a Vanquish 2M or a Monolog 2M. I have a spare 2M drivetrain sitting about doing nothing and was considering a wooden model such as the Vanquish or Monolog, now we something else in the mix. My Axi 5330 / 18 is around 170 grams heavier than the reccomended Hacker A60 6XS and needs 10S battery so I reckon it would be pretty close to 5000grams. Would this be a bit heavy for the wing area? An accurate weight would be usefull.

John

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Hi
Does anyone know if Sebart will discontinue the Wind 110 in favour of the Mythos?

Mike

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In the latest 2012 Sebart Catalog the Wind 110 is no longer listed.
Also, the Mythos weight has been corrected - 3.65Kg without batterys.
Another interesting point - Sebart shows the Mythos 6S set-up as a recomendation for the 140 class Su29's !

Steve

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Hi,

Lindinger (Austria) has MythoS 125E listed now (not in stock) for579.90 Euro.

/Bo

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It seems that full size MYTHOS is available later this year or early next year.
SebArt has this plan.

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The Mythos ARFs have shipped and will arrive to us next week - will post some pics as soon as they arrive. Available in red/blue and yellow/black schemes