Sebart Wind 110
 

Hi
Does anyone have any info on the new Sebart Wind 110. How it performs, does it have demoutable tail, control set up etc, Or is it still Top Secret in the Sebart Skunk works?

Mike

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Agreed we need to know!!!!

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Please, look at:

http://www.sebart.it/!-html/110Eclass.htm

regards, Lineu

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www.fedonaircraft.net

www.fedonaircraftbrasil.com

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I have some info.......They haven't been shipped here yet so you
can't buy one yet !!
Arrival date was end on August.....Now it's end of September.

tommy s

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Hi
Not to put to fine a point on it. You have told me exactly what I already knew about the plane. But nothing that I wanted to know. How does it fly? Is it as good( hopefully better) as the Angel. Does it have a removable tail? Does anyone have any info that is not already common knowledge. Like why the hold up in releasing it for example?

Mike

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Mike,
When the Angel was released (August 2007) I ordered one ...... I received it in January 2008. My estimate is that the same will be true for the Wind 110.
Ed

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Update .........
I received an e mail from Luigi Fedon (Fedon Aircraft) that stated a shipment of Wind 110's is in route and scheduled to arrive in 35 days. So, it would seem that US customers could have one in hand by Halloween :). According to Luigi, the US will be the 1st to receive shipment ..... but .... surely the UK won't be far behind ?
Ed

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Hi
I guess we will be looking to the US for the first meaningful info on the plane. Still nothing other than the bare info on Seb's website. Come on Seb lets see some information to wet the appetite, maybe a clip or two or perhaps a PDF of the instruction manual.

Mike

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edited Bob Laine

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If she flies just as nice as the Angel S50 then it will be totally awesome. Someone I know works with Seb and had flown the prototype, he says its amazing. Maybe its time to sell the Angel! :)

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Hi Tianci
Cant you interogate your friend some more and get more details? In my opinion Sebaer produce excellent well sorted out ARTFs. I am just praying that his success to date doesnt go to his head and he forgets the basic principals that has made his company and doesnt just go for the money.

M

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Hi Bob
You order the part on August 28 , I conferm you the order the same day ,
The to day E mail is the second.
As your confermation the parts are in the container coming from the factory.

For the part you conferm that crasch in a landing (E mail # 8709)no a difect stuff
Luigi

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I've had one on order since they first started taking orders and I beleive it
will be worth the wait. If you look on Sebarts web site there is a video of the
Wind 110 and all I can say is Wow !! That is what I call smooth !!

tommy s

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Hi
Interesting video, certainly seems to fly smooth and rock solid. How much of that is the design and how much is the man himself remains to be seen. It seems to have a demountable tail and a servo for each elevator half mounted in the tail. Rudder is driven by a cockpit mounted pull pull servo. I wonder why he only went for the T cannaliser on the 3D version only?

Mike

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Mike ... I don't think I want to interrogate my pal! I can turst his judgment as he assists Seb in testing the planes. From what I have been informed I feel Seb is not the sort of person to let success get to his head. Maybe its because he is Italian I guess. :)

He got nice flying planes ... they cost a bomb here but I immediately took the Angel when it landed. Got no regrets at all. One of the F3A guys in Singapore flew the P09 with the Angel on 5S, on a windy day too! I would love to get a 2x2 from Sebart if there were one to order, doubt I want to go with the Wind 110 ... wish the Wind came first, would have taken it rather than the Angel.

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Hi Tianci
The interogation things was more of a Joke. I actually think Sebs stuff is very reasonable, price wise. I too have the Angel and wished he had gone with the Wind first but I can understand his motives for going with the smaller Angel. He was trying to create a market that really didnt exist at the time, now he has done that it is time for the Wind. I will be getting one as soon as they become available however i intend to run mine on 10 cell not eight as it hedges my bets for my next big electric.
I think Seb will see how well the wind sells before he commits to such a massive project as a full 2 metre job , he also has to consider the limited market. I think that is why he isnt marketing his Miss Wind F3A biplane himself.

