Electric Training If you are new to electric learn more about them here or ask questions.
View Poll Results: A poll
micro whizz
2.78%
great planes flat-outs
11.11%
piper cub
30.56%
hobbico's superstar
11.11%
great planes super sportster
2.78%
brushless converted tower hobbies Kaos
0
0%
multiplex magister trainer EP
11.11%
Other (please mention in a reply post)
30.56%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Reply

Old 06-01-2005, 01:44 AM
  #1  
ho0joker
Member
Thread Starter
 
ho0joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kuwait, KUWAIT
Posts: 38
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

which of the following is the best...? be objetcive, provide pros and cons for your choice... judgement criteria should include take-off and landing (groud take off that is), aerobatics, ease of flight and overall quality...
ho0joker is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2005, 02:56 PM
  #2  
lozza
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: East DoncasterVictoria, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 94
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

I am a fan of the Wing Dragon from Art-tech. Reasons are:
1. There is almost no building, it can be assembled out of the box in 20 minutes, and everything including the radio is in the box
2. It is a pusher, so vital parts especially the propeller are protected in a crash
3. It has a huge wing which gives it excellent slow flying characteristics, vital while you are learning. It is very docile and forgiving, and floats in to a very slow easy landing.
4. It is so easy to fly it is possible (although not necessarily desirable, don't want to buy an argument on this one!) for a complete beginner to learn to fly it without any assistance
5.It uses conventional components so you can use your own radio if you wish, and swap out any of the ESC, servos, motor for upgraded components, or even use the Wing Dragon components in other planes
6. It takes off very well from the ground, provided you have a reasonably smooth piece of ground. I find cricket pitches are perfect. Directional control with the rudder on the ground is good.
7. It is easy to trim even for beginners, with proper screw on clevises on the push rods and good access to servos etc.
8. It is very robust and will survive very hard crashes, and repairs are simple.
9. It is 3 channel and can do limited aerobatics including inside and outside loops and inverted flight. There is a great upgrade path to the 4 channel Wing Dragon Sportster, called Beginair in the US. In fact, these planes are so similar that it is a good option to buy a Sportster with a Wing Dragon wing and fly it as a 3 channel plane until you are confident enough to fit the (red)Sportster wing and go 4 channel. A Sportster flown with the Wing Dragon yellow wing has almost the same characteristics as the standard Wing Dragon.
10. The four channel version retains many of the easy fly features but has a lot more aerobatic capability including reasonable rolls.
11. It is large enough to be seen at a good distance.
12. It is very tolerant to changes in CG position, so you can hang cameras on it, try different batteries, motors etc without having to be too concerned about the effect on CG, within reason of course.
13. Spare parts are readily available.
CONS
1. Some people have found that the supplied components are not as good quality as "name" brands, especially the ESC. This seems to be the luck of the draw. I haven't had trouble with them.
2. Early Wing Dragons were on 27 MHz only, not liked by clubs here in Australia. Now you can have it on other more acceptable frequencies. Of course, you can always use your own gear anyway.
3. The wing halves fit together with a wooden spar on one half that pushes into a slot in the other half. This is a good idea, but if you have a hard crash you will probably break it and have to epoxy the two halves together permanently.
4. As with all pushers, the prop has a tendency to chew up the wing in a crash. Always throttle off if you see it coming, even if you do this at the last instant you can save your wing.
5. The rubber band retainers for the wing are not as well positioned as on some others, e.g. Firebird/Aerobird. Too close to the wing itself.
6. Unlike some others, e.g. the Firebird Commander, the box it comes in is not easily modified to be suitable for transporting it to and from the field.
lozza is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2005, 04:00 PM
  #3  
norvelnut
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: clarksville, TN
Posts: 53
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Sig Kadet EP42 with an upgraded motor like the Mega 400 brushless!
norvelnut is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2005, 02:32 AM
  #4  
gabimaor
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: petach tikva, ISRAEL
Posts: 26
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

lozza,i agree with u.
1 thing though,the begin air is faster then the original WD,
i has a bigger motor.i think ur advice is good,buy the begin air
and fly it first with the ED main wing without aileron.
gabimaor is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2005, 02:42 AM
  #5  
lozza
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: East DoncasterVictoria, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 94
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

The first Wing Dragons came with a 400 motor, but now both WDs and Sportsters are being shipped with the same 480. The Wing Dragon comes with a 7 cell battery and the Sportster with an 8 cell, which makes it a lot zippier, but if you put the Wing Dragon wing on the Sportster and throttle it back it will fly more or less exactly like the WD.
lozza is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2005, 11:29 PM
  #6  
zachj1212
Senior Member
 
zachj1212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga, CA
Posts: 181
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

e starter
zachj1212 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2005, 07:22 PM
  #7  
GWR
Senior Member
My Feedback: (31)
 
GWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 797
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

GP 1/3 scale GeeBee converted to electric[sm=drowning.gif]
GWR is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2006, 09:22 PM
  #8  
SUPERGONZO
Member
 
SUPERGONZO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oceanside, NY
Posts: 35
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Aerobird Challenger
SUPERGONZO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2006, 06:43 AM
  #9  
jjflash
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 32
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Begin-Air
jjflash is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2006, 09:47 AM
  #10  
perttime
Senior Member
 
perttime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tampere, FINLAND
Posts: 1,630
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Er, is there a definition for "beginner - intermediate" ?

My first (beginner?) plane is GWS E-Starter.
My second (intermediate?) is GWS Formosa

After that, I am not sure if I will do a bigger plane or a faster one, or just something different.

edit: just noticed that this thread is a bit old.
perttime is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2006, 07:26 PM
  #11  
slostick
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: , IL
Posts: 77
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

slow stick. it is slow for the beginner and easy to fly. it can be upgraded easy with ailerons, more powerful motor like a cheap outrunner, and dihedral removed if a more aerobatic plane desired. it is real inexpensive and the mods can be done as cheap as desired. i fly mine in 15 mph winds and fly 1000 ft away and 1500 ft altitude in thermals with the motor not running while in the thermal. it can be flown in 1/2 a football field.
slostick is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2006, 11:10 PM
  #12  
Bevo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Midvale, UT
Posts: 426
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: best beginner to intermdt. electric plane??

Either the E-flite Ultimate FX or the E-flite Ultra Stick.


Bevo
Bevo is offline  
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service