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Old 09-11-2004, 03:08 AM
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Great video Greg!!!

Yeah, i got my honeybee flying good. When i replaced the tail motor, the gyro/mixer stopped being goofy. I can fly it outside sooo good now, and indoors is a blast. Im working on side-in hover now.

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Old 09-11-2004, 07:52 PM
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So far I've only flied no more than 10 charges (original 600mAh NiMh battery) on this heli and my first ever experience in a heli (except for some 4 hours or so flying the simulator). I'm now able to [link=http://www3.telus.net/terence_chu/coolstuff/indoor_flight.wmv]hover the thing indoor over the footprint of my bed[/link]. The video was shot when the tail motor was just about to go south. I had my hands full keeping the tail from wagging by the intermittent tail motor. I think running these little motors originally designed for 3-4 cells onto a heli running 7+ cells is looking for problems. This was already my second tail motor, in less than 10 charges. I'm looking to convert to direct drive tail motor. Anybody knows if they're any more durable? If I run 6-cell Li-Po battery, will the lower voltage make the tail motor more durable?
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Old 09-12-2004, 05:13 AM
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6 cell li-po? lol, no. that would be like... 20 volts. all your stuff would fry. tail motors will always fry. the only way i've heard of tail motors lasting longer is if you use a seperate tail motor ESC that fluctuates the power. or using dual tail motors, but ive heard people had a problem with that weighing down the tail alot.
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Old 09-12-2004, 06:59 PM
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Sorry, I meant 2-cell lipo battery. For some reason, I always thought that a 3.6V li-po actually runs 3 1.2V cells inside.

camra88, could you explain why a separate tail motor ESC is better than the combined mixer/gyro board? What do you mean by "fluctate the power". I'm quite interested in tail DD conversion. Thx.
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Well i'm no expert, but i will tell you what i know. The stock mixer board's tail ESC sends out a steady voltage to the tail motor. This is hard on the motors brushes. If you use a seperate tail motor ESC that fluctuates the power, it will send power to the tail motor by on/off intervals really fast. I guess this is easier on the brushes.
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Old 09-13-2004, 09:09 AM
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Hello people, i own a honey bee too. But i was wondering how do you guys place the antenna? Do you all leave it as it comes (on the skids) Or round it to the tail boom?

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Old 09-14-2004, 02:32 AM
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I left my antenne how it was (wrapped around the skids). I've heard that you do not want to wrap the antenna about the tail boom, because the carbon-fiber causes interference when the antenna is wrapped around it.
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Old 09-14-2004, 04:26 AM
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Thanks, i've wrap it around the skids just to play safe.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:36 PM
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Can anyone tell me what wrong with my Honey Bee? When I pluged the battery into the speed controller and let the machine sit for a few seconds until the controller LED illuminate to green, the LED won't change to green and just blink few time and stay in red. []
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make sure your tx is on, and that the throttle is at 0, with the trim all the way down (make sure you know what channel/stick is the throttle).
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:29 AM
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Hi Guys,

I just bought a honey-bee and hovered for a couple of accu-packs but it seems not very stable.
When I opened the box one paddle was fixed under an angle and the other one was straight.
I adjusted the paddles so they have a slight angle.
Do you know how the paddles should be fixed? At what angle?
More setup tips are welcome!

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The paddles should be parallel to the plastic rectangular frame the flybar mounts onto. Initially I used to tune-in some angles to track the blades on my honey bee. However, I later found out that it seemed much better to hair-dry and bend the main blades to do the job.

On another note, I got the EDP 50XC DD tail and 1750mah 2-cell Li-Po last week. Man! What a difference! The lighter battery means less lift required which means less vibration and more stable and therefore less power required for the tail motor. With the 3X capacity, lighter weight and more efficient DD tail, I could hover for half an hour no problem (vs 6-8min on the factory NiMh). The lower voltage (7.4 vs 8.4) is not a problem on power output although the lower head speed required to haul the small weight can be deceiving. I can probably lift the heli faster at full throttle w/ the Li-Po than the NiMh.

