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merugo 06-30-2007 03:58 AM

DIESEL FUELS, OILS, COMBUSTIBLES AND ADDITIVES
 
Friends,
After ten formulas and more than one thousand hits, TESTED DIESEL FUELS has been slightly reformatted, resumed and reported in this new thread DIESEL FUELS, OILS, COMBUSTIBLES AND ADDITIVES. The previous thread can be discontinued since you can find here its main results.

Some interesting diesel fuels proposed and discussed in various EVERYTHING DIESEL threads have been reported.
Some very original mixes are really tempting, so additional experiences and comments are needed.
Extensive experimental and field testing of oils gives space to improvenments and opinion sharing.
Additives are a broad range of products, of very different avaliability depending on type and country.
Ether or no ether opened the way to testing of low or no ether mixes...................

Everyone can report the formula he uses and its results. Keeping your report updated is welcomed since it enriches and actualizes the thread.
Non authors can add their experiences and/or comments to any reported formula by reediting and adding their views.
Characteristics/avaliability of fuel components can also be reported.
DIESELS WILL LIVE UNTIL THEY WILL BE FUELED!


Here I propose a simpler form for fuel report. Oils, combustibles and additives have a free form.
As a suggestion to fuel authors, please refer to your fuel No and/or name when quoting it in other threads, this will help newcomers.
Ugo

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PURPOSE:
SHARE FORMULAS, EXPERIENCES AND SUGGESTIONS.
RULES:
EVERYONE CAN ADD HIS EXPERIENCE AND/OR BRIEF COMMENT FOR HIS/OTHER'S FORMULA by filling the blank form or reediting an existing one.
USE:
COPY; EDIT AND PUBLISH. YOU CAN ADD YOURS , DO NOT DELETE OTHER’S CONTRIBUTIONS
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DIESEL FUEL No: ............................ NAME: .......... .......,..........ORIGINAL DATE: ........


ORIGINAL REPORTER: ...................LAST EDITOR:..................LAST EDIT:................


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-.........%.......
2)-.........%......
3)-.........%.....
4)-.........%.....


The way the mix it was obtained: .....


1)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR: .... .. RUN TIME: .......STARTING: ............ USER:......
Comments:

2)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
Comments:..

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merugo 06-30-2007 04:00 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: ...01....................... NAME: . Baker Black Brew.,..........ORIGINAL DATE: 10/01/2007...


ORIGINAL REPORTER: .. chevy43......LAST EDITOR:..merugo.....LAST EDIT:..6/29/2007........

FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-64.....%.Pump diesel..........................................
2)-16.....% diesel used crank case oil (Chevron Dello 400).
3)-6.......%castor................................... ........
4)-6....%.ether...................................... ....
5)-6....%kerosene
6)-2.......%.Amsoil cetane booster....



The way the mix it was obtained: by adding 1/5 of Davis plane mix, assumed for simplicity 1/3 ker 1/3 cast 1/3 eth


1)ENGINE:.OS40LA..CARBURETOR: ..RC. RUN TIME: .7gallSTARTING: .hand.w chocking. USER:.chevvy43.....
Comments:

2)ENGINE:..0.061 PAW......CARBURETOR:..RUN TIME: ..STARTING:... USER:.chevy43
Comments:..difficult starting

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PLS NOTE: I WILL FOLLOW inserting the other mixes reported in the original thread. There are 8 different fuels, so if someone wants to add a new one, its number will be 9.
merugo

merugo 06-30-2007 04:17 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: ..02............ NAME: ......JP8......,..........ORIGINAL DATE: ... 1/11/2007.....


ORIGINAL REPORTER: .. ama1836.......LAST EDITOR:...merugo........LAST EDIT:.29/6/2007......


