This is the G5 Glow Gas Plug
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This is the G5 Glow Gas Plug
Anybody try this new glow plug from OS? The plug is made for gas so no gas to glow mixed fuel. It uses A standard glow plug battery jus wondering if anybody has looed at this
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For use with O.S. GG series gasoline powered engines that use a
glow plug instead of a spark plug for ignition
Specifically designed for a gasoline/oil mixture
Uses standard glow igniter. The plug will be out in late December I believe it can be used with 30-50 to 1 mix Tower hobbies is showing the engine and the parts list under OS gas engines
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For use with O.S. GG series gasoline powered engines that use a
glow plug instead of a spark plug for ignition
Specifically designed for a gasoline/oil mixture
Uses standard glow igniter. The plug will be out in late December I believe it can be used with 30-50 to 1 mix Tower hobbies is showing the engine and the parts list under OS gas engines
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Gentleman I have good news for all IT WORKS. I used A Ryobi 31cc engine that I had set up with electronic ignition and tried to start it like normal choke on throttle opened up till it started choke opened throttle opened 1/4 flipped A couple of times and it ran backwards choked it to stop the engine had to do this a few till it ran right it had old fuel in the tank but it ran good no misses from idle to wide open 1800rpm to 7500rpmit would probably start better with fresh gas Michael
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Interesting. Keep at it!
The Gas/Glow engine conversions we were using also would start backwards sometimes. The cure, if you did not want to use an electric starter, was to use a really good follow through flipping technique when starting them. If you kind of slapped at the prop during starting, they would quite often start in reverse. You could also try the bump backwards against compression method used by many when starting large glow engines.
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The Gas/Glow engine conversions we were using also would start backwards sometimes. The cure, if you did not want to use an electric starter, was to use a really good follow through flipping technique when starting them. If you kind of slapped at the prop during starting, they would quite often start in reverse. You could also try the bump backwards against compression method used by many when starting large glow engines.
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I always did the "back bounce'' start. Get the engine in that kick back mode...pull the prop backwards & wen you feel a sudden pressure build up...just let it go and the engine will reverse direction and run the right direction. Very simple once mastered. Use a leather glow when learning. Capt,n
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Where can one get hold of the G5? Search the net to no avail. Australian RCM News has a review of the engine and comments/tests of the gas glow plug.
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For us here in the USA, Tower Hobbies and some other online stores that sell OS products have them. Those larger local hobby shops tend to have some too. I did notice that for a while Tower Hobbies would run out of stock from time to time though. So the online stores might be out of stock intermittently too.
If a engine uses the Turbo plug like they use with RC cars a lot, then you can get the OS P3 turbo plug and it works with gasoline too. The NV Engines GX-40 gasoline engine uses the OS P3 Turbo plug. That plug works really well with the special OS P3 plug on gasoline too.
If a engine uses the Turbo plug like they use with RC cars a lot, then you can get the OS P3 turbo plug and it works with gasoline too. The NV Engines GX-40 gasoline engine uses the OS P3 Turbo plug. That plug works really well with the special OS P3 plug on gasoline too.
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I had taken this picture a while back. it shows the OS F and OS G5 plugs adjacent to each other. Also the Fox Miracle plug and the OS P3 Turbo plug too.
You will note that the OS G5 plug is a little bit more long in length than the OS F plug. It isn't much, but it could be a problem in rare cases with some engines.
The OS G5 and OS P3 Turbo plugs both are ultra-hot heat range glow plugs that work well with gasoline instead of methanol.
You will note that the OS G5 plug is a little bit more long in length than the OS F plug. It isn't much, but it could be a problem in rare cases with some engines.
The OS G5 and OS P3 Turbo plugs both are ultra-hot heat range glow plugs that work well with gasoline instead of methanol.
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Would be interesting to know what OS uses for filaments in the G5, whether it is platinum like in ordinary glow plugs, or something even more exotic. Or maybe a lot less exotic, as platinum ain't that cheap!
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But in thinking about it more, the P3 glow plug is a ultra hot heat range plug used with RC car engines, namely the RC trucks for obstacle courses. Thus it works with methanol. But the heat range must be letting it keep enough heat stored to ignite the gasoline vapors in the combustion chamber in combination with the engine's heat.
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So with a new engine, you can sort of expect that first plug and first engine run to trash the plug. It can be quite frustrating to not have a spare then. Probably something about "Murphy's Law" in there someplace.
Spark plugs eventually go bad, from nothing else than carbon build up over time. With some of my other engines, I was really surprised in that the spark plug and engine still ran OK even though the spark plug was all coated and gunked up with carbon deposits.
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I even run new engines on ignition for 3-4 tanks before replacing the EI with a G5 plug. The G5 works great, I tested it on a good number of engines already.
Anything under 20cc should be seriously considered for a "GGT" conversion, I just picked up a couple of second hand ST G3250's and fitted one with a Walbro carb, the ST G90 and G2300 I converted a while back did well when tested with the G5, I expect this one to do well too but now I have a good few EI's I removed from the smaller gassers that can power the larger glow conversions.
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Probably asked already, maybe even by me (CRS). Will the G5 plug work with four strokes? Thanks.
Sincerely, Richard
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Sincerely, Richard
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YS F 120;
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ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyZziSaF-g
Now then a another fellow stated this "For a while I ran a Saito FG-20 with a G5 glow plug since replacement ignitions are expensive. It was more finickey than usual so I eventually converted to an Rcexl ignition. As it turns out, the engine was still finickey because of the weak and unregulated pump, so perhaps the glow plug was not to blame..."
Anyway it looks like it would work with a four stroke engine OK too.
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I think that it works. But maybe with not all gas four stroke engines though. Hard to say for sure.
ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyZziSaF-g
Now then a another fellow stated this "For a while I ran a Saito FG-20 with a G5 glow plug since replacement ignitions are expensive. It was more finickey than usual so I eventually converted to an Rcexl ignition. As it turns out, the engine was still finickey because of the weak and unregulated pump, so perhaps the glow plug was not to blame..."
Anyway it looks like it would work with a four stroke engine OK too.
ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyZziSaF-g
Now then a another fellow stated this "For a while I ran a Saito FG-20 with a G5 glow plug since replacement ignitions are expensive. It was more finickey than usual so I eventually converted to an Rcexl ignition. As it turns out, the engine was still finickey because of the weak and unregulated pump, so perhaps the glow plug was not to blame..."
Anyway it looks like it would work with a four stroke engine OK too.
Thanks for the link, here's another one: ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBUfVt9MBI
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Yes, I think that we can say that the four stroke engines will with with the OS G5 gas glow plug too. So it does look quite promising. Especially with small displacement engines burning gasoline. I think that the big advantage will be with airplanes and engines too small for a regular spark ignition system.
Another plus would be eliminating a source of radio interference by not having a electronic ignition system in a model RC aircraft too.
Another plus would be eliminating a source of radio interference by not having a electronic ignition system in a model RC aircraft too.
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Yes, I think that we can say that the four stroke engines will with with the OS G5 gas glow plug too. So it does look quite promising. Especially with small displacement engines burning gasoline. I think that the big advantage will be with airplanes and engines too small for a regular spark ignition system.
Another plus would be eliminating a source of radio interference by not having a electronic ignition system in a model RC aircraft too.
Another plus would be eliminating a source of radio interference by not having a electronic ignition system in a model RC aircraft too.
Sincerely, Richard
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Club Saito #635; Saito 56, 100, 120abc, 130T, 180
YS F 120;