Extreme Speed Prop Planes Discuss the need for speed with fast prop planes (Screamin Demon, Diamond Dust, Shrikes or any REAL sound breakin'''' plane)

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Old 12-02-2003, 01:25 PM
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I just had my 1st flight and plan has been clock at level flighton #17 at 205 MPH and 215PMH in a dive.

I also has 1st flight on #18 and clocked 168 MPH level and 187MPH in a dive with a certified radar gun .

Mark

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if the wonder reach 100 MPH in dive it's already a miracle, man look at that wing profile and try to be serious
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:29 PM
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A stock wonder untouched with an OS25 will do 100-120 mph easily.

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Old 12-02-2003, 01:34 PM
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You need to read my article and understand that the wing thickness is not stock. It is about 1/2" thinner before coming to wrong conclusions.
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:35 PM
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Default RE: Few Sig wonder ??

should better check your radar and switch from KmH to MPH

Now if your wonder do 200 MPH, go imediatly race bagostix and his bagowhiplash in the bagowip forum


now if you change everithing, including the wing profile, it's not a wonder anymore. Just buy some wood, you don't need the wonder kit !!!!
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:36 PM
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Come out to Whittier and Narrows and watch for yourself.
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:43 PM
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go above in the thread and have a look to my whiplash extreme picture (discontinued ultra light version of the curent whip)
it's powered by a jett 50 BSE with a 9/8 prop turning 20k +
that's a real 200MPH airplane. I have serious doubt about his ability to reach that speed, so please be serious
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:46 PM
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It is a Super Wonder. Kit not needed, wood is. wonder size and shape are the same just stream lined a little.

Yes the radar gun was on MPH.

It is faster than my friends Q40, we raced each other on Sundayand the wonder beet him and he was pissed.
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:49 PM
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ok, go and claim your speed here

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_12...tm.htm#1321483


just for the fun of it
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:06 PM
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Sorry Bud,

I also have a whiplash with a modified Jett 50 from jett with a ducted Fan piston and sleeve and retimed to do 24k on the ground with a 9X6 and racing Q40 muffler and my wonder was faster. I had my friend fly my Whiplash and I flew the wonder and passed him up everytime.

Sorry, I have nothing to prove. See you on Sunday at Whittier and Narrows to prove my point, what's yours?
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:14 PM
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Sorry, I have nothing to prove. See you on Sunday at Whittier and Narrows to prove my point, what's yours?
come to my place, we have all the facilities for accurate speed mesurement here
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:08 PM
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i have one with just stock with a 15la on it. i was wondering if mini servos would be alright for the ailerons and elevator? I cut the whole about 1/3 from the back and its to shallow for a futaba s3004 servo. if minis are ok, which one should i get?
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:23 PM
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on my stock .15 I have excelent results with HS81. One of them is more than 400 flights with the same .15la and hs81, didn't change any servo gear.
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:25 PM
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I already have the roo, need all the rest, LOL
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=10798

turbine for 850.00
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:32 PM
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tanks a lot crazyforflight, but since wonders fly 200+ I don't need turbine anymore......
just joking

thanks a lot for the link I will consider it, seems attractive price, but are those turbines reliables enough for a first turbine beginer?

I suggest we continue in PM it's a wonder dedicated thread after all
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:33 PM
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I am an expert on Wonder's.
I have built now about 18 of them.

If you are planning to modify as I alway do with a 25 to 36 engine, the following is necessary for lasting results.~~~~Hope this helps, pictures will follow.
Mark
GEE what happened to the first 16 Wonders????
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:38 PM
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ok on the turbine info

but maybe rifleman3754 will have an idea on how to mount a P-70 Jetcat on my next wonder, since he is a selfproclaimed expert
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:38 PM
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GEE what happened to the first 16 Wonders????
since they fly 200 I guess that march has 16 new artificial sattelites
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:17 PM
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strap the P70 to your ass and duct tape yourself to the Wonder. You should hit 300MPH
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Old 12-02-2003, 06:21 PM
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ok we should continue in PM don't want moderators to close this thread this could be domageable to our friends building wonders
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Seriously gentlemen:

For you none believers, A wonder is a fast flying kit plan.

Look at the spec's of Q500, boxy fuselage, exposed engine and airfoil is 1 3/8" thick.

Fuselage has to remain square. 2 in square at firewall to 3.5" square at the wing mount.
wing is 10" X50" constant cord and weighs 3.5 to 3.75 pounds.
fuselage is over 2 feet long with a large v-tail

Quickee's use a Q500 Jett or Nelson at 2.5 HP. and flies at 206 MPH maximun speed recorded.

Wonder stock wing thickness is the same, fuselage smaller and less wing area.

Use a thinner airfoil, keep the weight about 2.5lbs with a 2.2 HP .21 Rossi with tuned muffler at 24k RPM and speed speaks for itself.
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As I previously mentioned if you modify absolutly everithing it's not a wonder anymore. you change the wing, you change the fuse, you change the tail, so where is the wonder?

I have no doubt about your skills to build an airplane flying 200+, but you shouldn't call it a wonder.

the main attractive part of the wonder is the fact in my opinion that altough it can be fly at a relatively hig speed and give some adrenalyn shot for extreme speed beginers, It has also extremely good slow speed performances for aproach and landing. When you know your wonder you land it at your knees.

I don't think it's the case of the airframe you describe in your earlier posts
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just what prop do you use on the rossi 21?
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:23 PM
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for late evening Wonder fun as the sun sets on the flying field build a Wonder with a .15 3 HS-81 a 270 Mah battery and feather Rx build it light! fly it on the deck at a high ilde. Low and slow give the "park flyers" a show 20 minutes on just a few oz.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:52 PM
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I have to side with SALMONBUG on this one, if the rifleman could get a "real Wonder" to break 150 I would be impressed. A Whiplash that has damn near no airfoil shape to it and 1/20th the frontal area of a wonder, might do 200 with that engine combo. Anyway there is a lot more to an airfoils suitability for speed than its thickness, the whole airfoil shape..laminar flow the whole bit. IMHO Why not ask Bruce Tharpe his opinion........
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:01 PM
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One more thing Rifledude...who certifies your RADAR Gun??? What brand is it ?
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