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-......98...%....JP8...
2)-.......2..%......AMSOIL SABER



The way the mix it was obtained: .....straight mixing


1)ENGINE:.... OS.91FS..CARBURETOR: ... OS.52OS. .. RUN TIME: .100hrs..STARTING: .gasoline mix USER:.. ama1836....
Comments:
The engine modification we made was to replace the carb and inlet on the OS.91FS with a set from an OS.52OS. All that is required is to enlarge the mounting bolt holes, I do not remember the # drill I used, just large enough to allow the stock bolts to be used. Do yourself a favor and use the gasket here. We also removed the head shim and lapped the head to the cylinder. I use toothpaste.
For starting we used an inline tank with 50:1 regular gas and Amsoil Saber. This allowed the combustion area to become warm enough to sustain ignition.
Wee also have a C&H Ignition installed and used either a NGK or a Rimfire spark plug. I found no differance in performance or lonjevity between the plugs.
Once fully warmed up there was no noticable smoke coming from the exhaust at any throttle position. I have in fact held a white piece of cloth directly behind the muffler, but not touching and only had a lite brown/ tan bit of residue after 15-20 seconds.
Transition is responsive once the needles have been dialed in.
After long periods, 15+ minutes, of 2-3,000 opperation there is some coughing untill the engine reaches full rpm. While observing this transition in the dark I noticed red sparks fly out the exhaust. We determined the plug was fowling with carbon as well as arround the exhaust valve.
I am still working on developing a spark ignited diesel. By using a spark ignition there is a slight weight penalty and a power drain. I feel as these are easly offset by the ease of use and the engine will last much longer without raising the compression beyond the design limits of the engine.

2)ENGINE:..SAITO....CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
Comments:..

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Other:..I f you have any questions or coments you can contact me directly @ ama1836@aol.com


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gkamysz 06-30-2007 06:35 AM

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This thread exists here:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5241193/tm.htm

merugo 06-30-2007 08:45 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: ...03................ NAME: ... SLOPER's 10% Ether Mix..ORIGINAL DATE: . 01/04/07..


ORIGINAL REPORTER: . SLOPE- SOARER...LAST EDITOR:.merugo.......LAST EDIT:.6/29/2007.....


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-....51..%...kerosene...
2)-.....16..%... semi synthetic engine oil for diesel car use....
3)-...12.5..%.... modified olive oil.
4)-.....10...%.....ether
5)......2.5.%... 2-ethylexhyl nitrate


The way the mix it was obtained: ...to a 1/3 litre of commercial model diesel fuel with 30% ether content and 24% castor oil content they were added :
25mls ignition improver
125mls synthetic engine oil
160mls of the modified olive oil
357mls of kerosene (paraffin)..


1)ENGINE:..PAW 2.49..CARBURETOR: .RC/fixed .. RUN TIME: .......STARTING: electricUSER:.slope-soarer
Comments: used in 5-25°C range. worked well. 20' running times. throttle very good

2)ENGINE:..1.49.......CARBURETOR:.RC/fixed...RUN TIME: .......STARTINGelectricUSER:.slope-soarer
Comments:.. used in 5-25°C range. worked well. The mix was tested in engines with fixed venturi as well as engines with RC carbs. Idle was very slow and steady. Throttle response was very good. After 4 minutes at a low idle the engines with RC carbs would repond smoothly to quick throttle opening without any "hiccups" The oil content is high but the mix works very well, perhaps due to the high oil content compression seal is improved ?
A PAW 1.49 with fixed venturi ran for some 23 minutes on a 2 ounce tank of this mix, the engine was set up for maximum revs and was attached to a 100 inch wingspan glider.

The mix has been extensively tested and my PAW diesels show no signs of distress or high temperatures when using it.
Other mixes using increased amounts of the synthetic engine oil without any modified olive oil, and also increased amounts of modified olive oil without any synthetic oil were tried. These mixes ran O.K but were not quite as good as when both olive oil and synthetic oil were incorporated in the mix. No doubt the ether and oil content of the 10% ether mix could be reduced, but as it stands this mix runs extremely well and has the benefit of being a lot cheaper than a normal high ether content fuel.

My engines start easily and quickly with just a "choke" prime and a spin of the starter motor. Compression is about half a turn LESS than when using mormal model diesel engine fuels

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merugo 06-30-2007 08:54 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: .......04............. NAME: ...Jaguar repro mix,..........ORIGINAL DATE: .. 01/21/2007......


