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LAMA V3/V4 THREAD! CALLING ALL OWNERS!

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Old 10-14-2007, 12:16 AM
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Try this link http://www.eskylamav3.info/Esky_lama...al_upgrade.htm
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:46 AM
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Just a partial review of some of the upgrades on my V4.

I Modified the V4 frame to take the Xtreme tail and skids from a CX2, relocated antenna to be on a tube, outside on the skids. I added an aluminum swashplate, shaft, head and grips. Then came a pair of Xtreme 180 motors w/silver brushes, and a quick paint job to match the aluminium parts. According to the tracking number Xtreme blades and a shortened flybar should arrive in the next couple of days along with Nav Lights.

Weight if the bird changed from an advertised 230g stock to a pudgy 255g, weighing with the stock flybar and blades. Still using the stock blades and flybar I spun her up. With the new motors she seemed quieter and was real stable flying around the living room.

I took her outside in the driveway and it performed well in a mild breeze. Control was smooth and predictable. The breeze (sorry I don't know how strong, but it could be felt) didn't seem to bother it. It flew nice and smooth as I went from the driveway around the trees into my front yard.

Unfortunately, being dark outside, it was hard to see flying by the porch light and what light from the street lamps that filtered through the trees.

About 3 minutes into the flight, a big ol' chokecherry tree in the middle of my yard, fell in love with the Lama. It jumped out of nowhere and gave the little V4 a hug. As luck would have it, the heli stayed in the tree and didn't fall to the ground, so the only damage was to the blades. Not having any spares, this ended the flight.

To make it short, I'm pleased with the performance. If you haven't already I suggest getting the Xtreme 180 motors. They have great power, not to mention the changable brushes. The Xtreme upgrade did appear to make a difference in the performance department not to mention the looks. The Xtreme kit for the CX2 was about 95% a bolt on, requireing only a little adjusting in the skid area (CX2 is a little wider).

I'm sure there are things I could remove, like the wing on top of the boom along with the support struts. That would save me a few grams but with my style of flying that wouldn't make much of a difference.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:44 PM
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very cool mate, good on ya.

What did the motors cost you? - was there a "really" noticible change?
IE did it increase speed etc etc how did you "quantify" the change.


i'm jealous.. especially since my bird is out of action until I can be bothered tearing it apart again...
(or have money to throw into trying to buy new bits)

I have extreme blades and shaft extension.. but i can still get the blades to touch when performing banked turns.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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ITS HARD.. TOOK ME 3 HOURS.. (BUT IT WAS MY FIRST TIME)

remove blades and heads,
remove body shell,
remove skids & battery holder,
take off drive pinion by removing the collar(underneath)

then (i think theres abearing that comes out the bottom too)


from memory all you do is.. pull the shaft out.. it feels really tight but I tapped it out from the bottom using a "light" hammer/chisel type arrangement
then PULL.. the factory shaft has a ridge of glue holding it to the bearing of the pinion that drives the lower blades.

just pull.. thats all i did. you will notice the new shaft extension has no ridges on it, so you just slide it back down from the top.. put the pinions and collar back on.. then put it all together again..

(think about your own methods first.. ask the RC shop guy too)


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Old 10-17-2007, 12:10 AM
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I got the motors from eBay for $32.99 including shipping, the silver brushed came from another source for about $7 and Shipping. I was flying my bird on stock motors a few hours before why I was letting the paint dry on my Xtreme boom and skids. So the Comparison is basically a flight by flight comparison.

The difference in the sound was noticeable right off the bat, with the Xtreme motors. The power was definately noticeable I figure I added more weight with the upgrades but the heli didn't seen to care. it was still responsive and pretty quick.

I just looked, he has a few more at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-Flite-Blade-CX...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:47 PM
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Thanks a lot a batman for the link it really helped!
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Try this link http://www.eskylamav3.info/Esky_lama...al_upgrade.htm
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:01 PM
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Hi I just got a new motor for my lama v4 because my old one was damaged. I put in the motor, charged the battery then got ready to fly. Then i turned on my transmitter and moved my throttle postion stick to the lowest position and my trim and my servo for throttle was on normal setting. Finally I put in the battery, the second the battery was connected my rear motor began to function at full throttle and only my rear motor. Then I checked my throttle which was on the lowest position and tried again still the same problem. I have no idea what to do can anyone help me please.

