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Old 03-10-2012, 10:28 PM
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Hi,
How is this progressing?
I have recently brought a secondhand RBC TA183 that has not flown in 8 years. So far I have renewed all the electrics and hope to maiden it in the next few weeks.
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Hy Reuben:

Please share your pictures for inspiration to finish this project.

Work, family, and priorities has slow this projecto to much.

Hope to finish this projecto this year.

Sanding and more sanding,

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Old 03-12-2012, 09:22 PM
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Hi Juan,
Here are a couple of photo's, it looks a bit rough but after I have test flown it I will give it a nice coat of paint.
-Reuben

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Rueben:

The plane looks in great shape. If repainting go for bright colors have a het f-18 gray version with orange colors and is hard to see.
(havea build here)

What gear are you putting to the plane.?They recomend 500-700 watts

Can see a extra bay for each wing why?

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Hi Juan,
I found a colour scheme on the internet that I like, it has the upper surfaces painted in light and dark green camo and the underside in light blue.
The extra bays arethere because the previous owner had used servo extension leads and as I replaced all the servos I had to cut a small window in each wing so I could cut the joiners out. I like to solder my leads to extend them rather thanuse plugs.

I am using this motor, I will try it on 3s and then 4s if needed, the fan is a wemotec minifan.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=19109

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That motor looks fine for 4s due to kv.

Not sure how eficient but should work.

Take a look at the products that extreme rc au has in their web site. He offers het motors wich are good in quality and price.
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HI Juan,
I had a hard time picking my motor and I think I will end up using 4s.
I have to hide my credit card everytime I look at extreme rc they have some nice products.
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Ready for final sanding and primer.

Tried using light spakling to fill the weave but did not worked. Ended using Water based PU to fiil the weave and sanding.

Hopefullyafter priming the parts will only need one more sanding.

Replaced the hobby wing 80 amp esc for a jetti heli 70 amp heli esc. This fits well inside the thrust tube.
Let see if can upload some pictures from new gadget ipad.
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Hi Juan,
Are you placing the esc in the thrust tube?  I imagine it will be good for cooling but will it limit the air flow?
On my plans it says to put it above the thrust tube in the rear of the fuse.
I'm still waiting on my motor shaft to be machined but as soon as I have it back I will be ready to maiden mine.
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Trying to upload pictures from ipad lets see if possible




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At least there is a link to the pictures.

Not an expert in edf but think this is the best method to keep cool the esc, not sure if you will be able due that you will use a outrunner and probably have less space. Have a similar setup in het f-18 with no problelms.
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Hi Juan,
Your esc will like the increased airflow, I also toyed with the idea of mounting my esc below the thrust tube with the heatsink clear of the fuse but I would need to increase the length of the esc to battery leads.
I have now decided to maiden mine on 4s as this will decrease the amp draw and lower the heat.
I have spent the last couple of days painting an ME109 and now I can't wait to paint the Ta183 :-)
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Today the wings got glued to the fuselage







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Hi Juan,
That looks really good!
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:06 PM
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Hi Juan

Your Huck is looking good it looks just about ready to paint did you choose you scheme yet? At the moment I don't have Ta-183 to fly just been working to much but that should change soon. I also purchased a second 90mm Ta-183 has is almost flight ready. It flew back on the mid 2004-2008 and had a nicad setup in it. I need to change the ESC and update the transmitter to 2.4gig.
Here's a couple of pic's Keep up the great work hope you maiden the Huck soon.

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Hy Doug:

So you have two steveNeils Hucks includins his personal one,you were on quest on finding this kits and did it.

With today high count edf blades you can have a really nice sounding huck with out breaking the bank. Take a look at chang sum 90mm 12blades edf or the jetfan 90 mm edf.

I still use 72 mghz and have a few 2.4ghz rx don´t see a real reason for replacing all my fm rx to 2.4 rx. Did aquire a hitec Aurora that allows me to use both.

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Please iform your maiden.


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Getting back into the build.

Since modified the wing to point downwards, there was a huge gap between the fuselage and wings. This were filled with balsa the major parts, epp foam in the big holes, and filling the minor holes with light spackling putty. Sanded all to be uniform, and did a fairing with epoxy and microballons.




Also soldered wire extensions to the aileron servos.



Getting very close to aplying primer.

Still not sure with painting job will do. Like the alfa huck paint job, bot know that need a very high visibility paint job since this planes become small fast.



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Hi Juan

I got lucky finding Steve's original Huck but it did put a dent in my wallet! Your build is coming along nicely here is a couple of bright paint schemes I like also I saw a picture of a Ta-183 all in orange just like a Me-163 comet. Here are some others..

http://www.aeroaces.com/ta183.htm
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Have been working in small doses each night of this week getting finsh:

Aileron hinging, instruction call for tape hinging but don't like how it looks on a model. Opted for CA hinge.



Did the servo and linkage installation for ailerons and elevator. Runed into some minor problems in the elevator servo am linkage instalation.The servo was to high in the base having interference with the edf unit. Had to dremel of the plywood base and glue a new one at the botom. Since the elevator wire is to thin to my criteria, but necesary since a thicker wire won't be able to turn inside the tight curves in the tail tube, there is some flexing to take care to avoid flutter. Put a guide suport for the tubes pushrods were it flexed near the servo, and will gluen some suports tomthe exits tubes in the tail.




Think the real cure is to install the tubing in the tail with bigger radius curves and use a thicker wire when buildiing the tail.


The aileron servos and linkages were the usual.


Think will go with a green camuflage with yellow nose, and some yellow leadin edge to help in landings. Will modify this scheme.











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Nice thing about choosing a scheme for the Ta-183 you can come up with any combo you want sense the jet never made it passed the development stage. looking good Juan!
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Did all the wiring of the plane, still some triming of wires to do.

Installed all the gear,edf unit, and battery for some test, and foolling around.

With a fresh charge 3s 3600 got:
55 amps
520 watts

The plane as is right now wheight 3 pounds so will have aprox 150 watts per pound which seems ok.

Will get a 2.4 otima light rx if you notice the big antena on the back on video.



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http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/...a/794eb00e.mp4

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Hi Juan,
I have good news and bad news regarding my TA183....
I was experimenting with my bungy launcher and after a sucessfull test glide I decided to give full power on launch and see how mine behaved in the air as it was well balanced.
On full power (3s) I did not have enough power to climb and basicly tried for a controlled landing but due to the distance I caught a wing tip and cartwheeled.... which removed the righthand wing and elevator and tail
Mine would be repairable but on closer inspection I can see it has had previous repairs and now there is more filler than wood....
I do not feel confident that I can make repairs that will be strong enough so for now I will repair her but only for a static model.
When I purchased mine I did receive a second set of plastic's and the plans so I may scratch build another one over our upcoming winter
On my plans the cog had been rewritten at 45-47mm? I balanced mine there and it was well behaved, just very underpowered on 3s.
I have repaired and repainted it and it now hangs from the shop roof of my local hobby store.

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Hi Juan

Great videos! Funny I get the same response from my family when I run one of my edf planes. The Ta-183 looks great but I just noticed you haven't install the wing fences. You are going to install them right? The Ta-183 needs them for stable flight.
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