ORIGINAL REPORTER: j.hiner@comcast.net...LAST EDITOR:.merugo...LAST EDIT:.6/29/2007.......


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-.......49..%...kerosene.
2)-.......33%...ether...
3)-......16.%..... Klotz KL200 100%sint oil.
4)-........2.%.....Ignition improver


The way the mix it was obtained: ....straight mixing.


1)ENGINE:..Jaguar repro...CARBURETOR: .... .. RUN TIME: ..STARTING: . USER: j.hiner@comcast.net
Comments: 5.3 K with .12.5/6 prop 6.5 min with 14cc
author does NOT suggest to use in ORIGINAL old engines, ONLY in robust repros.

2)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
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merugo 07-01-2007 08:08 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: ........05.............. NAME: .... Normand mix....ORIGINAL DATE: ... 1/25/07.....

ORIGINAL REPORTER: JMP_blackfoot...........LAST EDITOR:...merugo......LAST EDIT:.6/30/2007......


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-......40%kerosene.......
2)-.......30%ether......
3)-.......28%castor oi.....
4)-.........2%ICI AVOCET ignition improver....


The way the mix it was obtained: ....straight mixing.


1)ENGINE: WEBRA WINNER 2.5cc CARBURETOR: .... .. RUN TIME: ..STARTING: ..
USER: JMP_blackfoot
Comments: starts and works well at low temperatures (0°C).

2)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
Comments:..

Reader's comments
Nickname : ..merugo......Comments:.. Avocet is a mix of nitric esters apparently formulated for alchool diesel fuels, to be used with them from 5 % up to 8%

Other:..


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merugo 07-04-2007 10:01 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: .....06..................... NAME: ...Greg’s no ether......ORIGINAL DATE: 2/10/07


ORIGINAL REPORTER: . gkamysz........LAST EDITOR:..merugo.......LAST EDIT:.7/3/07...


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-....78.....%......kerosene.
2)-....28....%...... castor oil
3)-......2..%..... octyl nitrate

The way the mix it was obtained: .....straight mixing

1)ENGINE:. FS 48 converted....CARBURETOR: .... .. RUN TIME: .......STARTING: .electric... USER:...... gkamysz
Comments: Fuel consumption 355ml/h @ 10800rpm

2)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
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merugo 07-04-2007 10:09 AM

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OCTYL NITRATE cetane enhacer, such as AMSOIL may be difficult to find in europe, at least in pure form. Most brands sell it extremely diluted with kerosene, so its real price skyrockets. Here an useful way to have it by post in pure form and neat price.
Go to http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/products.html and you will find this

-Veggi-Boost combustion enhancer is available in 500ml cans for people to create their own specialty fuel. It is essential to anybody using vegetable oil as a diesel fuel and will improve performance and help protect both the engine and the environment. Veggi-boost is a cetane improver and is added at about 0.1 % volume. Just a tiny amount has a large effect. It contains nearly 100% 2-ethyl hexyl nitrate which aids detonation inside the engine combustion chamber, enabling vegetable oil to be used more readily in a diesel engine. Also great if you're thinning veg oil down with petrol - it will restore the cetane value of the blend-

CHEVRON says.
Cetane Number Improvers (Diesel Ignition Improvers) Cetane number improvers can reduce combustion noise and smoke. The magnitude of the benefit varies among engine designs and operating modes, ranging from no effect to readily perceptible improvement
2-Ethylhexyl nitrate (EHN) is the most widely used cetane number improver. It is sometimes also called octyl nitrate. EHN is thermally unstable and decomposes rapidly at the high temperatures in the combustion chamber. The products of decomposition help initiate fuel combustion and, thus, shorten the ignition delay period from that of the fuel without the additive.
The increase in cetane number from a given concentration of EHN varies from one fuel to another. It is greater for a fuel whose natural cetane number is already relatively high. The incremental increase gets smaller as more EHN is added, so there is little benefit to exceeding a certain concentration. EHN typically is used in the concentration range of 0.05% mass to 0.4% mass and may yield a 3 to 8 cetane number benefit

merugo 07-04-2007 10:24 AM

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DIESEL FUEL No: ...........07............ NAME: ..Air fresh mix...ORIGINAL DATE: 04/29/07.


