Extreme Speed Prop Planes Discuss the need for speed with fast prop planes (Screamin Demon, Diamond Dust, Shrikes or any REAL sound breakin'''' plane)

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Old 05-20-2002, 11:30 AM
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Here is the Whiplash at a glance

http://www.geocities.com/roger_forgues/Whiplash.html
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Lets see, the Whiplash at $150, and the Diamond Dust at $70. They both will go 200 MPH with a very good engine. I know the one I will buy.
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The difference in price is that the Whiplash is an all composite ARF with everything included, As they say, you have to pay some to build for you.
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Default not totally apples to apples

Whiplash airframe 26.88oz +paint?

Dust airframe with covering 12.77oz

I'm know they both fly great but they
do fly different.
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Default Re: not totally apples to apples

Originally posted by miderror
Whiplash airframe 26.88oz +paint?

Dust airframe with covering 12.77oz

I'm know they both fly great but they
do fly different.
How different? Please explain because I'm really trying to work out cost vs building vs flying characteristics to try and decide between these two. Everyone give your thoughts. Thanks.
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The difference is going to be in the flight envelop more than
anything else. The flight envelop and lanch are going to be better
with the Dust because of its lighter wing load. It will elevator
better for the same reason. Its reparablility is better as well.

I'm thinking the Whiplash is going to be good for high speed
out of the dives since there is more mass and it should be very
clean since its molded. That's how its been with all the other comp/fiberglass deltas we've flown in the past.

If you want something to just go fast and can paint but don't
want to build go with the Whiplash.

If you want fast and slow and can hack 8hr of building
and want to self launch,90deg turns, etc go for the Dust.

Either way Deltas are a ball to play with.
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Too late, called the Whiplash guys, left message got a call back from Rick in less than an hour. He had the answers for all my questions. Placed order, down side, 4 week wait. Will let you know If I'm still excited after I look in the box.
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Come down guys, you will have your Wiplash soon, this people are in full production and will start to ship out soon as possible, is not easy, there customer service is great! and quality control too, I got mine today! WoW!! it's what I can say, beautiful and clean airframe, not to much to do to it, I think that it can be put together in less then two hrs. That airframe look like it's going to be a blast! in the air, I will let you guys know.....
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Jay I'm glad you finally received yours. At least I know that they are shipping some out. I realize it is tough to keep up with high demand. How was the finish on your whiplash Jay? Did you receive any instructions. I spoke with someone a few days ago that received one without instructions or even a mention of the CG.

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Be patient guys, I understand your apprehention for waiting, but you won't regret it. Nobody expected the Whiplash to take off in sales the way it did, and ACM won't cut corners just to get them out sooner, you'll be getting a very good product to be proud of. Its worth the wait.
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Originally posted by mlevings
Jay I'm glad you finally received yours. At least I know that they are shipping some out. I am just getting frustrated with the lies about the ship date. I realize it is tough to keep up with high demand, but if you are confident enough to tell when an item is to be received, you should at least inform them if it is infact not going to happen. How was the finish on your whiplash Jay? Did you receive any instructions. I spoke with someone a few days ago that received one without instructions or even a mention of the CG.

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Mark, I understand your frustration, but is like aerografixs said, is worth the wait, my is complete with accessories and instruction manual, very easy to follow instructions, I will post some pictures of mine in a couple of minutes, so you can see how good it looks!..
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Well since we're sitting around like a bunch of expectant fathers waiting for our little bundles of joy to arrive, what's everyones plans for finishing and personalizing your Whiplash? Paint (if so, what kind)? Decals? Sticker tape? It's going to be all white so please post your thoughts. Thanks.
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Way to go Jay!!! That's the best look I've had so far. Now that we kind of know what we're dealing with. Everyone, please post what you would do to help in (very quickly) telling top from bottom.
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Well, I don't know what I'm going to do, in the manual say not to use any type of lacquer thinner, lacquer paint or lacquer primer, it can destroy the airframe! Maybe I will go with decals or sticker tape, but, I have to make-up my mind soon, my club is going to have a airshow on june 2nd and I'm running late, I have more things to do though.
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It sounds like you're going to have yours in the air long before we even see ours, so please post pic's of what you do.
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Fellas, this is Rick with ACM (BAGOSTIX) in regards to the difference between the Diamond Dust and whiplash, I could go on for days, I can assure you that once you've flown the whiplash, the Diamond Dust would be hard pressed to meet the performance of the Whiplash, the airfoil allows for SLOW and HIGH SPEED runs, its a bit heavier than the dust but that has its advantages. The DD is a hard act to follow, but I think that the whiplash will be the new act to follow very soon.. I hate the idea of an unhappy customer, but as Roger said, we were completely taken by surprise on the demand for the whiplash, and even though we were prepared for substantial demand, it was no where near enough to handle what we actually received in orders , so we offer our sincere apologies for the delays, but take heart, production is in full swing and we are doing our best to increase production by 100% within the next 2 weeks,.. so please, be a little more patient, we do appreciate all of you that have been riding with us and bareing with the delay. thanks Rick B.
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What's your e-mail? Can't get the link to work to reply to the message you sent me. Don't get me wrong I wasn't complaining or anything I just posted that I spoke with you, placed an order and was told there would be a 4 week wait. At this point all I can say is thanks, your offer is more than fair and will take you up on it, just post your e-mail or I can call tomorrow.
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Rick, it sounds like you are getting me fixed up. Thanks for jumping in and getting things going. I sent you a PM with info on the person who was short a manual with their plane, just in case they haven't gotten one yet.

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