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Old 11-17-2007, 10:35 AM
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Hello all,
wouldnt it be easier to post all questions and answers regarding our llama v4/v3 here in one thread?I see v4/v3 threads and questions all over the place just thought it would be easier to look in one spot.Anyways my upgrades for the v/4 are
cnc swash,
lower cnc head,
extreme inner shaft and bearing holder,
extreme motors,
extreme blades,
dynam vortech flybar(its shorter than stock and weights are adjustable),
replaced servo horn with full length one of course i had to purchase the entire servo package but if comes with 3 horns
i also purchased the unbreakable skids which i think are to soft imo.
and a TENERGY 1250mah lipo for juice
.this little bird is a blast to fly,i havent tested it outside yet with the upgrades,in stock form outside in a slight breeze i wouldnt be able to get it back to me,hopefully the shorter flybar and extra throw from the servo horn helps this problem.
hope to post pics soon
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Old 11-17-2007, 12:48 PM
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Show some picture of your heli, and where did you get the shorter fly bar from???
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:23 PM
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This is where i got the flybar from [link]http://www.slickzero.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=VTX-002&Category_Code=VTXParts[/link] i use it with the extreme extended inner shaft.i will post pix tomorrow our annual clam bake is today. slickzero also has other upgrades as well for the llama.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:18 AM
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wouldnt it be easier to post all questions and answers regarding our llama v4/v3 here in one thread?I see v4/v3 threads and questions all over the place just thought it would be easier to look in one spot.
it'd make sense... admin.... ?

Anyway, i've gone the normal route, after flying mine for about 3 weeks now ( i think!) just took delivery of my xtreme plastic frame parts, and ordered the CNC parts yesterday.
Even with the stock frame , the new Xtreme blades give better lift, and a more stable flying experience - even during low level GE tests.

I'd strongly recommend the shaft extension - it'll save on blade slapping.
Then it'll be new motors.
and a custom canopy ( I don't like the xtreme one...)
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:00 PM
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Hi! Xtreme makes an inner shaft(5mm longer than stock) that minor the bladestrikes..
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:09 AM
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Hello all,
wouldnt it be easier to post all questions and answers regarding our llama v4/v3 here in one thread?I see v4/v3 threads and questions all over the place just thought it would be easier to look in one spot.Anyways my upgrades for the v/4 are
cnc swash,
lower cnc head,
extreme inner shaft and bearing holder,
extreme motors,
extreme blades,
dynam vortech flybar(its shorter than stock and weights are adjustable),
replaced servo horn with full length one of course i had to purchase the entire servo package but if comes with 3 horns
i also purchased the unbreakable skids which i think are to soft imo.
and a TENERGY 1250mah lipo for juice
.this little bird is a blast to fly,i havent tested it outside yet with the upgrades,in stock form outside in a slight breeze i wouldnt be able to get it back to me,hopefully the shorter flybar and extra throw from the servo horn helps this problem.
hope to post pics soon
sorry its been awhile been busy with baby on the way,here are some pix [img]
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:27 PM
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hi... new here... currently a owner of an esky lama v3... i chose the v3 over the v4 cause i think the v3 looks better... plus they're basically the same heli with diff canopy... and i like the extreme production upgrade, it looks better than both but only fits on the lama v3...
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hello to all you v3,v4 lovers.if it helps i got my extreme upgrades from miracle mart.they have all upgrade parts,ther shipping is excelent and fast for a company located in hong kong.i have use the several times and i'm completly satisfy with they service.
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hello to all you v3,v4 lovers.if it helps i got my extreme upgrades from miracle mart.they have all upgrade parts,ther shipping is excelent and fast for a company located in hong kong.i have use the several times and i'm completly satisfy with they service.
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Finally after troubleshooting everything i could imagine for my radio glitching ,weeks of not flying my v4 [&o] it ends up being the crystal or crystals went bad or it may even be interference on that channel who knows,all i do know is that i swapped out crystals and it works perfectly
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I hope this isn't off topic for this thread, since I don't have a Lama V3 or V4. I have an E-sky Lama2 (exactly like v3 but different color), which I've had for about 3yrs now

In that time, it has been used and abused. I've replaced nearly everything on it at least once.

The following parts are the originals:

1. 4in1 unit
2. Main frame
3. Canopy
4. Entire lower rotor head (except for blade grips)
5. swash plate
6. Flybar (The current flybar I am using is the one that came on the heli, but I modified it by shortening it quite a bit. I did this long before you could go out and buy a shorter flybar )



I currently have the following upgrades on it:

1. Xtreme blades - One of the best upgrades ever!!!
2. Xtreme 180BB motors - One of the best upgrades ever!!!
3. Xtreme longer inner shaft (modified to give more travel range on flybar)
4. Xtreme flexible tail - It's OK, but not too crazy about the quality of it. Better than stock for sure...


This was my first and is still one of my favorite RC helis. It still flies great after all this time...


Here are some pics. I use my Futaba 9chp TX to fly the Lama, but I still have the stock TX, which works OK. I just use the 9chp for everything as it is more user friendly than the stock TX.




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im glad i have the v4 in my hanger,its nice to be able to relax and fly it in the house on bad days outside or when your other models are grounded,ive also used it to practice orientation with rather than a sim, takes a beating,cheap parts easy to put back together and extreme blades are almost indestructible,ive had only one serious crash and only suffered some damage on the front canopy
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