ORIGINAL REPORTER: ..merugo.....LAST EDITOR:..merugo....LAST EDIT:.7/3/2007......


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-......40...%......kerosene.
2)-.......25..%......castor
3)-........17.5.%....turpentine (vegetal, NO mineral substitute)
4)-....... 17.5 %....ether


The way the mix it was obtained: .....straight mixing


1)ENGINE:.mars 2.5...CARBURETOR: ..fix .. RUN TIME: ..3h...STARTING: ..flip. USER:merugo.
Comments: It is based on a fifty years old italian mix. Strong mix without ignition improver. Interesting as showing the possibility of using terpenes in a mix.Nice pine scent...but if you like citrus scent substitute turpentine with lemonene technical grade ( paint solvent)

2)ENGINE:.............CARBURETOR:.........RUN TIME: .......STARTING:.......... USER:.......
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merugo 07-04-2007 12:44 PM

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ORIGINAL REPORTER: ..Lou Crane......LAST EDITOR:..merugo......LAST EDIT:3/07/07...


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-.....41....%......kerosene.
2)-.....33...%......ether
3)-.....22...%.....castor
4)-.......2..%..... synthetic oil
5) 1.. %.. amyl nitrite ignition improver


The way the mix it was obtained: .....straight mixing by volume

1)ENGINE:.Various, mostly PAW...CARBURETOR: .fixed.. RUN TIME: ..Various....STARTING: ..as few as 2 flips, hot............. USER:Lou Crane.......
Comments:...This is close to factory recommended mix for well-broken-in PAW 1BB or 2BB engines. With 25% total oil, it works well in well-broken-in plain bearing PAW engines.

Good starting, easy setting, dependable fuels mixed from John Deere starting ether, campstove kero, SIG AA Castor and AN from Clutton (in USA). John Deere starting ether claims to be 80% high quality technical ether (diethyl?), and blends volume-adjusted for that % do well, dependably.

Additional user observations:
Nickname :Lou .Crane.... Observation: The high vapor pressure of the ether fraction complicates use with uniflow type tank venting in CL flying -characterized by long (up to 7+ minutes) running full-bore at optimum setting - most recent experience indicates non-uniflow tank venting works better. Diesels have ample fuel draw to live with the changes of dynamic fuel head in CL flight if tank width is kept reasonable.



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merugo 07-04-2007 12:46 PM

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ADDENDUM
PREVIOUS LOU CRANE's mix is No8

Motorboy 07-04-2007 01:02 PM

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Quote:

ORIGINAL: merugo

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3)-........17.5.%....turpentine (vegetal, NO mineral substitute)
...

The turpentine are not good for enviroment and health hazardous, Turpentine is an organic solvent, and thus poses many of the same hazards as do other such substances. Its vapor can burn the skin and eyes, damage the lungs and respiratory system, as well as the central nervous system when inhaled, and cause renal failure when ingested, among other things.
See this link http://www.inchem.org/documents/icsc/icsc/eics1063.htm [:'(]

DannyM2Z 07-04-2007 10:18 PM

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G'day all.

One useful additive that I have not seen mentioned here is Lubrizol.

I was given a small quantity by some C/L team race mates with the instructions
to use about 0.2% to minimise carbon build up in model engines.

The stuff is like thick black treacle and difficult to measure in small amounts but I
found that mixing a larger amount with 10 times it's volume of kerosine gave me a
mixture that can be added to fuel with a syringe (at 2%) now.

http://www.lubrizol.com/products/die...es/default.asp

One other useful chemical that the blokes gave me is DII, (Diesel Ignition Improver)
similar to amyl nitrate but only use 1.5% max I was told, so using 1% only works fine
in my collection of diesels.

