One flick starts, is this a myth?
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RE: One flick starts, is this a myth?
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The electric ones?
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RE: One flick starts, is this a myth?
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The fuel ones. I've had one-pull starts out of my 18 CV-RX and one-flip starts out of my 46AX. The key is to not abuse them, keep them tuned a bit on the rich side, and keep your glow ignitor good and charged.
The fuel ones. I've had one-pull starts out of my 18 CV-RX and one-flip starts out of my 46AX. The key is to not abuse them, keep them tuned a bit on the rich side, and keep your glow ignitor good and charged.
Except that this is a DIESEL forum......or hadn't you noticed..........?
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Except that this is a DIESEL forum......or hadn't you noticed..........?
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The fuel ones. I've had one-pull starts out of my 18 CV-RX and one-flip starts out of my 46AX. The key is to not abuse them, keep them tuned a bit on the rich side, and keep your glow ignitor good and charged.
The fuel ones. I've had one-pull starts out of my 18 CV-RX and one-flip starts out of my 46AX. The key is to not abuse them, keep them tuned a bit on the rich side, and keep your glow ignitor good and charged.
Except that this is a DIESEL forum......or hadn't you noticed..........?
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1: The guy that guy was replying to mentioned OS, and he was talking about OS. OS hasn't made a diesel engine in 40 or 50 years.
2: I clicked on this thread on the homepage, so no, i didn't notice it was in here.
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RE: One flick starts, is this a myth?
My frog 100 used to start first flick if I had to compression set right, now not so much because I run it far less frequently and things get knocked about.
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Video evidence of the 'one-flick start'. Fiery starts his ancient 'Miss America' at 2.25 mins.
It all depends on the set-up and a good P/L fit is a must.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6iITW6hzdY
It all depends on the set-up and a good P/L fit is a must.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6iITW6hzdY
Last edited by fiery; 09-29-2015 at 07:09 PM.
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I had two new diesels start on the first flip. I took them out of the box, mounted on test stand, blew air through the fuel line to "Set" the needle, adjusted the compression for the right "Feel" and then squirted a prime in the exhaust and pulled the prop through a couple of times to get fuel in the line.
One flip and each one started.
A Kingcat .09 diesel and a Supertigre G33 1.5cc diesel.
Back in the mid-fifties I had a McCoy .09 diesel that gave me so many one-flip starts I couldn't count them.
One flip and each one started.
A Kingcat .09 diesel and a Supertigre G33 1.5cc diesel.
Back in the mid-fifties I had a McCoy .09 diesel that gave me so many one-flip starts I couldn't count them.
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With no intent to offend, may I offer this thought?
The answer to part of it was posted here in March 2013, regarding FAI Team Racing usage...
Time lost to a multi-flip restart in a race heat can be the difference between a win and a lower finish... Prep for a serious team develops a refueling 'system' that applies the precise necessary prime squirt against the closed piston to assure an immediate restart.
Takes practice and development, but in this absolutely necessary circumstance, pays very well.
For most of us, who do not have fractions of second as a criterion, a one flip start may be desirable, but is not crucially important. It is better to learn how to restart without flooding the engine or inducing some other problem. Consistent, one or few, flip starts are just as impressive to onlookers....
(My opinion...)
The answer to part of it was posted here in March 2013, regarding FAI Team Racing usage...
Time lost to a multi-flip restart in a race heat can be the difference between a win and a lower finish... Prep for a serious team develops a refueling 'system' that applies the precise necessary prime squirt against the closed piston to assure an immediate restart.
Takes practice and development, but in this absolutely necessary circumstance, pays very well.
For most of us, who do not have fractions of second as a criterion, a one flip start may be desirable, but is not crucially important. It is better to learn how to restart without flooding the engine or inducing some other problem. Consistent, one or few, flip starts are just as impressive to onlookers....
(My opinion...)
#35
OK, now I'm confused. The title of the thread says " One flick starts, is this a myth?"
I took this to mean a first start and not a re-start. My reply was for a cold engine that was not warmed up.
Sorry if I got it wrong.
I took this to mean a first start and not a re-start. My reply was for a cold engine that was not warmed up.
Sorry if I got it wrong.