Mike

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Hey Mike,

I intend to run mine with a 10 cell set up also. The 6350-16t Dualsky motor (1.40 size)
is actually lighter in weight than the recommended Hacker motor. It remains to be seen
if it will physicaly fit in the cowl.

tommy s

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Hi Tommy
i was planning on sticking with the recommended Hacker motor. It is capable of handling 10s cells. It means a minor weight penalty but i doubt if i will notice it. I will be very interested in your result with the Dualsky motor.

Mike

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I would go with 10S, maybe 4,000 mah to keep the AUW lower. Perhaps I should look into the Wind if it even arrives here! Then I can sell my Angel off. Bigger flies better right?

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edited by bob laine

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Bob I order the part Is a 45 days ship .

This is my service if the factory no delive I am sorry is a new plane and I have the parts only on the second container.


Luigi

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Fedon Aircraft. Hi Luigi. Thank you for the call this evening. Now I understand why it's taken so long for me to get the Cowl. I would like to inform the readers of this thread, that most of the problems I've had with Feddon Aircraft, is due to a lack of understanding. As it were......Luigi is Italian, (with a heavy accent) and I'm a "redneck" Georgia Boy (with a heavy southern accent). I went to Tennessee, in July and picked up my Katana 120. I found out today that Fedon Aircraft, had just received their first 30 planes when I picked mine up. I didn't realize that they did not have parts on hand at the time. as is my habit, when I see an airplane that I like I usually buy it. As some of those like myself will understand, ........we sometimes will have to suffer from some of the flaws that have to be worked out if we are the bata flyers. THAT......more than anything else, is what happened with this airplane. As I said in my other post, "I will recommend this Aircraft to anyone. The quality is outstanding, and the design is well........just look at the designer, enough said about that. After talking with Luigi, I now better understand what's going on, and I also will not hesitate to recommend "Fedon Aircraft", to anyone wishing to purchase some of the best ARF'S, in the hobby. As a matter of fact, I'm going to get one of the Pitt's Biplane's from Fedon, just as soon as they come in. Only this time....... I'll understand if I need a part before they arrive. Thanks, LUIGI Bob Laine

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I ordered my Pitts Python from FEDON AIRCRAFT, today. Can't wait to get it in the air. I already have the yellow & black, "Zero Gravity", 42", and it's a real pleasure to fly. Simply the best biplane in it's class period........... Knowing the quality of the Sebart ARF'S, This "BIPE" will really be a big hit in the US market. Especially in this 120-140 size.

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Hi
Has anyone got a Wind 110 yet and if so what are the initial impressions.
I have looked pretty closely at the PDF of the instructions and the only thing I can see I dont like us holding the removable canopy on with Screws. For something that will be going on and off 3 to 4 times a flying season I think it will be at least a pain and probably break fairly rapidly but hopefully I have a way round that.

I am also hoping to run it on 10 cells by putting an AXi in the nose instead of the recommended Hacker.

Anyone else there got similiar plans?

M

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From what I can tell looking at the assembly instructions the airplane was designed around the Hacker motor
and would require some surgery to the nose to make anything else fit, so I guess I'll be using Hacker.

tommy s

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The Wind 110 arrived today and I can confirm any motor other than the Hacker will require
some major changes to the nose of the airplane so I will be using the recommended Hacker
outrunner. I know everyone likes their airplanes when they are new and sing their praises ,
but I've built and owned some nice airplanes and try not to get too excited with a new one
until I've seen how it flies, but I have to say this one is one of the sweetest ARFs I've ever seen.
The workmanship and covering is flawless. I am really impressed with the covering, it's Oracover
and it's perfect, looks really good. This is one I'm anxious to get in the air. The only thing that
could make it better is if it was a full 2 meters.

tommy s

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The Sebart SharkE is just as well built. I have had mine for 2 weeks and it flies great.

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Hi Tommy
Have you got your Wind 110 in the air yet and if so how does it fly?