The EDP 50XC is excellent. Lots of power even w/ the lower voltage Li-Po. In fact, when I first didn't seat in the blade fully for testing, the thrust was so great that the blade shot out of the shaft and cut my lips. Heat is not an issue w/ my home-made heatsink and blow-thru' setup. However, I've probably put too much heat when desolder/solder the wire on setup 'cuz last nite I found out the 50XC was losing power. I thought that was it for the little motor after only about 5 Li-Po charges. I dismantled the motor and found out 1 of the brushes was dislocated together w/ the external connector as 1-piece. It's all good after the fix. In the meantime, I noticed that the 50XC actually runs brushes as opposed to cheap copper contacts on the factory motor. Now I have no doubt that the 50XC will last much longer than the factory junk.

The only thing I don't like the DD tail setup is that the smaller blade means high revs and high-pitch buzz (just like the name says -- honey bee). I bought the 3030 blade at the same time and found out the 3030 runs a higher pitch than the included 3020 blade. Even with a smaller surface area, 3030 provides more thrust at lower speed. However, at this point I don't know how much extra load is asserted on the factory ESC so I just use the 3020 blade for the while. Besides, even the 3020 blade is running probably less than half power since I get more right rudder power from the 50XC than left rudder power from the main rotor torque. I'll just live with the high-pitch buzz for now.

With the Li-Po and DD tail, I tried to set a record and hovered 15-min STRAIGHT before I needed to take a break physically. That just used up about half that battery charge and the 50XC was even cooler than the main motor. I am impressed! I highly recommend the DD tail and Li-Po for these little electric heli's.
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Old 09-29-2004, 03:22 PM
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Carbon brushes of the 50XC motor:


Cheap copper contacts of the factory tail motor:
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racemiata, i've recentyl changed my honey bee's tail motor to the DD type. Even with full left trim the heli will still yaw right. Do you encounter this problem?
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Old 09-30-2004, 12:24 PM
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I finally have 4 flybars, a video camera, and a day off tomorrow!

It's time for my first solo with the Honey Bee heli. I did get some practice indoors with the "Aero-Hawk" courtesy of the Hobby Lobby gang at the Stranded NEAT Fair gathering. I managed to break the CF Tail Drive Axle Shaft after some successful hovering so i'm not a pure rookie anymore.

I expect the video will still be plenty of fun!
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I don't have this problem. Have you tried turning down the proportional trim (and/or gyro gain) on the receiver? Make sure to set the Tx/Rx trims with flight battery unplugged. I have had wierd things happened to me when I set trims with flight battery plugged in.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:25 AM
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Ok, thanks. Most of the time i set the trim when the heli is on the ground. i'll try reducing the gyro. But is it the to left or right?
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ORIGINAL: dragoonel

Ok, thanks. Most of the time i set the trim when the heli is on the ground. i'll try reducing the gyro. But is it the to left or right?
On mine, the left one is the gyro gain, the right one is the mixer.
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Old 10-01-2004, 10:01 PM
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haha, ok. I forgot to metion that i changed the e-sky 4 in 1 box. The 4 in 1 box has been giving me problems, i'm not sure if its the e-sky brand or the parts inside. The problem was, on two occasions, the main rotor will just spin by it self, or worse, it just stops spinning. My heli dropped from 20 meters high when the main rotor stopped spinning. Therefore i changed the parts to descret parts. like the futaba r114f, feda model mixer & speed controller and the NT 300 gyro.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:52 PM
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Here is more video of my Honey Bee heli. Rudy Meyer from Canada was getting some hover practice outdoors when I was flying planes.

[link=http://www.gregcovey.com/RCU2/HoneyBee2.wmv]HoneyBee Video2[/link] (7meg)
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Old 10-07-2004, 01:23 PM
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Here is a funny video from Neat Fair '04 while it was raining. Billy Hell from Hobby Lobby with some Fly RC guys.

[link=http://www.skykingvideo.com/media/hotel%20room%20vid%20for%20neat%20page.WMV]Honey Bee in Hotel Room[/link]

Compliments of [link=http://www.skykingvideo.com]Tyler Renkert[/link].
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John:
that RC is not so good, it is cheaper, not stable.

at least you need to get zhenhua RC.

search ebay keyword: Lithium BATTERY RC esky helicopter

you may find some deal
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Old 10-12-2004, 05:44 PM
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i got my esky 3D 6 channel heli. today

works perfectly
i got it from

http://xmseller.com/html/esky6channel.html

price is cheap than ebay
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http://xmseller.com/html/esky6channel.html

try this new 3D newest esky, it is cheapest i saw
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What exactly do the "Trainer" and "3D" switches do?
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