ziomatrixacs

can and how would you test a gyro because i think my gyro on my hb is broken but when im on the ground and i jerk the heli every thing seems fine

rscamp

Assuming you have a tail rotor with adjustable pitch, rotate the heli by hand about the main rotor shaft and watch the pitch of the tail rotor blades. They should move in a direction that, when rotating in the normal direction, would counteract your input.

Rob

ziomatrixacs

this heli doesnt have that =/ its 2 seperate motor

rscamp

Seems to me it is very similar. You can just confirm that the tail rotor rotation speed is counteracting the heli rotation in the above test.

Rob

ziomatrixacs

ok i just tryed it and my gyro worked fine i just dont get it my hb wont stop spining i tryd fliping my century gyro , tryed playing with the gain i think i might just get a new gyro and motors

rscamp

Here's something else you could (very, very carefully!) try to be certain you at least have the right sense. This is definitely NOT recommended for anything but very small helis!!!

Dismount the gyro from the heli but leave it connected. Ensure you can hold it clear of the blades. Run the heli at low speed. Rotating the gyro one direction should cause the heli to rotate in the opposite. If it goes the wrong way, reverse (or invert) the gyro and try again.

Rob

ziomatrixacs

ok i knda tryed SOMETHING like that i fliped the gyro befor and that made it worst i wonder if i mount t with century going across but ill try what you said i just hop i got enough room...think i should remove the blades cuz i got hit by them and it left a scar last time lol and i wonder if its just cuz im going from a warm inside to a warmer out side maby its just the tempetures though they are almost the same in an out side

ziomatrixacs

o yes im pretty sure i got the gyro on right but to make sure can you tell me what its supposed to do like when i jerk the heli clockwise the blades turn slower and the tail speeds up u

rscamp

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

I recommend you seek out local help.

Rob

ziomatrixacs

yeah im planing on doing that on june 4th cuz there is when my club meets thanks for the help any ways

flyflie

I got the same problem and my Hummingbird is brand new , once the heli is 2 feet off the ground it won't stop spinning..
I give it counter ruder but just slows it down it still keep spinning.
Sooo weird, Im ready to throw out the window and getting a Picolo..

kenru

It sounds like you have it backward. When (standing behind the heli) you move the tail to the right (counter-clockwise) the tail motor should speed up.

flyflie

I did this test you sugested and you are right , when i moved the tail the right the tail rotor speed up...so its not bakwards.. maybe the main motor has too much torque for the tail motor, I replaced the stock motor with a Speed 300.
I think I will put the stock motor back, bye the way with the stock motor it worked fine...

kenru

flyflie,
I am running a 9-tooth pinion on my Speed 300 (6 volt) with a stock tail motor and it works just fine. I used to have it running with the (old style) stock mixer (I'm running seperates now) with no problem. It almost sounds like the new mixers don't have enough mixing of the tail motor...

flyflie

Would you please tell what do I need to run separates? is there any places I can look for a diagram of separates? I think I will go that route myself..

Thank you

kenru

Sure. Heli-Hobby has a great article on it.

Zflyer

Sounds like the guys who got the early ones got a better product kenru, could be some subs being used to meet demand on the mixers a posibility if these guys are having this much trouble then this will make the decission to go seprates or not easy, I'll just order the base kit and do the seprates right from the beginning

ziomatrixacs

flyflie
your lucky you can get it that high off the ground, mine just spins around on the ground and if it does lift off it goes 5 in onto its side if you got the century gyro like me well im thinking of getting a new one cuz this gyro ,i dunno if its cuz i crashed it but i just dont recomend it cuz this o yeah try playing with the gain on the gyro that might help id try going seperates but i dont got the time or the $$ ..crashed too much i think ill keep my servos and sell my hummer and get a small seaplane (no gyro needed!!!!!!!!!!!)

flyflie

Im thinking of doing the same, I think I'll get an electric plane parkflyer instead... I had high expectation of flying the heli in my living room I guess that is just not possible...Im out 500 Plus bucks since I got the complete package and I invested in li-polys and charger and upgraded swash plates and mods and motors.. Grrrrr

flyflie

Would someone tell me if I need a new TX for going separates, I have a Hitec-laser4 , I was reading the article on helihobby.com and he is talking about REVOMIX, as a must have for "separetes"
If my TX is no good which TX would you recommend? I like to be able to use the same receiver I already have "Hitec-feather"
Thank You!

Zflyer

Don't give up on the Heli, You need room for a parkflyer I've got 2 and the problem with wind etc. In fact I just toasted the Motor on my AirBoss this afternoon nosed in from about 30ft. up didn't do much to the plane but the pack went into the motor a speed 300 with the ESC built on the back shorted the ESC and the Pack fried the motor. plane I can fix in 10 minutes burned electrics about $60 dollars worth. I don't belong to a club so I fly at local parks problem this time of year more people plus the better faster the plane the more room needed / as far as the seprates if you use a Heading Hold Gyro it dose the mixing for you so you can use your 4CH Radio you only need Revo for a standard Gyro, dosen't matter what motor used. only thing is cost of HH Gyro the CSM200 is about $90.00 for the lightend version

flyflie

I won't give it up Im just a bit frustrated The cost is not a major problem I have spent way more money in stupid things like the casino LOL...90 bucks for HH gyro is not that bad. Ok so with a HH gyro i can use my 4channel thats good news.. So if I was to get a basic Picolo just the frame and use basically the same motor (speed 300) from my hummingbird and the electronics, all I need to get is 2 ESC and a HH gyro?...I got 2 hitec hs55 micro servos, 4 channel Hitec Feather RX,.... i bought 3 packs of 1200-li-polys...and i have the aluminum collar and metal swashplates mods too....
Should i give it a go>?

Zflyer

Is your HBird toast or do you just want a Picolo, check this post second down , Hoverup has listed his entire set-up on this post
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...88&forumid=185 Check it outt

Zflyer

The only thing I'll add is the only 2 places on the web U.S. that list the CSM 200 lightened HH Gyro happen to be out Helihobby and Dreamhobbies I did a quick search on google and can't seem to find them listed anywhere else

kenru

The reason I went to separates in the first place was because the early mixers were very "glitchy" and tended to cook pretty easily.

Get the HH Gyro and separates. Your Hitec-laser4 will work just fine.