(I only see these blokes a few times a year as they are in Melbourne and I am 300Km
away in the bush - so rare ingredients have to be used in a miserly fashion)

Cu Later * Danny M *

merugo 07-05-2007 07:24 AM

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Jens,
if you search for some cocktail here, you are wrong and pose your life to severe risk, better to avoid tasting combustibles, but if you like such a dangerous habit pls follow the rules al http://www.nafaa.org/nafaa_safety.html.
As for the risk for inhalig mixes, every volatile component may be dangerous if inhaled in Sao Paulo boy doses.
If you like my free lessons for you,( but don't be accustomed to, patience has its own limits) take this additional one. THE MOST DANGEROUS COMPONENT of model engines mixes is METHANOL, whose ACGIH safe level is under 262 mg/m*3 long term, short term 328mg/m*3.....but you don't use glows hehe!. Right ya, but your beloved ether does not perform much more safely, sice its two limits are respectively 308 and 616 mg/m*3, they may seem higher, but ether is at last ten times more volatile than methanol, so draw your conclusions.
Ah, forgot, poor terpenes..... turpentine, that you happily breath in pine woods, and lemonene that parfumes you hands when pressing your lemonade, have identical safe levels of 556 mg/m*3 and 1112 mg/m*3, and that are really difficult to reach since they are hundred times less volatile than ether!
Ugo

Motorboy 07-05-2007 11:41 AM

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Quote:
The link do not works.. The NAFAA are talked about fire safety
The rule of safety can be difference from country to country in fire safety and the NAFAA are not applied to other countries, USA only.

Why mixing fire safety with health defence against chemical stuff when you are talking about fire safety when i am talking about enviroment and health defence against turpentine????



merugo 07-09-2007 02:38 PM

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-----------DOES TURPENTINE (vegetal) IN DIESEL No2 IMPROVE COMBUSTION?---------

From Petroleum Science and Technology - 2005 :

"Environmentally friendly, biobased fuel additives become more important when environmental concerns all around the world are considered. In this study, sulfate turpentine is investigated as a candidate diesel fuel additive. Engine performance tests were conducted on a 53 kW, 4000 rpm Peugeot XD 3P 157 type diesel engine for 3:97 turpentine and No:2 diesel fuel blend and similar results to No:2 diesel fuel were obtained. Significant reduction in exhaust emissions were observed as a result of using turpentine and No:2 diesel fuel blend"

Interesting the positive effect of only 3% of turpentine on combustion of diesel fuel.

NOTE "sulphate" turpentine is the basically the common vegetal turpentine used by centuries from painters.
DO NOT CONFOUND WITH TURPENTINE "SUBSTITUTES"!

gkamysz 07-09-2007 05:20 PM

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But are results similar in model diesels?

merugo 07-09-2007 11:38 PM

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Greg,
once try
Ugo

Motorboy 07-10-2007 08:50 AM

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Quote:

ORIGINAL: merugo

-----------DOES TURPENTINE (vegetal) IN DIESEL No2 IMPROVE COMBUSTION?---------

From Petroleum Science and Technology - 2005 :

"Environmentally friendly, biobased fuel additives become more important when environmental concerns all around the world are considered. In this study, sulfate turpentine is investigated as a candidate diesel fuel additive. Engine performance tests were conducted on a 53 kW, 4000 rpm Peugeot XD 3P 157 type diesel engine for 3:97 turpentine and No:2 diesel fuel blend and similar results to No:2 diesel fuel were obtained. Significant reduction in exhaust emissions were observed as a result of using turpentine and No:2 diesel fuel blend"

Interesting the positive effect of only 3% of turpentine on combustion of diesel fuel.

NOTE "sulphate" turpentine is the basically the common vegetal turpentine used by centuries from painters.
DO NOT CONFOUND WITH TURPENTINE "SUBSTITUTES"!
Ugo, this is your assertion and there are not facts..

How i knew.. read here your text Peugeot XD 3P 157 type diesel engine, XD 3P 157 do not exist since i am Peugeot car mechanic.