Mike

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I haven't started on it yet, Ive been finishing another project. I ordered the
Hacker motor for it so as soon as the motor arrives I'll get going, looks like
an easy assembly.

tommy s

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I have flown my Wind S 110 now for appox 30 flights. Flies perfect. Angel S50 is good but this one is just better.

However I am having problems with the Hacker A50-16L mounted in my Wind S. Two motors has failed already. First one with something that sounded like bearing failure. Was replaced under warranty. Second one failed after 25 fights today. Started with a hard now-and-then knocks. Shortly after in same flight the sound increased and at the same time I lost power completly. Sounded like a magnet came loose. ESC is Jeti Spin 77 Opto.

Anyone else with experience on this motor?

best regards
Kato

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Kato,

Is the brake turned off on the jeti 77? I had the exact same symptoms using this esc with an e-flite power 110. I thought I had the brake disabled but discovered it was still programmed on. Once I disabled it the problems went away. I apologize for asking such a basic question but this sounded very familiar.

Bob

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Kato,

Is the brake turned off on the jeti 77? I had the exact same symptoms using this esc with an e-flite power 110. I thought I had the brake disabled but discovered it was still programmed on. Once I disabled it the problems went away. I apologize for asking such a basic question but this sounded very familiar.

Bob

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Does anybody have Wind with glow power? YS110? Could it be converted to glow, there is not a conversion kit in Sebart's interet site...?


Janne

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I'm sure it could be done without too much effort but the airframe is extremely
light and it may not hold up to the YS shaking and vibration.

tommy s

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After delays from working and the weather I finally did the maiden and two additional
flights on my Wind 110 and it's as good as I hoped. It's probably the easiest airplane to
fly that I've ever owned, very smooth. After three flights I still haven't touched a trim lever,
it flew straight and level right off the building board. The only adjustments I made was to dial
in some more aileron travel and some differential. I am very, very pleased with this airplane.
I plan on flying it in the pattern contest in Crowley LA this weekend so, we'll see.

tommy s

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I put around 30 flights on mine now (in 5 days) and I love it. It flies better than any plane I have flown before, including the 2m pattern ship I used to fly with.</p>

Mine did need some up trim, possibly because I don't fly 'zero gravity'. No aileron differential is needed on mine, it rolls very axial without straying from course. Basically it does everything well.</p>

I'm using the standard setup, so a Hacker A50-16L/MasterBasic Opto 90, with Zippy 8s1p 5000mAh 25C lipo's. Servo setup: 4x Futaba S9650 (aileron/elevator) and Futaba BLS 451 rudder.</p>

The 18x12 APC prop is too big a load. Full throttle it pulls about 80 amps and with an outside temperature of 17 degrees celcius the engine is about 40~45 degrees after flight. Probably that's also the reason the engine of someone else in this thread continues to break down, when flown in higher outside temperatures, the engine will overheat if you fly full throttle too much.</p>

Hacker sais: 70A max for 15 seconds. Besides the load on the engine, one has to really watch ones throttle management with an 18x12, one will easily fly to fast, which is a shame since this plane will allow you to fly it very slow.</p>

Mine tips the scale at 4kg, +/- 10 grams.</p>

If anyone is hesitating to buy this plane, stop hesitating and buy it. It flies as good as it looks.</p>

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What I forgot to mention.. I don't think the specified CG is correct. Sebart specifies 18cm from the leading edge. I tried that but it does make the plane drop it's nose easily. I have it set at around 19cm now, which seems to be exactly right. Also it's easy to build nose-heavy, I have to put my rather heavy lipo (5000mAh) in the most aft position to get the CG right, and I already built in my receiver (Futaba 35Mhz PCM synt) in the backside of the fuselage, as seen on the pictures in the manual.

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HI
Has everyone stuck with the Kit method of holding the canopy/hatch with screws or are people using an alternative method if so what?
It did occur to me that having to unscrew and screw a couple of wood screws four times a season would get real old real fast and wouldn't hold up to constant use.

Mike

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I have and it's not ideal but working fine. Keen in mind that those are not wood screws, but bolts that screw into blind nuts. It'll hold as long as the plane itself.