Quote:

Significant reduction in exhaust emissions were observed as a result of using turpentine and No:2 diesel fuel blend
There are your assertion again, see under these Peugeot cars with HDI engine, there are the small tank be side of the fuel tank. This tank are there additiv fluid to add the fluid in autodiesel while the tank are tanked. It is to improve combustion to prevent problem with particle filtre inside the exhaust installation. The additiv fluid can not be bought by car owner for "Do-it-self" use and will be added by car mechanics in Peugeot work shop and update the additiv program in the car for each 80 000 km service.


Quote:

once try
Why can you not try self who you are afraid to damage your own model diesel engines with unknown fuelblend instead we spend time to test fuels and worn out our own model engines and add the tested fuel here for you????

Better to fly out with the traditional fuel we know are reliable since it is summer now.

gkamysz 07-10-2007 12:43 PM

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Here we are assuming model diesel (HCCI) combustion is comparable to diesel injection. Ugo, surely you don't think that the additives will have similar results. If so, I'd like to see your baseline emissions test results for a model diesel. Out of curiosity, what sort of emissions do you get from a model diesel?

Motorboy 07-10-2007 12:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: gkamysz
Out of curiosity, what sort of emissions do you get from a model diesel?
Sure Ugo do not have 4 gas emission measure equipment to measure pollution in model engine..[sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif]

pe reivers 07-10-2007 04:15 PM

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Off topic?
DIESEL FUEL No: ....~~ standard....... NAME: .......... .......,..........ORIGINAL DATE: ........


ORIGINAL REPORTER: .Pe Reivers..LAST EDITOR:..................LAST EDIT:................


FORMULA (in order of decreasing percentage of volume ):
1)-..40..%...ether....
2)-..40...%..Kero....
3)-...20...%..Castor...
4)-....2...%...Truck diesel fuel cetane improver..


The way the mix it was obtained: ..hand mix, ether-to castor, add kero, stir, add cetane booster, stir, store in aluminium flask


1)ENGINE:...MVVS .15 ABC glow conversion...CARBURETOR: .RC.. RUN TIME: .15 minutes .STARTING: ..hand... USER:.me.....
Comments:
four drops prime, engine starts third flip, sometimes tends to bite back, runs with a deep throated bark. Conversion is meant for high rpm operation, where cast iron pistons will be too heavy to balance well.

merugo 07-10-2007 04:40 PM

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Motorboy,
you have lost your daily occasion to be respectfully silent.
Next time, before making any observation, read what you intent to comment. This will save wasted forum space, not to mention my and readers' time.
It is clear that my quote was simply directly copied from Petroleum Science and Technology , 2005, as yourself say, so if you want to make comments refer directly to:
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Petroleum Science and Technology
ISSN: 1532-2459 (electronic) 1091-6466 (paper)
Subjects: Chemical Engineering; Energy & Fuels; Gas Industries; Petroleum & Oil Industries;
Publisher: Taylor & Francis
Petroleum Science and Technology is a peer-reviewed, international, interdisciplinary journal of science and technology. It serves as a forum for the science and technology of petroleum by offering articles that relate to the scientific and processing aspects of petroleum.

The journal covers the character, properties, science, and processing aspectsof heavy oil, tar sand bitumen, and residua. Articles also address the environmental aspects of petroleum recovery, refining, and use.

Petroleum Science and Technology also publishes selected proceedings from a conference or a collection of papers dealing with a single relevant topic.

The journal is of particular interest to the analytical chemist, petroleum chemist, and the chemical and process engineer.

Publication office: Taylor & Francis, Inc., 325 Chestnut Street, Suite 800, Philadelphia, PA 19106
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I think they will appreciate your professional contribution and correct the mistakes you found in the paper.

BTW, dear Pinocchio Peugeot Mechanic, if you want to buy one of your well known Peugeots, pls refer to
http://www.krausmotor.de/Peugeot4.htm, they will arrange to fill your boring ignorance finding for you a
Peugeot/Citroën L4 OHV 2498 D J9 2.5 D with engineXD3P (157) for as low as 6.968,87 .
Maybe they will allow you to make a short test run with a bit of turpentine added, and may give also some discount being your colleagues.
Ugo

merugo 07-10-2007 04:49 PM

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Greg,
it seems that your have forgotten octyl nitrate..and similar stuff!
Ugo


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